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What is CINO?The questions is faulted as it is too vague. Two problems:
- Many Catholics are CINO.
What is CINO?The questions is faulted as it is too vague. Two problems:
- Many Catholics are CINO.
Catholic In Name OnlyWhat is CINO?
Thanks. Sometimes I don’t understand all of the IM abbreviations. lolCatholic In Name Only![]()
I know a former commander of mine who is just CINO. He doesn’t practice his faith… He hates the Church with a zeal…The questions is faulted as it is too vague. Two problems:
Better to ask, “Does Catholicism have the same Gospel as (say) the Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod?”
- Many Catholics are CINO.
- Protestant theology is so wide, some have no Gospel, some insist Catholics have no Gospel, some insist only their group has the Gospel, and theology varies between individual Protestants.
Asolutely…but i do find it a little irritating when they declare us to be ‘unsaved’ ??? Is that not the ultimate in being judgemental !!! I am now in the habit of telling protestants that i am a born-again catholic…they are usually to polite to question me after this revelation.The implication that Protestants don’t believe in the same Gospel is in my opinion dangerous, for if they do not believe in the same Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ, than they are not Christians. Yet, the Holy See has decreed otherwise:
“For men who believe in Christ and have been truly baptized are in communion with the Catholic Church even though this communion is imperfect. The differences that exist in varying degrees between them and the Catholic Church-whether in doctrine and sometimes in discipline, or concerning the structure of the Church-do indeed create many obstacles, sometimes serious ones, to full ecclesiastical communion. The ecumenical movement is striving to overcome these obstacles. But even in spite of them it remains true that all who have been justified by faith in Baptism are members of Christ’s body,(21) and have a right to be called Christian, and so are correctly accepted as brothers by the children of the Catholic Church” From the Decree on Ecumenism: Unitatis Redintegratio
I will admit that there are some Fundamentalist churches who preach a different gospel like the oneness pentecostals (who believe in one Person of the Godhead changing modes in three titles - see modalism). There are other examples such as the Christadelphians etc. That being said, if Protestants are Baptised with the Trinitarian formula, and taught that the God-man Jesus Christ lived to show us the Way, died to purchase our Salvation, and Rose again for our justification, and that He is the only true Savior of the world, if they are taught that loving God above all else, and our neighbor as yourself “hang all the Law and the Prophets”, for goodness sake people…they are Christian!


I agree that it is uncharitable and arrogant for some Protestants to lump us with the ‘unsaved’, and it is a very judgemental attitude to fellow Christians. That’s a good way to handle it.Asolutely…but i do find it a little irritating when they declare us to be ‘unsaved’ ??? Is that not the ultimate in being judgemental !!! I am now in the habit of telling protestants that i am a born-again catholic…they are usually to polite to question me after this revelation.![]()
I noticed on your profile your claim to be Baptist. Are you crossing the Tiber to the Catholic Church?
There are a lot of people who do not believe in any Gospel , just because of too many gospels, just because of the labyrinths of denominations.
The Catholic Gospel is the Gospel for the Salvation of the whole Society, in all spheres of life.
The Catholic Gospel is not individualistic.
The Catholic Gospel brings the message of Hope and Good News for every body; for the blind, for the illiterate, it is also the Gospel for the people who are not the ‘’ theology specialists’’.
Therefore, I think it is not the same as the Protestant .
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“…he that does not eat My flesh and drink My blood shall have no life in him…”I agree that it is uncharitable and arrogant for some Protestants to lump us with the ‘unsaved’, and it is a very judgemental attitude to fellow Christians. That’s a good way to handle it.![]()
–Joseph SmithHow shall they know with out hear and how shall they hear with out someone telling them the Good news. You hvae indeed ask a great question. The answer a great question before i answer it i wish to explain that i am not speaking in the power of my flesh but in the very spirit of love that has been given by the Lord Christ…
You do make some good points in your articles. I voted yes, also. I have been in several Protestant churches that recited the same Apostles’ Creed. Also, I witnessed a Methodist baptism. The congregation was asked the same questions as Catholics are asked during renewal of baptismal promises on Easter.As you all can see, I voted yes.
Still, here is something worth thinking about.
Who REALLY Preaches “A Different Gospel”?
My Reformation Theory
For the Catholic, the Gospel or “Good News” comes from “Magisterial Teaching”, which is derived from Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture.
For the Protestant, the Gospel or “Good News” comes from the bible alone, “Sola Scriptura”.
In addition, the four canonical Gospels (Mathew, Mark, Luke and John) present to us our Lord’s life, works, teachings and resurrection… and although the written words of the gospels are the same, the interpretations are different, resulting in Christ’s teachings to be understood differently between Catholics and Protestants.
Let me give an example of “Magisterial Teaching”, which is derived from Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture VS. the bible alone, “Sola Scriptura”.
THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO JOHN on the EUCHARIST (JN 6)
“I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world.” The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?” Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.” -Jn 6:51-55, -this is not the language of symbolism. You can not lump allprottestants in the same group not all of them view the eucharist as a symbol. The Lutheran Church views the Eucharist as the body and blood of Christ Just as the Roman Catholic Church does. Lutheran are Catholic but not Roman Catholics. Roman Catholics do not like to be defined by others but they can define others as they see fit.
Magisterial Teaching tells us that this is The Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist; the body, blood, soul and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ, Truly present in the Blessed Sacrament. This faith comes from Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture.
Sacred Tradition gives us St. Ignatius of Antioch, a disciple of John the Apostle, who wrote (110 AD) concerning heretics: “They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the Flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, Flesh which suffered for our sins and which the Father, in His goodness, raised up again.”
When it comes to THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO JOHN on the EUCHARIST (JN 6)
A Protestant believes that Christ is only present symbolically in the Eucharist as he puts his faith in the bible alone “Sola Scriptura” where he gets his own understanding, he got his teaching from self-interpretation.
A Catholic believes in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist as he puts his faith in “Sacred Scripture” and “Sacred Tradition” where he gets St. Ignatius who got his teaching directly from the mouth of John himself.
Logically, we cannot be 100% certain of Christ’s teachings if we separate “Sacred Tradition” from “Sacred Scripture”. Sacred Tradition came before Sacred Scripture. Like a tree that bares good fruit. It is the tree that is the Church and the fruit; Sacred Scripture. You cannot declare the fruit good if indeed the tree is bad. The bible was not intended to be used for self-interpretations, the Truth already was, is and forever shall be! It is not by our own understanding that we receive Truth, it is by faith in that which has already been revealed “divine revelation” that we receive Truth. If we understood it all, then it would no longer be faith that we have.
“As you sent me into the world, so I sent them into the world. And I consecrate myself for them, so that they also may be consecrated in truth. I pray not only for them, but also for those who will believe in me through their word.” -Jn 17:18-20
Christ prays that we may be consecrated in truth “not” through his word alone “Sola Scriptura”, but rather through their word, “Sacred Tradition”. When we eliminate Sacred Tradition, we eliminate the means in which Christ prays, “that we may be consecrated in Truth.”
Looking at the two differences in the way Catholics and Protestants come to know the Gospel, and knowing that Christ’s teachings are understood differently between Catholics and Protestants, I began to wonder Do Catholics and Protestants believe in the same Gospel?
**For all Catholics… **Is not the Gospel, the “Good News” of Jesus Christ? The Gospel brings to us Salvation in Christ, “For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him might not parish but might have eternal life.” -Jn 3:16. Is that where it ends with you? Does not your “Good News” extend to the “Bread of Life”? Is it not the “Gospel” for every Catholic that, “we become partaker’s of the divine nature”, not only in “Spirit” but in the “Body and Blood” of our Lord Jesus Christ? Is it not Jesus Christ who is the Gospel? How can that be seperate from the Holy Eucharist? The “Holy Eucharist” is the “Heart” of the Church. And it should be the center of Christian Life. The Medicine of Immortality… correct me if I’m wrong “Catholics” Is this not the Gospel, “Good News”? If you truely believe that Jesus Christ is present, body, blood, soul and divinity in the Blessed Sacrament, then it should be.
Please protestants, I know this is not the Gospel according to you, I am just addressing the Catholics. But feel free to respond.