Yeah, I donāt even talk about him until after the second cup of coffeeā¦hahahahahaRainbow - you are so charitable - I find ex-husband to be one of the nicer things I still call him despite the level of forgiveness - but I think sometimes forgiveness is relative to the day and the mood.
Yeah I donāt think thatās possible at this point.
Plenty of stories to be had and loved here. More power to ya, girlfren. Iām learning and connecting with many of you, and Iām so happy to be able to share in a Catholic forum with so many of you who have been through similar things. Itās hard to find this type of conversation, and it makes for a safe and easy place to share and learn from marriage tragedy within the context of our mutual love for the Catholic Church. More power to you, girlfren.Well, it may have been a sacramental marriage and we didnāt work through it ā¦ yet. Who knows, Mitch Daniels took his wife back after she left, remarried civily and then returned. Not sure what the future holds, none of us are.
Excellent!
:hug1:Rainbow - you are so charitable - I find ex-husband to be one of the nicer things I still call him despite the level of forgiveness - but I think sometimes forgiveness is relative to the day and the mood.
Yes, I guess that gets us back to discernmentā¦
Yeah I donāt think thatās possible at this point.
I was unclear. The epic fail was that I spent ten years destroying myself and short changing my kids trying to do the impossible.
BWAH HA HA! Yes,it would be good to point that out. I bet it is common to many of us. Given the level of mental illness my ex-putative-husband suffers, calling him ex-husband actually dignifies him. It would be far more accurate to call him āthe evil man who deceived me into civil marriage for the purpose of narcissistic abuse and then lies to the tribunal in the hopes that he can still insist that I am his wife.āRainbow - you are so charitable - I find ex-husband to be one of the nicer things I still call him despite the level of forgiveness - but I think sometimes forgiveness is relative to the day and the mood.
Good morning Amy, I must say that I am not exactly āin loveā with her. But I do hope that I love herā¦ I am commanded to do that. But it doesnāt feel like a command anymore. I canāt imagine not loving her (definitely do not do it perfectly).
Bryanā¦I didnāt say for you to call her exwifeā¦I said lets make a deal and I call mine what I want and you call yours what you wantā¦surely didnāt mean to hurt feelings.
Can so relateā¦
[Ellipses represent cuts I made, but I think I preserved the message. The full text is at Fr. Jean Baptiste Saint-Jure & St. Claude de la Colombiere - Trustful Surrender to Divine Providence near the bottom in a section headed āObstinate Trustā]
Go back and look at my words again remembering a simple phrase - render unto Cesar.
With the truth being that God did not join together all legal marriagesā¦only someā¦
That is beautifulā¦reminds me in some ways of the Divine Mercy Prayerā¦
Yeah, but you couldnāt know it was impossible without trying. I hope you donāt beat yourself up-- you spent yourself in a worthy cause- total commitment to your vows. To know defeat is not a failure, not achieving the impossible is not the same as failure, certainly not epic. You can wish now you had done things differently, for example left earlier. But then you would be sitting here wondering what would have happened if youād stayed just a little longer and been beating yourself up for that.
I try to view the long, hard years of my failed marriage (which seems similiar to yours?) as fertilizer. I believe God uses all of our failings, our blindness, sufferings, and our sins very well. We just need to allow it Godās sunlight and plant His seeds. Otherwise it just sits there and ferments. My children are awesome and strong, and still very beautiful to me and to others. This is Godās beauty! Alleluia!! Alleluia!!