Did Jesus Really Son of God/God or The Prophet

[FaithofAbraham]

Wow I have am overwhelmed with the many ways you are wrong. First where did you get the idea that the bible was written by one man? It is divinely inspired by the one true God.

The Bible was written by many men, you didn’t read me correctly.

Second how can you possibly lay the blame for the violent teachings of Islam on some failing of the Catholic Church? It is the violent contained in the Quran and forced upon the world by Mohamed in the name of a “religion” created by a mad man that we fight. The 9/11 terrorists did not follow some form of Christianity and after their murder of thousands of Americans they were cheered by muslim “religious” leaders in the middle east.

God has a way of paying back evil for evil. If Christians had behaved themselves there may never have been any Muslims. If Jews had behaved themselves there may never have been any Christians. That’s how it works.

The people who follow islam can live without any fear of Christian aggression if they stop attacking our people. We would love to be at peace and not need to fight wars but we are forced to defend ourselves against criminals and bullies who will only stop when everyone is under their control.

Nonsense. American Christians trained and supported bin Laden in Afghanistan to help weaken the Soviets. Now they cry that their Frankenstein Monster turned on them. Same thing with supporting Saddam against Iran.

You reap what you sow.

Matthew 26:52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

 

[masscup]

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Islam and Christianity have the same God, so we are brothers. We just see him differently.

No, we are not brothers. Nor will we ever be brothers until you worship the Christ.

Hi There,

The difference between Islam and Christianity is Jesus PBUH exsistance.

No, this is one of MANY differences.

Wheather he is The Prophet or Son Of God.

Son of GOD

I am tired of proving you guyz and know i am fade up.This is my last post about this title.I have did my correction infront of Allah/God.May Allah/God shows us the right path.End with Quran Surah/Chapter

Since you are so “fade up”, why don’t you leave this post and leave this site? I’ve read many of your posts and all you are is a troll-baiter. You don’t want to discuss or listen, you want to ask a question or make a statement, receive a response, then tell all the responders that they are wrong.

So don’t go away mad, just go away.

 

[AgnosTheist]

God has a way of paying back evil for evil. If Christians had behaved themselves there may never have been any Muslims. If Jews had behaved themselves there may never have been any Christians. That’s how it works.

Mohammad’s violence was mainly due to the polytheists in Mecca. Very little would have changed even if jews & christians stayed away from the feud.

 

[impalass]

The Muslim faith cannot comprehend the paradox of the Cross. The Muslim cannot understand any attribute of God except his power and holiness. They cannot understand His humanity as it was expressed in the incarnation to reconcile sinful man and holy God. They cannot understand the cross because they do not understand the paradox of suffering.

Jesus said, “I have the power to put down my life and take it up again”. He said, “He who wishes to be my servant must take up his cross and follow me.”

When the Prince of the Power of the Air murdered the body of Christ on the cross, he paradoxically defeated himself, as Christ became our atonement for sin.

The Muslim faith cannot be reconciled with Christianity because it cannot grasp God as a baby, as a man, and as the way to heaven being the way of the cross. It cannot grasp “he who shall seek to be first shall be last, and he who is last shall be first.”

The Muslim martyr is a slave. The Christian martyr is a Son.

You only believe this baloney because your parents indoctrinated you by baptism when you were 4 months old. You were brain cleansed by your parents into only believing this ****, Growing up thats all you knew. Kind of narrow minded ignorance. Bill Maher and George Carlin are right. Check them out on youtube.

 

[masscup]

Bill Maher and George Carlin are right. Check them out on youtube.

Yes, these are two great bastions of our society. Why don’t we ask them to be our “leaders”. After all there opinion means more why? Oh, it’s not because they are educated or spiritual, it’s because they are comedians and have a venue to express their beliefs. Ok then, let’s all listen to them.

 

[living_water]

You only believe this baloney because your parents indoctrinated you by baptism when you were 4 months old. You were brain cleansed by your parents into only believing this ****, Growing up thats all you knew. Kind of narrow minded ignorance. Bill Maher and George Carlin are right. Check them out on youtube.

HA HA HA HA

I was raised Sufi.

 

[FaithofAbraham]

Mohammad’s violence was mainly due to the polytheists in Mecca. Very little would have changed even if jews & christians stayed away from the feud.

I was referring to Jewish rejection of Jesus – if they accepted him he would just be part of Judaism, no Christianity required. And later, Christians abusing the name of Jesus to build their worldly kingdoms.

 

[rush176]

The Bible was written by many men, you didn’t read me correctly.

God has a way of paying back evil for evil. If Christians had behaved themselves there may never have been any Muslims. If Jews had behaved themselves there may never have been any Christians. That’s how it works.

God is all good and therefore it is impossible for him to do anything evil even in repayment for evil. Has mankind made mistakes - of course thats why it is called sin. To say that Christian actions caused Muslims is to say that Islam was a creation of man not God.

Nonsense. American Christians trained and supported bin Laden in Afghanistan to help weaken the Soviets. Now they cry that their Frankenstein Monster turned on them. Same thing with supporting Saddam against Iran.

Bin Laden and Saddam where evil long before they ever had contact with Americans. They were a creation of an belief system started by Mohamed that has naturally manifested itself in the evil actions of suicide bombers and terrorists.

You reap what you sow.

And so shall you

Matthew 26:52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

 

[AgnosTheist]

I was referring to Jewish rejection of Jesus – if they accepted him he would just be part of Judaism, no Christianity required. And later, Christians abusing the name of Jesus to build their worldly kingdoms.

I dont think such alterations of the past is enough to stop the emergence of muslims. Islam was built largely on top of Judaism. Christianity’s only main role is that it was a christian who gave Mohammad the idea that his wierd experiences were similar to the prophets of the old testament. A jew can make that error even if there were no christians around.

 

[impalass]

HA HA HA HA

I was raised Sufi.

SAME DIFFERENCE! unbelievable!.....I love it.

 

[FaithofAbraham]

God is all good and therefore it is impossible for him to do anything evil even in repayment for evil. Has mankind made mistakes - of course thats why it is called sin. To say that Christian actions caused Muslims is to say that Islam was a creation of man not God.

Sure He does. God sent Muslims because Christians were misbehaving.

Ezekiel 6:9 And they that escape of you shall remember me among the nations whither they shall be carried captives, because I am broken with their whorish heart, which hath departed from me, and with their eyes, which go a whoring after their idols: and they shall lothe themselves for the evils which they have committed in all their abominations.

Ezekiel 6:10 And they shall know that I am the LORD, and that I have not said in vain that I would do this evil unto them.

Bin Laden and Saddam where evil long before they ever had contact with Americans. They were a creation of an belief system started by Mohamed that has naturally manifested itself in the evil actions of suicide bombers and terrorists.

But the problem is Christians didn’t mind building them up and using them to do their dirty work against Soviets and Iranians. So now USA is at war with Afghanistan and Iraq, self-created monsters. Connect the dots.

 

[AgnosTheist]

Sure He does. God sent Muslims because Christians were misbehaving.

Do you think God would send a bigger and more dangerous religious group because muslims are misbehaving?

What is your religious affiliation, BTW?

 

[rush176]

Sure He does. God sent Muslims because Christians were misbehaving.

So are you saying God “created” a greater evil (Muslims) to fix an evil(Christians)? If that were so why wouldn’t he just turn the earth over to the direct control of Satan and cut out the middle man (Mohamed)?

 

[FaithofAbraham]

Do you think God would send a bigger and more dangerous religious group because muslims are misbehaving?

What is your religious affiliation, BTW?

Satanists, Pagans, Atheists, etc. all together against Abrahamic believers, probably.

I’m no religion, they all have too much baggage.

 

[FaithofAbraham]

So are you saying God “created” a greater evil (Muslims) to fix an evil(Christians)? If that were so why wouldn’t he just turn the earth over to the direct control of Satan and cut out the middle man (Mohamed)?

Ishmael had to have his great nation of God too, for one reason. But the covenant still remains with Isaac and Jesus.

Genesis 17:20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.

Genesis 17:21 But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.

 

[hamba2han]

… Jesus said, “I have the power to put down my life and take it up again”. He said, “He who wishes to be my servant must take up his cross and follow me…”

I now believe that the “cross” that Jesus (pbuh) meant in this verse probably looked like the following ancient crossbow:



However, if there is evidence which points to the disciples started to carry crucifixes after the alleged crucifixion of Jesus (pbuh), then I would be interested to see this evidence.

 

[living_water]

You have just thrown a great deal of ancient scholarship into the garbage by twisting the cross into a weapon. No, I don’t think you would be interested in the Roman method of crucifixion or in the meaning of the word “metaphor”.

Why are you posting on here, anyway? Isn’t there some 17-year old girl in Iraq that you need to stone to death?

 

[hamba2han]

I have devoted a whole thread to the subject of Prophet Jesus (pbuh) calling his followers to ‘Jihad’.

 

[mchale]

Lets see, John 1 claims that the Word was both with God and was God. Later it is made clear that Jesus is the Word. So that would show that Jesus is God.

Also, Matthew 16, when Jesus asks the Apostles who do they think he is and Peter answers, “You are the Christ, the son of the living God”. Far from rebuking him, Jesus praises him and tells him that his Father in heaven (implicitly God the Father) revealed this information to him.

There are other places in the New Testament where Jesus is specifically equated with God or is stated to be God’s son. How much scriptural evidence do you really need?

–
Bill

 

[rush176]

Ishmael had to have his great nation of God too, for one reason. But the covenant still remains with Isaac and Jesus.

Genesis 17:20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.

Genesis 17:21 But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.

How does any of that answer my question?
" So are you saying God “created” a greater evil (Muslims) to fix an evil(Christians)? If that were so why wouldn’t he just turn the earth over to the direct control of Satan and cut out the middle man (Mohamed)?