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Big Dummy and Not Worty…Mr. Oneness is at it again. I will copy and paste.Catholic Cardinal Newman’s Confession
John Henry Newman C.O. (21 February 1801 -11 August 1890[2][3]), also referred to as Cardinal Newman and Blessed John Henry Newman, was an important figure in the religious history of England in the 19th century. He was known nationally by the mid-1830s.[4]
Newman’s beatification was officially proclaimed by Pope Benedict XVI on 19 September 2010 during his visit to the United Kingdom.[1] His canonisation is dependent on the documentation of additional miracles.
(The following is an excerpt from a book by Harry A. Peyton
"Catholic Cardinal Newman confessed that God’s Modalist Monarchian Churches were in the vast majority for the first 400 years. The well known Catholic professor John Henry Cardinal Newman, in his work entitled Essays And Sketches, presented Catholicism as the original Church. But even he had to admit that the doctrines of the Trinity, apostolic succession, the Eucharist, and the Mass are not found in the Bible. Even though he understood these facts, he still believed they were true. He defends them not from a Biblical point of view, but from the traditions of the early Catholic Fathers. He most definitely believed that the Bible must be interpreted by their writings, and only by their writings. He admonished all Protestants to accept by faith these Catholic doctrines, since they have accepted the Catholic doctrine of the Trinity by faith without any real scriptural proof. In volume one, he made the following statements:
"Newman asked Protestants, “Where was your Church before Luther?” The obvious and historical answer is they were in the Roman Catholic Church. He then proceeded by saying, “Take a large view of the faith of Christians during the centuries before Constantine established their [meaning the Roman Catholic] religion. Is there any family likeness in it to Protestantism?” [137] The obvious answer is no. He then went on to prove that historically, by comparing the teachings of the Reformers with that of the Catholic Ante Nicene Fathers.
"After that, Father Newman made a very shocking confession. Let’s hear this Priest’s confession and see if He makes a good and true confession before we grant him absolution. He said, “all parties must confess, the Catholic doctrine of the Trinity is not brought out in form upon the surface of Scriptures.”
“As I have said more than once, to allege, that all points that are beyond clear Scripture proof are mere peculiarities of each sect [meaning different religious systems]; so that if all Protestants were to agree to put out of sight their respective peculiarities [meaning unscriptural doctrines], they would then have a Creed set forth distinctly, clearly, and adequately, in Scripture; for take that single instance, which I referred to in a former Lecture, the doctrine of the Holy Trinity. Is this to be considered as a mere peculiarity or no? Apparently a peculiarity [for] it is not brought out in form in Scripture. First, the word Trinity is not in Scripture. Next I ask how many of the verses of the Athanasian Creed are distinctly set down in Scripture?" [138] The answer to Newman’s question is very few.
"Newman continued his confession and reproach of Protestants by saying, “He who admits the doctrine of the Holy Trinity, in spite of felling its difficulties, whether in itself or in its proof ‑ who submits to the indirectness [meaning lack] of the Scripture evidence as regards that particular doctrine ‑ has a right to be told those other doctrines, such as the apostolic succession.” [139]
"Newman proceeded with his confession and reproach to the fallen away daughters of Catholicism by saying, “not Scripture, but history [meaning the tradition of the Ante Nicene Priests] is our informant in Christian doctrine….” All Protestants “who consider the Bible as the one standard of faith,” meaning those who say they base their beliefs on the Bible and not tradition, “let no one take refuge and comfort in the idea that he will be what is commonly called an orthodox Protestant…, [if] he will admit the doctrine of the Trinity, but not that of the Apostolic Succession…; [for] this is an impossible position: it is shutting one eye, and looking with the other, shut both or open both.” [140]
"What confessor Newman is saying is this, since Protestants have accepted and believed the Catholic version of the Babylonian Trinity by faith without any real scriptural proof, they then have earn for themselves the right to accept and believe by faith all other Catholic doctrines which are also not directly taught in the Bible, as he openly admitted on pages 122, 206, 207 and 211. No matter what people may or may not say about Cardinal Newman, I do believe he made a good and true confession, for which God’s people everywhere do thank him, and grant unto him absolution. Now, with the above truths in mind, let’s proceed with the history of God’s True Church.
"Newman made his greatest and boldest confession when he was scolding the Protestants about Luther’s protest. He referred them to the protest that was made by the one God Jesus’ Name Apostolic Christians, who believed all the godhead, i.e. the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, dwelt totally in one person, the Lord Jesus Christ. Newman said, "Praxeas, Noetus, and Sabellius, in the third century protested against the Catholic or Athanasian doctrine of the Holy Trinity… Noetus was in Asia Minor, Praxeas taught in Rome, Sabellius in Africa. Nay we read…their doctrine prevailed among the common people, then and at an earlier date, to a very great extent, and the true faith [Catholicism] was hardly preached in the churches.”
John Henry Newman C.O. (21 February 1801 -11 August 1890[2][3]), also referred to as Cardinal Newman and Blessed John Henry Newman, was an important figure in the religious history of England in the 19th century. He was known nationally by the mid-1830s.[4]
Newman’s beatification was officially proclaimed by Pope Benedict XVI on 19 September 2010 during his visit to the United Kingdom.[1] His canonisation is dependent on the documentation of additional miracles.
(The following is an excerpt from a book by Harry A. Peyton
"Catholic Cardinal Newman confessed that God’s Modalist Monarchian Churches were in the vast majority for the first 400 years. The well known Catholic professor John Henry Cardinal Newman, in his work entitled Essays And Sketches, presented Catholicism as the original Church. But even he had to admit that the doctrines of the Trinity, apostolic succession, the Eucharist, and the Mass are not found in the Bible. Even though he understood these facts, he still believed they were true. He defends them not from a Biblical point of view, but from the traditions of the early Catholic Fathers. He most definitely believed that the Bible must be interpreted by their writings, and only by their writings. He admonished all Protestants to accept by faith these Catholic doctrines, since they have accepted the Catholic doctrine of the Trinity by faith without any real scriptural proof. In volume one, he made the following statements:
"Newman asked Protestants, “Where was your Church before Luther?” The obvious and historical answer is they were in the Roman Catholic Church. He then proceeded by saying, “Take a large view of the faith of Christians during the centuries before Constantine established their [meaning the Roman Catholic] religion. Is there any family likeness in it to Protestantism?” [137] The obvious answer is no. He then went on to prove that historically, by comparing the teachings of the Reformers with that of the Catholic Ante Nicene Fathers.
"After that, Father Newman made a very shocking confession. Let’s hear this Priest’s confession and see if He makes a good and true confession before we grant him absolution. He said, “all parties must confess, the Catholic doctrine of the Trinity is not brought out in form upon the surface of Scriptures.”
“As I have said more than once, to allege, that all points that are beyond clear Scripture proof are mere peculiarities of each sect [meaning different religious systems]; so that if all Protestants were to agree to put out of sight their respective peculiarities [meaning unscriptural doctrines], they would then have a Creed set forth distinctly, clearly, and adequately, in Scripture; for take that single instance, which I referred to in a former Lecture, the doctrine of the Holy Trinity. Is this to be considered as a mere peculiarity or no? Apparently a peculiarity [for] it is not brought out in form in Scripture. First, the word Trinity is not in Scripture. Next I ask how many of the verses of the Athanasian Creed are distinctly set down in Scripture?" [138] The answer to Newman’s question is very few.
"Newman continued his confession and reproach of Protestants by saying, “He who admits the doctrine of the Holy Trinity, in spite of felling its difficulties, whether in itself or in its proof ‑ who submits to the indirectness [meaning lack] of the Scripture evidence as regards that particular doctrine ‑ has a right to be told those other doctrines, such as the apostolic succession.” [139]
"Newman proceeded with his confession and reproach to the fallen away daughters of Catholicism by saying, “not Scripture, but history [meaning the tradition of the Ante Nicene Priests] is our informant in Christian doctrine….” All Protestants “who consider the Bible as the one standard of faith,” meaning those who say they base their beliefs on the Bible and not tradition, “let no one take refuge and comfort in the idea that he will be what is commonly called an orthodox Protestant…, [if] he will admit the doctrine of the Trinity, but not that of the Apostolic Succession…; [for] this is an impossible position: it is shutting one eye, and looking with the other, shut both or open both.” [140]
"What confessor Newman is saying is this, since Protestants have accepted and believed the Catholic version of the Babylonian Trinity by faith without any real scriptural proof, they then have earn for themselves the right to accept and believe by faith all other Catholic doctrines which are also not directly taught in the Bible, as he openly admitted on pages 122, 206, 207 and 211. No matter what people may or may not say about Cardinal Newman, I do believe he made a good and true confession, for which God’s people everywhere do thank him, and grant unto him absolution. Now, with the above truths in mind, let’s proceed with the history of God’s True Church.
"Newman made his greatest and boldest confession when he was scolding the Protestants about Luther’s protest. He referred them to the protest that was made by the one God Jesus’ Name Apostolic Christians, who believed all the godhead, i.e. the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, dwelt totally in one person, the Lord Jesus Christ. Newman said, "Praxeas, Noetus, and Sabellius, in the third century protested against the Catholic or Athanasian doctrine of the Holy Trinity… Noetus was in Asia Minor, Praxeas taught in Rome, Sabellius in Africa. Nay we read…their doctrine prevailed among the common people, then and at an earlier date, to a very great extent, and the true faith [Catholicism] was hardly preached in the churches.”