Do Catholics despise Anglicans?

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Catholics are not allowed to participate in anything that makes a mockery of Judaism - that’s why they would have been chastised for attending a Seder supper.
A mockery of Judaism?? How dare you say something so unfounded about our Seder supper. This is real history and real tradition. Maybe if the Catholic church in our town still had a Seder supper, the Catholic folks (who were very nice) would have attended theirs. Your remark about our Seder supper was unwarranted and rude.
 
Ronnok:

As you say, it may be that Anglicans profess the Eucharist to be what RC’s believe it is. Many Anglicans, however, don’t believe in the Real Presence.

However, Anglicans don’t have a valid Episcopacy or Priesthood. Therefore, their liturgy is incapable of producing the same Eucharist as is in Catholicism. They can profess what they want; what they have is an entirely different matter. What they have is bread and wine, not the Body and Blood of the Lord Jesus.

As far as disliking Anglicans or Lutherans…I as a Catholic don’t think about them very much, and so it is not a matter of liking them or disliking them. It is a irrevelant non-issue. Do you have any surveys to support your view?

Maybe a person has to be a Protestant, like you, to have these feelings.

peace
He certainly isn’t alone in his feelings. I can imagine now how Martin Luther felt and Jesus himself when they professed the truth and was mocked and chasisted for it. It just shows how bad things can get when arrogance, greed, corruption and ill will rule at the end of the day.
 
Is there anything in the Catechism or any magisterial documents saying Catholics are allowed to do such things? You can claim all you want, but it’s pure ignorance to blame someone, who has never even met you in person, that they despise you. Pretty harsh accusations if you ask me.

You can’t judge a religion by the actions of a few people. It’s just silly.🤷

In Pax Christi
Andrew
And that is a huge lame excuse to blanket wrongdoing and errors. You would never give a Protestant denomination that same consideration. Look at what Rome did to Martin Luther for professing the truth. They called him a heretic for professing that we are saved by faith in Christ and not the papacy. Thank God someone finally had his kind of courage. Thank God for the Reformation.
 
Sure, I’ll respond. Ronnok is correct. It is very prevalent where I live. One outburst of it was when we had 7 Catholics attend our Seder supper during Lent this year and all 7 were ridiculed and chastised by their priest for it. You must either live in Antarctica or have your head in the sand (or snow) to not see it.
Another Nella non-sequitur. What does the chastisement of their priest mean. You say they were chastisement, because the priest hates you?

Nella their ‘despisement’ wasn’t apparent because they were willing to attend your seder. Maybe their parish had their own seder, and the priest wanted them to attend theirs.

Nella you have as much dislike of Catholics as any one I know. Tell me you love us, and you post only positive comments on Catholics.

peace
 
He certainly isn’t alone in his feelings. I can imagine now how Martin Luther felt and Jesus himself when they professed the truth and was mocked and chasisted for it. It just shows how bad things can get when arrogance, greed, corruption and ill will rule at the end of the day.
Nella - From other posts I gather you are a FORMER CATHOLIC? And you have also previously stated that you received “all your sacraments there.” Now you harbor no small amount of disdain towards the Catholic Church. Why? What happened? It is a unique phenomenon that former Catholics have so much dislike for their former church. I left the Episcopal Church (which you joined) and have nothing bad to say about the people and for the most part enjoyed the experience although I have major disagreements with the current structure and views, etc. which is why people are leaving that church in droves…but I digress. I don’t post on Anglican web sites or chastise my relatives that are still Episcopalian (I recall you are encouraging your now Catholic father to join you). I simply found the FULLNESS of truth and spiritual renewal I was seeking within the Catholic Church. So my question is why so many that leave the Catholic Church harbor so much animosity? I guess that is the definition of being Protestant. Nonetheless to be on topic here, as a Catholic I have now hard feelings towards Anglicans/Episcopalians. Can you say the same, Nella?🤷

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Mother Mary Pray for us
 
As a former Anglican-ashamed-to-be-called-Episcopalian, I remember how I continually had to convince myself of why I was not a Roman Catholic. I also had to explain to everyone, including myself, what it meant to be catholic but not Roman. I love my Anglican/Anglo-Catholic heritage and I learned so much. If I hadn’t been an Anglican, I would probably never have found the portal to the Catholic Church. I love Anglicans and hope that the beauty of the liturgy and tradition will lead each one of them to the fullness of truth in the Catholic Church, and that we catholics will live up to our call and attract them with our beautiful liturgy, reverence, music, etc. Our Lady of Walsingham, pray for us!
 
As a former Anglican-ashamed-to-be-called-Episcopalian, I remember how I continually had to convince myself of why I was not a Roman Catholic. I also had to explain to everyone, including myself, what it meant to be catholic but not Roman. I love my Anglican/Anglo-Catholic heritage and I learned so much. If I hadn’t been an Anglican, I would probably never have found the portal to the Catholic Church. I love Anglicans and hope that the beauty of the liturgy and tradition will lead each one of them to the fullness of truth in the Catholic Church, and that we catholics will live up to our call and attract them with our beautiful liturgy, reverence, music, etc. Our Lady of Walsingham, pray for us!
AMEN:thumbsup:
 
He certainly isn’t alone in his feelings. I can imagine now how Martin Luther felt and Jesus himself when they professed the truth and was mocked and chasisted for it. It just shows how bad things can get when arrogance, greed, corruption and ill will rule at the end of the day.
Nella,

You’re improving. You didn’t mention child abuse.

peace

Today is the Feast of the Exultation of the Holy Cross.
 
As a former Anglican-ashamed-to-be-called-Episcopalian, I remember how I continually had to convince myself of why I was not a Roman Catholic. I also had to explain to everyone, including myself, what it meant to be catholic but not Roman. I love my Anglican/Anglo-Catholic heritage and I learned so much. If I hadn’t been an Anglican, I would probably never have found the portal to the Catholic Church. I love Anglicans and hope that the beauty of the liturgy and tradition will lead each one of them to the fullness of truth in the Catholic Church, and that we catholics will live up to our call and attract them with our beautiful liturgy, reverence, music, etc. Our Lady of Walsingham, pray for us!
Amen to that!

Someone else say, “Amen”.

Amen!
 
As a former Anglican-ashamed-to-be-called-Episcopalian, I remember how I continually had to convince myself of why I was not a Roman Catholic. I also had to explain to everyone, including myself, what it meant to be catholic but not Roman. I love my Anglican/Anglo-Catholic heritage and I learned so much. If I hadn’t been an Anglican, I would probably never have found the portal to the Catholic Church. I love Anglicans and hope that the beauty of the liturgy and tradition will lead each one of them to the fullness of truth in the Catholic Church, and that we catholics will live up to our call and attract them with our beautiful liturgy, reverence, music, etc. Our Lady of Walsingham, pray for us!
I’ll add my “Amen” to this. 👍 But I do sympathize with those Anglicans who have difficulty accepting the claims of the Catholic Church. It took me a long time to work it out. Also, don’t be ashamed to say you were once an Episcopalian, for that’s what you were. At one time, the Episcopal Church actually stood for something besides the liberal deconstructionist agenda, and there are still many faithful God-fearing Episcopalians who are working through this time of trial in their communion. Nella’s certainly one of them, my family is another example. Pray for them, not only that they be led into the truth found in the Catholic Faith, but that God comfort them where they are now.:signofcross:
 
I’ll add my “Amen” to this. 👍 But I do sympathize with those Anglicans who have difficulty accepting the claims of the Catholic Church. It took me a long time to work it out. Also, don’t be ashamed to say you were once an Episcopalian, for that’s what you were.
I think what he’s saying is that when he was Anglican he was ashamed to call himself Episcopalian. I know that feeling!

Edwin
 
It is a unique phenomenon that former Catholics have so much dislike for their former church.
No, it’s not. It’s a common phenomenon in converts, and contrary to the claims often made on this board there are plenty of converts to Catholicism (many of them post on this board regularly) who are bitter against their former churches. However, it’s true that converts to Catholicism from Protestantism are less likely to do this than those who go the other way, because Catholicism can be seen as the fullness of Protestantism, but it’s pretty hard to argue that Protestantism is the fullness of Catholicism.

I am not disputing your own attitude, only pointing out that it is not universal–one ex-Protestant on these boards has actually said that Protestants worship a different God from Catholics.

Edwin
 
They called him a heretic for professing that we are saved by faith in Christ and not the papacy.
No. I suggest that you read some good biographies of Luther to understand better what he was condemned for–denying the sacrifice of the Mass, for one thing.

Edwin
 
Catholics are not allowed to participate in anything that makes a mockery of Judaism - that’s why they would have been chastised for attending a Seder supper.
Absolutely jmcrae.

A Christian [or any other non-Jew] attending a cedar meal would be a grave insult to the Jews.

In UK, it simply would not be tolerated.

Neither is it allowed for Catholics to hold their ‘OWN’ Cedar Meal
This was tried in our Diocese and there was widespread condemnation from the Jewish Community which was a great embarrassment to the Church.

Appropriate apologies were offered.
 
It seems to me that Catholics seem to have more of a disliking for The Anglican Communion than for anyone else, even Lutherans. Why is this? Is is because the Anglican reformers in the 16th century kept most of the RC form of worship when they split from Rome? Is it because of King Henry or Queen Elizabeth II? Or possibly could it be that Anglicans actually profess the Eucharist to be exactly what RC’s believe that it is?
I rather like some Anglican things. Great vestments, great liturgical English, beautiful church architechture… there is no doubting the sincere piety of many a good churchman found therein.

But I still think them in error on a good many things and lacking seven sacraments.

I don’t despise Anglicans as a whole or as individuals, but they are (as taught by the Catholic Church, and this is the Catholic Answers forum, so I am not going to further qualify that) in error.
 
This is an immensely long thread, and I don’t have time to read all the posts, so you all might want to ignore this one.

I don’t think Catholics despise Anglicans. I have never seen or heard anything that made me think so. On the contrary, I think a lot of Catholics, at least, think of Anglicans as “almost” Catholics. Certainly some of the recent ordinations and appointments of bishops in the Episcopal church have caused a lot of Catholics, including me, to wonder mightily about whether they have lost their way big time.

I will say this much. When I was growing up in this very protestant part of the country, Episcopalians were the “ruling class”. You could almost exactly p(name removed by moderator)oint one’s socio/economic status by his religion. If a person was an Episcopalian around here, it almost certainly meant he was a professional or business person and was prosperous and influential. It kind of went down the scale from there. Methodists came next, then Presbyterians, and so on. Catholics were in a class of their own. Mostly working class, down with the Fundamentalists socially, but on a fast collision course, economically and professionally, with the ones above. And, if the truth be known, I think some of those on the upper levels knew a lot of Catholics were “comers”, didn’t like it, and didn’t make any secret of it.

I think for some Catholics around here anyway, any animosity toward Episcopalians in particular was more a class thing than a religious thing, exactly. You had to struggle your way through the Anglican/Methodist Ceiling to get anywhere. I think that’s all pretty much in the past now, though. Long ago, my father got his hands on a membership roster of the 1920s/1930s KKK. All the “best” citizens were on it. I see the grandchildren of those people now, who are my peers in every way, and I wonder whether they know. (They certainly won’t learn it from me.) And I wonder how much of the old resentment has been handed down. But it doesn’t dare to be overt anymore among the upper levels of local society, if it’s even there.

But you know, a fair number of the members of the “Mainline” protestant churches are now the social liberals locally. And considering that alone, and considering how social liberals dislike true Catholicism, there might be some transfer of the old feelings. Anymore, I guess I tend to assume that an Episcopalian, for example, is automatically pro-abortion and supports gay marriage, or he wouldn’t be able to stand being an Episcopalian. And to that extent, I will have to confess that I do harbor a certain degree of prejudice toward them. The ones who call themselves Anglo-Catholics or even, sometimes, just plain “Anglicans” just leave me puzzled. I tend to assume they are more like me in what they believe. I also tend to assume they are masters of the English language, which most of their clergy, at least, truly are.
 
Catholics are not allowed to participate in anything that makes a mockery of Judaism - that’s why they would have been chastised for attending a Seder supper.
I wish you had told that to the parish priest of the RC parish I grew up in. He had the audacity to hold one in our parish - in the church, on the altar (church in the round) wearing a yarmulka no less.

From then I went on to Jesuit High school where at one liturgy we had a Lutheran minister concelebrate a Mass.

From then on, I started attending Divine Liturgy at my grandmother’s Greek Catholic Church.
 
He certainly isn’t alone in his feelings. I can imagine now how Martin Luther felt and Jesus himself when they professed the truth and was mocked and chasisted for it. It just shows how bad things can get when arrogance, greed, corruption and ill will rule at the end of the day.
Nella I will give you the benifit of the doubt that you are attempting to be sincere. One guy I knew in college who was an agnostic used to say to us “That’s ok, people said those things to Jesus too!”
And that is a huge lame excuse to blanket wrongdoing and errors. You would never give a Protestant denomination that same consideration. Look at what Rome did to Martin Luther for professing the truth. They called him a heretic for professing that we are saved by faith in Christ and not the papacy. Thank God someone finally had his kind of courage. Thank God for the Reformation.
Yes thank God for the reformation. It gave us the Society of Jesus.

And are you aware of what Luther said/did to the Catholic Church? He wasn’t a victim.
 
I wish you had told that to the parish priest of the RC parish I grew up in. He had the audacity to hold one in our parish - in the church, on the altar (church in the round) wearing a yarmulka no less.

From then I went on to Jesuit High school where at one liturgy we had a Lutheran minister concelebrate a Mass.

From then on, I started attending Divine Liturgy at my grandmother’s Greek Catholic Church.
I’m not sure, is this an ascent or descent that you ended up in your grandmother’s church?
 
Nella I will give you the benifit of the doubt that you are attempting to be sincere. One guy I knew in college who was an agnostic used to say to us “That’s ok, people said those things to Jesus too!”

Yes thank God for the reformation. It gave us the Society of Jesus.

And are you aware of what Luther said/did to the Catholic Church? He wasn’t a victim.
I can see where you are coming from.

But I must take issue at the barbarous treatment that Catholics suffered in the English Protestant Inquisition which was far worse than anything suffered in the Spanish Inquisition. Things which are simply too disgusting and disturbing to print on a family forum such as CAF.

Just for the record, there were more Catholics killed per week than Protestants who died in ALL the alleged Catholic Inquisitions over 500-years.
 
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