Discussions with a Mormon

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why_me said:
How many catholics know christian history? How many catholics have the intelligence to read a good history book of christianity? I am sure many but many also don’t.
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There hasn’t been a study on it. However, the Majority of Catholics have the basic knowledge of history.
Mormonism makes sense. It puts many things into a good box. It is difficult to disbelieve it. The lds church has many answers that make complete sense. And the truth claims can make sense too. When someone looses faith in the lds church it is difficult to believe in another church. There can be a feeling of incompleteness to that other faith. Thus, atheism can be the result. Or many former mormons head over to the half-way house as found in the Unitarian Universalist church.
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Mormonism is a man-made religion by Joseph Smith. His doctrine about God keep changing. This is contrary to what we know about the nature of God. He is immutable.
I posted the website to the Encylopedia of Mormonism. Their doctrine of the preexistence makes sense, complete with bible references. Hence the problem.
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Mormonism doesn’t sense. It claims that God had sex with Mary which denies the virginity of Mary. It’s more like an insult to both God and Mary to me. God comes from another planet. Another lie. It claim that God was once a man. Adam.

Well if you look in Judaism, which Christianity stem from. Those beliefs are new to any Orthodox Jew or orthodox understanding of Christian.

Mormonism is paganism and distort the True itself. By its claim, God is changing. Paul did say, Jesus the same, today, yesterday, and forever. Therefore, don’t carry any strange doctrine. Orthodox Christianity makes more sense than the paganistic belief of Mormonism.
 
Marc1152 said:
It is so clearly an outgrowth of 19th pop culture, the theology and historical claims is so “made up looking”, the motivations of it’s founder are so sepcious that reasonable people dont need much more to convince them to stay clear.
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The people who read it at the time did not feel that way at all. Now I know that it may seem…a nineteenth century concoction but it is much more than that. No one has explained its appearance in a satisfactory way as yet. And the JS story still stands close scrutiny. I don’t think that there is a book that has been so heavily criticized as the book of mormon, especially on the internet. But it still stands for what it is.

It is a mystery, for sure.
 
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Mormons are polytheistic in their explanations about the Godhead. They will actually explain themselves into a hole where they will conclude that there are three gods. I’ve seen this before, I am one of the favorite targets of mormon visitations, its an on-going thing. Additionally, mormons fit quite comfortably within the UFO cultic movement and the dark societies philosophies.
The encounter that Joseph Smith had with the “angel” Moroni reads like an “alien” visitation complete with sexual overtones and homosexual inuendos.
Don’t get me started…just don’t get me started.
 
why_me said:
The people who read it at the time did not feel that way at all. Now I know that it may seem…a nineteenth century concoction but it is much more than that. No one has explained its appearance in a satisfactory way as yet. And the JS story still stands close scrutiny. I don’t think that there is a book that has been so heavily criticized as the book of Mormon, especially on the Internet. But it still stands for what it is.

It is a mystery, for sure.
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Look …I appreciate your rather breathless enthusiasm. I assume you are a convert.
I was just pointing out that it isn’t hard at all to disbelieve Mormon claims. In fact, Mormonism falls well within what most folks would consider crackpot. It is the 19th century version of Scientology. Nether holds up under scrutiny very well dispute your own personal happiness with what you have accepted…

I hope one day you will give Christianity a try.
 
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