I was raised presbyterian, and even as a child having a female minister made me very uncomfortable. I knew in my heart it was wrong, and she just couldn’t lead the congregation the same way a man could.
I don’t understand that at all. I remember when CofE started ordaining women, and they work about the same. I’ve been to communion services led by male deacons and laywomen, and they work about the same, too. I’ve been to protestant groups led by women and they’re perfectly able. What you’re describing is at odds with my experience and makes no sense to my reasoning. The only reason that I know against ordaining women to the priesthood is that the Church wasn’t authorized to confer that sacrament on women. That’s what the Church teaches, and because it’s sufficient, that’s the end of the matter. But I really don’t understand the notion that if the Church
was authorized to do so, women would be in some way unable to function effectively.
SunnaB16:
So women make up 80% of lay ministers!
Good riddance if a lot of them didn`t turn up. There are too many EMHCs, anyway. Why do so many people think they have the right to put their maulers all over the Blessed Sacrament?
I take it that your “good riddance” extends to women involved in other liturgical ministries (sacristans, lectors, musicians and choir, caring for the linens, greeters, etc.), catechetical ministry (DREs, classroom teachers, RCIA, sacramental preparation), leadership (Parish Council, etc.), fundraising, etc., etc. Without women, the Church just wouldn’t function.
I take it that his “them” means the de facto protestants who organized the “protest.” Although that might encompass some women (as it also includes some men), it didn’t appear aimed at women generally, and that his “good riddance” extends accordingly. As we saw this Sunday, it would seem, most of the women involved in the ministries you describe are unimpressed with the protesting dissenters.
I don’t agree that there are too many EMHC’s.
That is a question that must necessarily be answered parish by parish, according to the metrics supplied in the GIRM,
Ecclesiae de Mysterio and
Redemptionis Sacramentum. How many EMHCs does your parish use? For a congregation of approximately how many? How long does communion take? Is the number of EMHCs conditional on the size of the congregation, or is it fair to say that a set number is habitually used? Those are the questions you would need to answer to determine if a given parish is overusing EMHCs, but anecdotally, for many parishes, the answer seems to be “yes.”
wow…just wow…send all those women our way. We’re not afraid of ovaries in the pulpit.
Me either. But that’s beside the point, unless you propose to crown yourself and your own proclivities as Pope.
Didn’t St. Paul state women are not supposed to teach the congregation? Oh…wait does that count anymore???
You tell me. That passage (1 Tim 2:11-12) also appears on its face to require that women “learn quietly with all submissiveness.” If you take the one at face value, you’ve got to take both. Do you? Or might that passage have more finesse than you’re attributing to it?
