Do Catholics know the real Jesus?

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How can we be cleansed so that we will be fit to enter into Heaven? To become a child of God we must repent of our sins and believe on Jesus. If we have sinned as a child of God, then we must confess our sin, repent of it, and pray to God for forgiveness. When we repent of our sins, God will cleanse us and we will be fit to enter into Heaven. 1 John 1:9 says “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” Hence our sins, all of them, are forgiven through the sacrifice of Christ, and none are left to be purged away by human merit. 1 John 1:7 states “But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.” The verb ‘cleanseth’ is in present tense in the Greek manuscripts, meaning that the blood of Christ continues to cleanse us from all sin. If we continue to walk in the light, when we die, we will be pure and free from all sin. We will not need any purifying fires of Purgatory, but we will be totally exempt from all sin or spots, and we will be fit for Heaven. The one walking in the light will be cleansed from his sin by the blood of Christ. He will have no debts carried with him out of this world. Titus 2:14 “Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.” If He redeems us from all iniquity then we are pure and fit to enter into Heaven. There is no need for us to pass through Purgatory. Isaiah 1:18 says “Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.” God will cleanse us from all our sins, no matter how great they are.

Catholics use certain passages to support the doctrine of Purgatory. 2 Maccabees 12:39-45 “And upon the day following, as the use had been, Judas [Maccabeus–mh] and his company came to take up the bodies of them that were slain, and to bury them with their kinsmen in their fathers graves. Now under the coats of every one that was slain they found things consecrated to the idols of the Jamnites, which is forbidden the Jews by the law. Then every man saw that this was the cause wherefore they were slain. All men therefore praising the Lord, the righteous Judge, who had opened the things that were hid, Betook themselves unto prayer, and besought him that the sin committed might wholly be put out of remembrance. Besides, that noble Judas exhorted the people to keep themselves from sin, for so much as they saw before their eyes the things that came to pass for the sins of those that were slain. And when he had made a gathering throughout the company to the sum of two thousand drachmas of silver, he sent it to Jerusalem to offer a sin offering, doing therein very well and honestly, in that he was mindful of the resurrection: For if he had not hoped that they that were slain should have risen again, it had been superfluous and vain to pray for the dead. And also in that he perceived that there was great favor laid up for those that died godly, it was an holy and good thought. Whereupon he made a reconciliation for the dead, that they might be delivered from sin.” This is from the Apocrypha, and is not recognized by Protestants to be the word of God. It does give valuable historic information, but nothing it teaches can be held authoritatively. One important thing to notice is that Purgatory is not found in these verses. Nowhere in this passage is there any mention of fire in which souls are tormented. All that is mentioned is prayers for the dead, from which the Roman Catholic theologians infer, first, that such prayers are proper, and secondly, that such prayers can be effective for the salvation of the dead. Furthermore, from the Roman Catholic viewpoint, these verses prove too much, for they teach the possible salvation of soldiers who had died in mortal sin, that of idolatry. That contradicts Roman Catholic doctrine, which says that those dying in mortal sin go straight to Hell and are permanently lost. Surely one who had never heard of Purgatory would not learn about it from this passage.
 
Let us consider the passages in the New Testament which “insinuate” the doctrine of Purgatory. Matthew 3:12 “Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.” They argue that the fire is Purgatory. This is a fire which will never be quenched or extinguished. Purgatory’s fire will come to an end. Thus, this cannot refer to Purgatory. Matthew 5:25-26 reads “Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.” Catholics say that this ‘prison’ is Purgatory. Instead, this is imprisonment in a jail for failing to pay a debt. ‘Till’ does not look forward to getting out of Purgatory, but till the debt (the amount of money) was paid (worked off). Matthew 12:32 states “And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.” Catholics reason that this sin would not be forgiven in the world to come, thus there must be some sins which will be forgiven in the world to come. They believe that those sins will be pardoned in Purgatory. Jesus never mentioned any sins that will be forgiven in the world to come. All Jesus was saying was that this sin would never be forgiven. 1 Corinthians 3:11-15 “For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.” Catholics teach that the fire which will try man’s work is the fire of Purgatory. If a man’s works burn that means that those works were faulty and imperfect, thus he shall suffer loss (spend time in Purgatory) but will ultimately be saved. Notice some differences between this fire and the fire of Purgatory. This fire is not till the last day, the fire of Purgatory begins at death. The fire of Paul is to try the works, the fire of Purgatory is to try the persons. Paul’s fire causes ‘loss’ to the sufferers; Catholics’ Purgatory, great gain, namely, Heaven at last to those purged by it. This fire is to ‘try men’s works of what sort they are’, but Purgatory-fire is not for trial, not to bring men’s actions to the test, but to punish men for them. Thus, this passage is altogether against Purgatory. 1 Peter 3:18-20 says “For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the long-suffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.” Catholics teach that Christ went into Purgatory (the spirits in prison) and preached the gospel to them, and He gave them the opportunity to live (a second chance). The spirits that Christ preached to in prison were the ones who were disobedient during the days of Noah. They rejected the preaching done through Noah, so they were now in prison. Catholics just assume this prison is Purgatory, without any contextual foundation. This prison is Hell, not Purgatory. 2 Peter 2:4-5 “For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly…” Genesis 6:13 “So God said to Noah, 'I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them. I am surely going to destroy both them and the earth.” If God destroyed those people then they would be in Hell, not in Purgatory where they would have a second chance. These spirits were in Hell, and would not be transported to Heaven by way of Purgatory. These were spirits that would be lost, not saved in the end.
 
I’m not as theologically well-versed as the rest of the people here, but I have a few short sweet things I think I can add:
  1. You seem to be telling us what we believe! In most cases, you either make a misconception or pervert the doctrines of the church. Either way, it’s probably best to let us explain what we believe instead of explaining to us what we believe 😉
  2. Do you honestly think that Peter was Satan…? So Satan wrote two books of the Bible?
 
Catholicism claims that we must be good enough to earn our entrance into Heaven. Catholics say that while Christ died for our sins, His blood does not completely take sins away. They state that we must still be punished for the sins we commit. Thus, one must suffer a period of time in Purgatory until God’s justice is satisfied. 1 John 2:2 “He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.” Christ’s sacrifice is atoning for our sins, so we do not need to go to Purgatory and atone for our sins. Hebrews 10:18 “Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.” Hebrews 10:14 “For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.” Purgatory would be another offering for sin. There is no need for another sin offering; Jesus’ blood was sufficient to cleanse us from all sin. Christ’s blood washes away sins at baptism: Acts 22:16 “And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.” Christ’s blood continues to wash away our sins as we confess our sins: 1 John 1:7 “But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.” Our sins are totally forgiven through the blood of Christ. According to Catholics, God would continue to remember our sins until we have passed through Purgatory. Hebrews 10:17 “Then he adds: ‘Their sins and lawless acts I will remember no more.’” Hebrews 8:12 “For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more.” Micah 7:19 “He will turn again, he will have compassion upon us; he will subdue our iniquities; and thou wilt cast all their sins into the depths of the sea.” Psalms 103:12 “As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.” According to these verses God will not remember our sins, but He will remove them from us. Romans 5:9 states “Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” We are saved from wrath. Purgatory is wrath, even though only temporary to satisfy God’s justice. Romans 8:1 “There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.” Purgatory would place one right in the middle of condemnation. Jesus said in John 5:24, “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.” Hence eternal life is already possessed by the soul that believes on Christ and there can be no possible condemnation of that soul. When Jesus said to the penitent thief on the cross “Today shalt thou be with me in Paradise” (Luke 23:43), the clear inference was that at his death he would go immediately to Heaven. Jesus made no mention of Purgatory. 2 Corinthians 5:6-8 declares “Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: (For we walk by faith, not by sight:) We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.” When in this life, we are absent from the Lord. When we die, we are at home with God. If we had to spend time in Purgatory, then we would not be present with the Lord at death. Paul’s statements would be totally incorrect if Purgatory exists. Proverbs 10:12 reads “Hatred stirreth up strifes: but love covereth all sins.” God’s love covers all our sins, so there is no need for us to suffer for them in Purgatory.
 
Leviticus 19:2 says “Speak unto all the congregation of the children of Israel, and say unto them, Ye shall be holy: for I the Lord your God am holy.” Why would God tell the children of Israel to be holy if it were impossible for them to be holy in their lifetime? 1 Thessalonians 4:7 says “For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness.” Why would God call us unto holiness if it were impossible for us to be holy in our lifetime? It is indeed possible for us to be holy in this lifetime. However, we cannot do it alone; we need God to make us holy. Leviticus 20:8 “Keep my decrees and follow them. I am the Lord, who makes you holy.” If we sin we must repent of our sin, and ask God for forgiveness and cleansing. God will then forgive us, cleanse us, and make us holy. If we are truly holy then we are fit to enter Heaven, and we do not need to pass through Purgatory to be purified.

Catholics argue that Jesus did not reprove the Jews for their belief in a middle state nor for praying for the dead. Since He did not condemn it, it must be in harmony with His will. But simply because He did not condemn the Jews for this belief does not prove that He approved of it. There were other errors which Jesus did not directly condemn. Also, we do not have everything recorded which Jesus did. John 20:30 “And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book…” John 21:25 “And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.” Jesus might have condemned this doctrine and the Gospel writers simply did not record it.

o take this and encorporate this in your church.
Alex
 
Welcome Alexander!

Do you know Christ as He is? Please share what you know ***all ***about Him, and I like you to share your thought on His Humility as start.

Thanks!
👍
st lucy:
Hello,

As a Catholic, I do know Jesus, I am lucky enough to receive at least once a week at the Holy Mass, Body, Blood and Soul just as He promised all of us Christians, in John 6.

I also get to be in His Church and follow all of His commandments just as He intended when He started His ONE holy Church 2000 years ago and which only exist in the CC.

Welcome to the Forum and I know that if you stick around and learn you will see that Catholics are Christian and are VERY close to our Lord Jesus.
Amen, brothers and sisters, amen.
 
I will stay here… so that your souls ay be saved.😃
Unfortunately Alex, you will need to do a little more than remain here and quote large portions of text out of some book.

In order to even stand a chance of “saving our souls” (assuming for the sake of the argument that we are all wrong) you will need to engage us. Many have offered comments, opinions and interpretations for your consideration, and as yet we have seen no evidence that you wish to engage us where we are.

I look forward to you taking the time to respond individually to those who have taken the time to respond to you.

Regards Doc
 
Alexander, every time you said “Catholics believe…” you proceeded to state things that Catholics DO NOT believe. So your credibility is kind of shot right there.

I encourage you to read through this thread and see what Catholics ACTUALLY believe, and/or read through the tracts at Catholic.com to get a better idea of what Catholics REALLY believe as opposed to what you THINK they believe.

This is a good place to start.

Oh, by the way, when you cut and paste large portions of text from another source, such as a book or website, it’s common courtesy to cite your source – otherwise it comes across as plagiarism.
 
he’s gone, never to be seen again.

prolly.
I wouldn’t be too quick to assume that. So far he has posted once per day.
We shall see - - Is he a true follower of Christ? Will he accept the challenge of Wisdom?🤷

James
 
JehuandGod, examine these two Scriptures more closely.
Romans 3:23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God…”
Scripture says that neither Zechariah nor Elizabeth ever sinned.
“And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blamelessly,” Luke 1:6.

Scripture itself says that NOT “all” have sinned in the sense of every single human being. Rather, Romans 3:23 means that both Jew and Gentile need redemption. Read the whole chapter. The out-of-context quotation of Romans 3:23 as meaning every single person has committed personal sin is a tradition of men which contradicts the plain text of Luke 1:6.
They believe that Mary was always a virgin, and had no children other than Jesus. Matthew 13:55-56 “Is not this the carpenter’s son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?”
And we know from Scripture that James and Joseph were sons of a DIFFERENT Mary: “There were also many women there, looking on from afar … among whom were Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the mother of the sons of Zebedee,” Matt 27:55-56. “But standing by the cross of Jesus were his mother, and his mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene,” John 19:25. James and Joseph were the sons of Mary the wife of Clopas, not Mary the mother of Jesus.

“Brother” is used for “cousin” in both Hebrew and Aramaic, See Genesis 14:14, where Abraham’s nephew Lot is called his “brother” (Gen. 11:27 shows Lot is Abraham’s nephew).

Had Jesus had any blood brothers, He would have entrusted care of his mother Mary to them at His death. Instead, Jesus entrusted care of His mother Mary to the beloved disciple John (John 19:26-27). Do you contend that Jesus’ last act upon the cross was to spite four blood brothers in favor of his disciple John?

So far it doesn’t seem that you know the Bible very well (nothing personal). As I said, we know our Bibles quite well. So as I asked you before, what credentials give you any better ability to interprete Scripture than us? We have read the whole Bible, cover to cover, have you?
 
I wouldn’t be too quick to assume that. So far he has posted once per day.
We shall see - - Is he a true follower of Christ? Will he accept the challenge of Wisdom?🤷

James
Well obviously I spoke too soon.

Alex,
I will let the specifics of the various doctrinal arguments to the real apologists and address myself to certain historical and logical points.
  1. You state that you are a “Bible Believing Christian”. I assume that by this you mean you accept the Bible as the Word of God given to man. If this is so please explain when it was that God gave man this word. Moses wrote much of “The Law”, the Prophets over many hundreds of years. The NT over a span of many decades. When Did God give man “His Word” and how was “His Word” gathered and assembled into the Bible?
  2. By what authority do you assume the Bible is the Full, Whole, and Complete Word of God? Bible verses cannot be used for this because no book in the Bible was written after the establishment of the canon.
  3. You further state that you are a believer in “the way the church is called in Acts 2.” I find little in there relating to “the way the church is called” but What I do see is that the converts, “…were continuing stedfastly in the teaching of the apostles, and the fellowship, and the breaking of the bread, and the prayers. (Act 2:42 from Young’s Literal Translation)
    Now since the disciples and converts were holding stedfastly in the “teachings of the apostles” and the apostles later confirmed bishops (being themselves the first bishops) to continue the teaching after them, it follows that the successive lines of bishops hold the authority of Christ.
  4. Jesus Himself gave Peter the “keys” and gave him authority to “Bind or Loose”. You argue that this applied to Peter the person and not his successors. However, since Peter himself approved of the naming of Bishops, and the structure of the early Church, which was primarily spread by oral teaching and the keeping of tradition, it follows that the authority of Christ’s Church through the apostolic succesion of the Catholic Church does come from Christ Himself.
Lastly I will note that, so far, you have not engaged in any meaningful way the various doctrines, corrections, questions etc raised by the good people on this board. Instead simply posting incorrect propaganda as though it were fact. Pleas do take the time to examine your arguments, recognize that people here are sincere Christians and treat them as such.

Yours in Christ
James
 
**Alex,
Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen said it best

“*There are not a hundred people in America who hate the Catholic Church. There are millions of people who hate what they wrongly believe to be the Catholic Church — which is, of course, quite a different thing.” ***

Please take the time to read what Catholic’s really believe. (from Catholic sources) And what the Catholic Church teaches…
 
To answer your original question - not only do we KNOW the REAL Jesus, we have the most personal relationship with HIM possible - we eat His Flesh and drink His Blood.

So, the answer is - “Yes”🙂
 
Alex,
(and to all, please forgive me for the size)

I am writing this extra large and colorful because I want to make sure you see it and that it doesn’t get lost in the posts:

That being said

Please be careful and exude in charity. You started off great, but quickly descended into telling us what we believe, Many of which are false. You have many points of contention, and this is fine. I and many of us here encourage questioning, but becareful how you question.

For example… You go… “Yes, you Catholics do worship Mary!” This is far from a charitable response/question. I recommend first that you read what the Church actually teaches on mary and the saints here.

Above all, show the love Christ demands of us. Assuming we are not saved places you as Judge, read James 4:8-14ish. God is the only one qualified enough to Judge anyone, so I respectfully request that you do not declare that those of us here are not saved.

Finally, you have concerns about Catholicism, and this is fine, my suggestion is not to shotgun your concerns. Take them one at a time and be patient, and willing to learn.

I do not mean to be insulting, so please do not take it as such, but you do not seem to know what we believe, but have inf act learned what we believe from those that hate the Catholic Church…

Its like learning about African Americans from the KKK. do you really think the information will be accurate?

May your stay here be blessed. I’d like to see you stay, but keep the love Christ demands. Be Patient, and be humble. Remember, you are a guest in our forum. Please be respectful as you would a guest in anyones home.

In Christ

ps: My apologies for the color/size/etc I do not normally post like this and wanted to ensure it was seen.
 
I wonder if this thread should be closed. I see where it is headed. There are some brilliant people out here giving excellent rebuttal. Unfortunately, it is classic attack on the beautiful faith of the Catholic Church. Misconception after misconception fired at us, and the OP has no desire to listen to our responses, only a desire to reload their gun.
 
Exodus 32:1-8
When the people saw that Moses was so long in coming down from the mountain, they gathered around Aaron and said, “Come, make us gods who will go before us. As for this fellow Moses who brought us up out of Egypt, we don’t know what has happened to him.” Aaron answered them, “Take off the gold earrings that your wives, your sons and your daughters are wearing, and bring them to me.” So all the people took off their earrings and brought them to Aaron. He took what they handed him and made it into an idol cast in the shape of a calf, fashioning it with a tool. Then they said, “These are your gods, O Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.” When Aaron saw this, he built an altar in front of the calf and announced, “Tomorrow there will be a festival to the LORD.” So the next day the people rose early and sacrificed burnt offerings and presented fellowship offerings. Afterward they sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in revelry. Then the LORD said to Moses, "Go down, because your people, whom you brought up out of Egypt, have become corrupt. They have been quick to turn away from what I commanded them and have made themselves an idol cast in the shape of a calf. They have bowed down to it and sacrificed to it and have said, ‘These are your gods, O Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.’
Randy??? What are you thinking? This is the reason that God punished Aaron and the reason that the priesthood was removed from ALL the men of Israel and reserved only to the Levites – they did NOT worship the calf!!! This is the very example of what NOT to do with images: Make them “to thyself”.
 
Alexander, every time you said “Catholics believe…” you proceeded to state things that Catholics DO NOT believe.
Misconception after misconception fired at us, and the OP has no desire to listen to our responses, only a desire to reload their gun.
This kind of sums it up, doesn’t it. In one sense, this thread is a testament to the vapid deficiency of the stereotypical attacks against Catholicism. 😃
 
I will stay here… so that your souls ay be saved.😃

Catholics believe that Mary is sacred and holy. They have statues of Mary in their churches, even though this is against God’s commandment. Exodus 20:4-5 “Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them…” They pray to Mary. Nowhere in the Bible does it tell us to pray to Mary, or any other person, but it tells us only to pray to God the Father. Matthew 6:6 “But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.” They pray to Mary because they believe that she intercedes for us. This is not supported by any Scripture, but Scripture states that Jesus intercedes for us. Hebrews 7:25 “Therefore he is able to save completely those who come to God through him, because he always lives to intercede for them.” Romans 8:34 “Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.”

Without a doubt Mary was a blessed woman, but she was not perfect. Catholics believe that Mary never sinned. Again, this is not supported by any Scripture. Romans 3:23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God…” There is only one person that never sinned, and that person is Jesus. Hebrews 4:15 “For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are-yet was without sin.” 1 John 3:5 “And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.” 1 Peter 2:22 “‘He committed no sin, and no deceit was found in his mouth.’”

They believe that Mary was always a virgin, and had no children other than Jesus. Matthew 13:55-56 “Is not this the carpenter’s son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?” Mark 3:31 “There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him.” Matthew 12:46 “While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.” Catholics argue that when the Bible refers to brothers of Jesus, that these are spiritual brothers and not blood relatives. The following verses make a clear distinction between spiritual and blood brothers: Luke 8:19-21 “Now Jesus’ mother and brothers came to see him, but they were not able to get near him because of the crowd. Someone told him, ‘Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to see you.’ He replied, ‘My mother and brothers are those who hear God’s word and put it into practice.’” Jesus’ spiritual brothers are the ones who hear God’s word and put it into practice. Catholics also believe that Jesus used the word “brethen” or “brothers” when referring to His disciples. This is true in some cases, but in the following verses there is a definite distinction between Jesus’ brothes and His disciples. John 2:12 “After this he went down to Capernaum, he, and his mother, and his brethren, and his disciples: and they continued there not many days.” John 7:3 “His brethren therefore said unto him, Depart hence, and go into Judaea, that thy disciples also may see the works that thou doest.”

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Well thata your interpretation of it. Why should we accept it? Should we go with the personal interpretation of an anonymous poste rin an Internet forum or with the interpretation that was believed by all Christians for the first 1500 years after Christ died?
 
I wouldn’t be too quick to assume that. So far he has posted once per day.
We shall see - - Is he a true follower of Christ? Will he accept the challenge of Wisdom?🤷

James
If and when he does though he generally cut-and-pastes the observations from another website or forum. Based on his answers I don’t really think he even understands the information he is posting.
 
If and when he does though he generally cut-and-pastes the observations from another website or forum. Based on his answers I don’t really think he even understands the information he is posting.
That is certainly true. But he’s young. I’m regretting the “tsk, tsk, tsk” tone I took with him and commend others for their patience and charity. Fruits of the spirit, that.

JehuandGod – my apologies.
 
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