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Rightlydivide
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You just never know.
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mommyof4
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Don’t feed the troll!
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jmcrae
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Pretty much anything that says, “Here is my opinion …” or words to that effect. The Bible was written by normal human beings; it was not dictated from upon high by God through some kind of automatic writing. (We would most likely throw it away if it had been, since automatic writing is an occult practice, anyway.)
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Joab_Anias
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Amen!
An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who intentionally posts controversial or contrary messages in an on-line community such as an on-line discussion forum or group with the intention of baiting users into an argumentative response.
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JudieK
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Why do so many non-Catholics apply their own personal opinion to John 6 (as well as countless church fathers prior to the bible being cannonized) when it discusses the eucharist? I would think this would be a much more crucial issue. I also don’t know of many protestants that wear headcoverings.
Also- why do you neglect 1 Timothy 3:15, which calls the church “the pillar and foundation of the truth?” Note that it says the church, and not the bible. The bible is a product of the church, not the other way around. Jesus founded a church, he didn’t write a book. The Catholic Church decided what books would be in the Bible. He gave the church the authority to bind and loose on earth, which would be held in heaven. If the church chooses to loosen the rules on headcoverings, it can, because Jesus gave it that authority. It is not a matter of doctrine, but of ritual, which can be changed without compromising the faith.
Also- why do you neglect 1 Timothy 3:15, which calls the church “the pillar and foundation of the truth?” Note that it says the church, and not the bible. The bible is a product of the church, not the other way around. Jesus founded a church, he didn’t write a book. The Catholic Church decided what books would be in the Bible. He gave the church the authority to bind and loose on earth, which would be held in heaven. If the church chooses to loosen the rules on headcoverings, it can, because Jesus gave it that authority. It is not a matter of doctrine, but of ritual, which can be changed without compromising the faith.
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jmcrae
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You do realize that St. Paul also forbids men to wear pants, right?
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deb1
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I have read on various Protestant sites that Jewish men of the first century didn’t have long hair. I can’t find this on any Jewish archeological sites that are secular though. Could you direct me to one?
I actually think that these Protestant sites are confusing the social habits of Romans with the Jewish people. Roman males wore short hair. I have no idea how most Jewish men of the time period wore their hair, though.
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Rightlydivide
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Go ahead, produce the verse. The word pants is not in the NTYou do realize that St. Paul also forbids men to wear pants, right?
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"I have looked at John 6 extensively and do not think it is talking about the Last supper.2
So your opinion is better informed that the one of the Apostolic Fathers?
“Depends on the time in history. We learn about the church now from the Bible.”
Yes, on orders of who?
“Yes, and two of his disciples wrote.”
How do you know they were his disciples realy writting, who tell you?
“Not true at all. The early church was not Catholic”
Who toldl you that, your mommy?
What they were them, were is your evidence?.
“If they preach the gospel, they will ensure that people reach the Kingdom of Heaven, which is what the bind and loose refers to.”
Who told you so, your mommy again? People in that time did not thought that.
“Not if it contradicts the Bible”
So you have allready given all your good to the poor?
So you have allready pulled an eye when it offended you?
Who is cherry picking now?
Please do not feed the troll.
So your opinion is better informed that the one of the Apostolic Fathers?
“Depends on the time in history. We learn about the church now from the Bible.”
Yes, on orders of who?
“Yes, and two of his disciples wrote.”
How do you know they were his disciples realy writting, who tell you?
“Not true at all. The early church was not Catholic”
Who toldl you that, your mommy?
What they were them, were is your evidence?.
“If they preach the gospel, they will ensure that people reach the Kingdom of Heaven, which is what the bind and loose refers to.”
Who told you so, your mommy again? People in that time did not thought that.
“Not if it contradicts the Bible”
So you have allready given all your good to the poor?
So you have allready pulled an eye when it offended you?
Who is cherry picking now?
Please do not feed the troll.
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Rightlydivide
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Yes. To the extent they departed from the teachings of Christ, yes.
I do not understand this statement.
Who “tell” me? Well history has “told” me and I accept it by faith as well. Who do you think wrote them?
My mother was not Christian.
“What they were them”? Well, hard to argue with that.
Of course they did.
Just about.
I think I just gave him a bucket full.
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Mannyfit75
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They aren’t forgeries. He had other letters. 7 of his letters which my friend quote here are authentic.
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Rightlydivide
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You did not answer a one of the original questions I posed to you earlier in the thread. Most of the answers seem to be cafeteria Catholics. Since you seem to be the real deal, how about answering them with real Catholic answers?
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Mannyfit75
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I also looked at them, and I noticed one of the other Catholics already answered them. I don’t need to repeat what was already been said.
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anthony022071
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Those who are a part of the apostolic tradition of the Church get to decide upon those things,just as they decided upon the books of the Bible.
The scriptures are dead words upon the page,whereas the living apostolic tradition preserves living Word of God,and is guided by the Spirit in the interpretation of scripture. Only those who are entrusted with the living Word of God can decide upon the Word of God written in the dead words of the scriptures.
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Milliardo
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Actually, if one would read the passage, it would fit Jesus perfectly since, as in another passage Paul will say, He is made sin itself for the sake of our sins. So in that regard then, having long hair might be a disgrace for Christ, but in doing so, in such a way He bore that disgrace which we should bear.
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