Every business has the right to hire people who uphold what they believe the moral character of their institution is. In fact, I would say it’s scandalous for a person to employ someone whose very presence might convince other people to sin and be a threat against the public good. Consider for example a pedophile, who had never touched a child, but think his urges are fine and healthy, and tells his customers when they ask that he’s not a pedophile for “health reasons.” This would certainly be scandalous, and a Catholic employer, just like he has the right to not give people birth control to protect the common good has the right to not feed the public, children, or other workers false teachings on sexuality through the behavior or beliefs of one of his workers.
Then exactly where do they live and where do they work? Do we quarantine them in their own community? They have the right to purchase housing anywhere they darn please. And if the organization is secular in nature then anyone should have equal opportunity to work there.
Oh are you saying the church will not stop a homosexual from adopting Now? Or is it just something to consider? Please be honest it means no way no how.
Wait I thought you said the church would was not calling for there institutionalization? Now you seem to agree with me and say they are. Well Im glad you changed you mind.
Its only unjust to kill them and do physicla violence. But you can deprive them of employment housing, and logically I all “human rights”. Gee if I imit them all I guess the problem will quickly solve itsself. They end up forgotten and dead. I Guess you can say now say with a clear conscience “We did not kill him we just limited his rights justly, think of the damage he could have done, we were protecting ourselves form him”
…but what are you affraid of. (Gosh Im far right and far left in so many things hehehehehehe)I agree.
Okay. I see you plan to twist everything I say and quote to fit your purpose. And you continue to jerk the point around this way and that. What do you want to debate here? Employment and housing or adoption? They are separate issues. Let’s stick to one on this thread. If you want to talk about adoption, we can meet in another thread.
The quote does not say or mean that and you know it. Now who is being dishonest.
As I said before, this country was founded on the principle that freedom of religion is every man’s right and that one should be free from persecution to worship according to his beliefs. Belief in God, regardless of the denomination, is considered a good. It is upheld as an inherent right for all and is (up until modernity) encouraged as beneficial for the individual and society. The early settlers who escaped oppression and persecution understood that the freedom to practice one’s belief in God was necessary to advance the cause of a just civilization. Hence, this right has been protected for all. Homosexual behavior is NOT a “good” of society and has never been considered a benefit to society. In our current culture, with at least 35 years of gay activism behind us, one could argue that there is a wealth of evidence that proves exactly this.
Not exactly, but people do reserve the right to not sell them housing if they do not wish. I for one would not want my children being brought up in a neighborhood with an openly gay sexual couple, and that is a right. Keep in mind the right to association does not eclipse the right not to associate. If homosexuals are obstinant enough to not recognize the Natural Law, then it is for the good os society as a whole that they not be allowed to fully participate in it, just like criminals and the mentally ill.
Pedophilia and homosexuality are both objectively disordered. Just because one is more repulsive to liberals than the other does not change that.
What liberals define as human rights is not what the Church defines as human rights. Here the Church and world are definitvely at odds. Not all rights are immutable. As is the case with criminals, when you practice disorderly conduct, the common good is jeopardized, making it the states responsibility to limit your involvement in pulic life (thieves are a good example).Its only unjust to kill them and do physicla violence. But you can deprive them of employment housing, and logically I all “human rights”. Gee if I imit them all I guess the problem will quickly solve itsself. They end up forgotten and dead. I Guess you can say now say with a clear conscience “We did not kill him we just limited his rights justly, think of the damage he could have done, we were protecting ourselves form him”
Now I hate to say it, because now Im sort of seeing it, which sort of scares me
Repulsive to them for now. I suspect pediophiles will be the next minority group the left takes up for.
Thank God we do not have an overabundance of thinkers like this. You are saying that if my ssa became known a socalled Christian could forbid me from living somewhere. I think this would fall under the Church teaching on unjust discrimination. You don’t seem to get the point that if everyone put into practice your ideas homosexuals, even if they aren’t practicing, would end up homeless. This is ridiculous and I would vote against it. We are not to be treated as second class citizens based on sexual orientation.
No one is saying this! You don’t seem to recognize that there is a difference between people with SSA and homosexuals. You can’t deny the presence of the disorder, but you can argue against the decision to embrace it as a good thing and live gay lifestyle. Homosexuality is wrong and against the Natural Law. You don’t seem to get that that’s what the Church teaches. It’s doctrine.Thank God we do not have an overabundance of thinkers like this. You are saying that if my ssa became known a socalled Christian could forbid me from living somewhere. I think this would fall under the Church teaching on unjust discrimination. You don’t seem to get the point that if everyone put into practice your ideas homosexuals, even if they aren’t practicing, would end up homeless. This is ridiculous and I would vote against it. We are not to be treated as second class citizens based on sexual orientation.
Funny, I once heard the question posed to me “If every homosexual were suddenly green, what would I do?”
Stop, stop, stop taking my words out of context. I never made any of those claims. All I said is that they are comparable as sexual disorders. The Magisterium says the same thing.
You’ll never know the homosexual unless he chooses to out himself or someone outs him. Unless you have a sixth sense.
Homosexual acts are wrong not the orientation. We just don’t know what causes the orientation. I have read all the pschobabble that says distant father, overbearing mother and all that bull. None of it fit me. I grew up in a nice Catholic suburban family and no control over homosexual attraction. The only thing I knew is that I could control behavior.