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There must be some discretion on the part of the bishop; my diocese has deaf and blind priests, and one who is missing a leg. So missing some parts is a bigger deal than missing other parts. And if some parts can be gone, and if maleness is in the genes rather than in the jeans, I still wonder about the castratus issue.
Maybe something happened to them after they were ordained, and the Bishop decided it was okay to keep them around. In certain situations, they are exceptions to the rule. Just remember though, that some rules are not allowed to have exceptions so don’t take what I said too far.
 
How in the world do they perform their duties? I see my priests climbing around on the roof of the Church to change the seasonal decorations, etc., especially around Christmas time - and how does the guy with only one leg chase after people who try to steal the Eucharist?
That’s what the laity are for! In my neighborhood we don’t have people who try to steal the Eucharist, and although I suppose the police would respond, the priest in question is a good runner!
 
Maybe something happened to them after they were ordained, and the Bishop decided it was okay to keep them around. In certain situations, they are exceptions to the rule. Just remember though, that some rules are not allowed to have exceptions so don’t take what I said too far.
No – these cases involved disability before ordination; in fact before seminary. the bishop is a man of vision, who recognizes that a deaf man with a vocation can be an invaluable asset in our deaf parish.
 
This thread sure is a bit odd - am I in the Spirituality forum? :confused:

To the OP - You are making a fair bit of accusations which I have not seen evidence for (the closed-mindedness on LT, etc.) and when posters have asked you for links to back up some of your claims, you respond with a cry of intolerance and some random sprinkling of ad hominems. I haven’t seen you attacked here as you claim either. I don’t get it.

And drpmjhess, you sure are jumping around a lot. From the “if the church fathers were women” and contraception to the inquisition to holy orders and castrati? :confused: Seems like you are just trying to instigate.

At any rate, none of these provocations and instigations seem spiritual so color me confused about this whole thread.
 
Hi SpiritMeadow 🙂

I’m a Catholic too. I’d say I was the best I can be so wouldn’t wish to label myself as progressive, blah, blah, blah, etc.

I turned my PM off long ago after thinking to myself if people can’t publically say what they have to me then why hide behind a door. Most likely those people wouldn’t then acknowledge me in public anyway which would be very sad in deed.

I did find some information about liberation theology. Here is a quote that I do agree with:
  • The magisterium of the church in Latin America has expressed itself primarily through the documents of two conferences. The second general conference of the episcopate of Latin America, held at Medellin, Colombia, in 1968, spoke of the church “listening to the cry of the poor and becoming the interpreter of their anguish”; this was the first flowering of the theme of liberation, which began to be worked out systematically only after Medellin. The third general conference, held at Puebla, Mexico, in 1979, shows the theme of liberation running right through its final document. The liberation dimension is seen a an “integral put” (§§355, 1254, 1283) of the mission of the church, “indispensable” (§§562, 1270), “essential” (§1302). A large put of the document (§§470-506) is devoted to evangelization, liberation, and human promotion, and a whole chapter (§§1134-56) to the “preferential option for the poor,” a central axis of liberation theology.
The general tenor of the pronouncements of the magisterium, whether papal or coming from the Synod of Bishops, has been to recognize the positive aspects of liberation theology, especially with reference to the poor and the need for their liberation, as forming put of the universal heritage of Christian commitment to history. Criticisms of certain tendencies within liberation theology, which have to be taken into account, do not negate the vigorous and healthy nucleus of this form of Christian thinking, which has done so much to bring the message of the historical Jesus to the world of today.* (A Concise History of Liberation Theology
By Leonardo and Clodovis Boff. From the book Introducing Liberation Theology published by Orbis Books.)
landreform.org/boff2.htm
landreform.org/boff2.htm

I’ve worked for many years with the Sisters of Charity and other Catholic organizations. Most of my time as a volunteer was spent with the precious, poor children of South America. 🙂
The devil is always in the details. He comes at us with concepts and ideas that are reasonable in appearance and intrinsically fair-minded. But, since he is a liar and the father of lies, further study of the content and origen of these philosphies reveals the fatal flaw(s). The Latin American Church embraced some of these ideas, and in their implementation, discovered that they had an alliance wih the godless. This is the danger when the world offers ideas that are substantially similar to those of Christ, but motivated by forces of this world. This world stands in direct opposition to Christ, no matter how similar its motives may appear.

We are called by Christ to have great compassion for the poor. However, the inspiration for and motivation to action on their behalf must come solely from God in Christ. All else is vanity.

Christ’s peace be always with you.
 
The devil is always in the details. He comes at us with concepts and ideas that are reasonable in appearance and intrinsically fair-minded. But, since he is a liar and the father of lies, further study of the content and origen of these philosphies reveals the fatal flaw(s). The Latin American Church embraced some of these ideas, and in their implementation, discovered that they had an alliance wih the godless. This is the danger when the world offers ideas that are substantially similar to those of Christ, but motivated by forces of this world. This world stands in direct opposition to Christ, no matter how similar its motives may appear.

We are called by Christ to have great compassion for the poor. However, the inspiration for and motivation to action on their behalf must come solely from God in Christ. All else is vanity.

Christ’s peace be always with you.
po18guy, you obviously need to read my bio "Love Jesus! Yes, I do. As I’ve also mentioned I’ve worked with the poor from South America. You state, “This world stands in direct opposition to Christ, no matter how similar its motives may appear.” I have to disagree with your comment on the grounds that I am a Catholic who is CHRISTIAN and there are millions of us.😃
 
po18guy, you obviously need to read my bio "Love Jesus! Yes, I do. As I’ve also mentioned I’ve worked with the poor from South America. You state, “This world stands in direct opposition to Christ, no matter how similar its motives may appear.” I have to disagree with your comment on the grounds that I am a Catholic who is CHRISTIAN and there are millions of us.😃
How does the fact that you are a Catholic who loves Christ contradict (or even relate to) the idea that the world (meaning the materialist) hates Christ? :confused:

If you are a Catholic who loves Christ, then guess what - you are not of the world, any more. To be of Christ is to reject the world.
 
How does the fact that you are a Catholic who loves Christ contradict (or even relate to) the idea that the world (meaning the materialist) hates Christ? :confused:

If you are a Catholic who loves Christ, then guess what - you are not of the world, any more. To be of Christ is to reject the world.
jmcrae, in my opinion you wish your desire of silly nonsense to impose on my ability to live in the world. 🙂 I will not retract my statement to po18guy. I am also an inhabitant of planet Earth which revolves around the Sun.🙂 Nor did Christ reject living in the world. Remember Christ lived on planet Earth. 😉
 
jmcrae, in my opinion you wish your desire of silly nonsense to impose on my ability to live in the world. 🙂 I will not retract my statement to po18guy. I am also an inhabitant of planet Earth which revolves around the Sun.🙂 Nor did Christ reject living in the world. Remember Christ lived on planet Earth. 😉
Be in the world, but not of the world. There is MAJOR difference.
 
jmcrae, in my opinion you wish your desire of silly nonsense to impose on my ability to live in the world. 🙂 I will not retract my statement to po18guy. I am also an inhabitant of planet Earth which revolves around the Sun.🙂 Nor did Christ reject living in the world. Remember Christ lived on planet Earth. 😉
Yes, but He never sinned, erred, or gained wealth for its own sake.
 
Hi SemperFidelis, perhaps you need to define what the word world means to you. 🙂 This would be helpful.
Obviously you’ve never heard that quote before. Search for it online, I’m sure you’ll come up with something.
 
“The world” is the Bible’s term for sinfulness, materialism, and error.
Really? I’m looking at my Catholic Encyclopedia which is located at the back of my Holy Bible and there isn’t the word world found within it.

As far as my world goes there isn’t any sinfulness, materialism, or error:)
 
Really? I’m looking at my Catholic Encyclopedia which is located at the back of my Holy Bible and there isn’t the word world found within it.

As far as my world goes there isn’t any sinfulness, materialism, or error:)
As far as your world, maybe not. But that doesn’t speak for the rest of the world.
 
Really? I’m looking at my Catholic Encyclopedia which is located at the back of my Holy Bible and there isn’t the word world found within it.

As far as my world goes there isn’t any sinfulness, materialism, or error:)
Since you seem to be so persistant on getting a definition of “world” used in my quote, (can’t imagine why, as it’s pretty simple, I just think you want to nag us) I am going to advise you to check out Pope John Paul II’s book: A Light For The World since you have a quote from him attached to your profile. I’m pretty sure you could figure it out just by reading the title.
 
Really? I’m looking at my Catholic Encyclopedia which is located at the back of my Holy Bible and there isn’t the word world found within it.

As far as my world goes there isn’t any sinfulness, materialism, or error:)
Romans 12:2
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

1 Corinthians 1:20
Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1 Corinthians 2:5-7

That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:

But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
 
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