But you do quarrel with every other denomination. The Holy Spirit is not the author of confusion. Further, your church was fouded by a man in the 16th Century or later. Hence your denomination has no historical connection to Jesus Christ.
You totally missed the point. I was responding to what you said … and what you said is that the universal Church IS the body of ALL born again believers in Christ “whether Catholic,Orthodox Protestant …”
We have plenty proof right here that Catholics argue with other denominations.Just because you argue /defend /put forth your beliefs with those different doe not make one’s church -not one. By your OWN definition of church ,that is, physical succession (laying on of hands from Peter to now),Maybe you are right. But the Jews that crucified Jesus also claimed real physical succession to their Father Abraham… Our succession is a spiritual one ,going back to the Garden of Eden, the first faith promise,of a Savior-a much older ,perfect in the spirit, tadition.
Perhaps we are looking at the external qualities of “church” as in what she teaches.Yes ,“church” must be truthful in its doctrines but is that what we are all about ?.I thought it is a relationship ,made possible by the Blood of the lamb. A relationship with the Father Son and Holy Ghost ,forming His Body…For all that to be one must be born again ,your name be written in the book of life .Doctrinal issues are aside Either you are in His church or not, you are born again or not.The definition must be so that include all those,whether Protetsant or Catholic etc
But the Lord said that if we love Him, we will keep His commands. Just crying out, “Lord, Lord!” isn’t enough. (Right?) How, then, are we to know what it is that Jesus commands? For example, the Catholic Church says that it is against the command of Christ for a divorced person to remarry. Conversely, there are at least some Protestants who don’t have a problem with such remarriage. Obviously, both can’t be right. Who is right, and how do you know? Adulterers won’t inherit the Kingdom, after all; so who is right as to what constitutes adultery?
God preserved His Word, a subtle difference, IMO.
Well, considering this particular area of the forum is “Non-Catholic Religions…”
I can’t speak to the issue of the Holy Spirit and the CC. IMO, the church Jesus founded is far bigger than the CC and would include many of the members of the CC.
Good question for which I can only guess because it’s not really spelled out for us. I can say that IMO it most likely is NOT what you or I think it means.
Thank you for taking the time to share what you believe.
This is a non-catholic part of CAF.
Yes. And when you put it next to church -the catholic church, it should mean all those who have accepted His free gift, of His atoning death and resurrection.
I could not find Kataholes in Greek (niv/nasb),just ecclesia =church.
How is scripture not spelled out for you?
I am asking you what you think brother? What’s your answer? This is not an answer:Dok, do you agree with benedictus2 regarding the following:
The Scripture is NOT always spelled out for us. We don’t have all the answers. That’s fine with me.How is scripture not spelled out for you?
*I can say that IMO it most likely is NOT what you or I think it means. *
So, it doesn’t seem obvious to you that Jesus gave His apostles the authority to forgive sins or to not forgive sins?
The devil is the enemy and the father of lies. Jesus did say that He would led His church into all Truth. That does NOT mean the church always follows perfectly.