Do Catholics still support Trump

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they may vote for a candidate that supports abortion rights in spite of this.
we will have to agree to disagree. i understand the confusion. i can see both sides of the argument. i just found more preachers saying you can’t vote pro-abortion. ymmv
Because of this, you can hardly blame people for voting on other issues for which there is more likely to be some action, and thus, for which their vote matters.
you mean support of:

gay marriage?
trans gender issues
forcing little sisters of the poor to pay for the abortion pill?
mandating pro-life clinics to post abortion info?
forcing cooperation with the lgbtq…
sharia law
female genital mutilation
etc.etc.etc.

which issue do you support
 
Excuse me -

I didn’t say YOU posted it now, DID I?

I said that “delicate” little group known as the DEMOCRATS did.

And of course, the bullying name-calling always gives them away. Seriously hope many lawsuits result from their antics. Oh and boycotts. Which always work 👍
Are you saying the Democratic Party published this?
 
Feeding the hungry, giving drink to thirsty, welcoming the stranger, clothing the naked, tcaring for the sick, supporting the imprisoned.
we all support that

just in different ways.

i think the people can do a better job than the goverment

how do you justify the rest of the issues?
 
we all support that
Many do. But not all. And these are non-negotiable.
how do you justify the rest of the issues?
What does that mean? Why are you asking me to justify them?
Do you think that all of these issues political issues? Do you think that they are issues and entail evil acts? Your point is not clear to me.
 
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I would love to meet a Dem that didn’t try and force (via foisting, oh and taxation) their opinions onto others…

But I don’t believe they exist.
 
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we will have to agree to disagree. i understand the confusion. i can see both sides of the argument. i just found more preachers saying you can’t vote pro-abortion. ymmv
I agree to disagree, but I have generally found the people that say you can’t vote for supporters of abortion rights tend to be Catholic layman who have no authority and choose not to understand the USCCB’s voter’s guide and not actual priests.
 
They’re just looking for an excuse to vote Democrat. They can’t reconcile their Catholicism with their loyalty to the party, so they make excuses.
 
The man has gone from supporting abortion and a host of other evils and repented
Dont’ be ridiculous. He has not said or done anything to support that he has repented of anything. He changes his colors like a chameleon when it suits his goals. It is enough that he has not publicly supported abortion and a host of other evils. We need not presume that any inner transformation has occurred.
 
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Feeding the hungry, giving drink to thirsty, welcoming the stranger, clothing the naked, tcaring for the sick, supporting the imprisoned.
we all support that
Many do. But not all. And these are non-negotiable.
Non-negotiable?

What about dismembering babies in the womb or chemically poisoning them?

Oh, that’s negotiable, as long as a tacit agreement or tradeoff is made that a “sufficient” effort by someone, somewhere (specification not required) to welcome, feed, hydrate, clothe, care for, or support “others” in some undefined or nebulous way.

The tangible act of killing a human being is negotiable but the ideological commitment to vague generalities is non-negotiable?

🤨

What precise “support” is demonstrable by the “many,” distinguishable from the “not all” that do? Is it just with a nod or a wink that such support is shown and recognized? With a ballot marked D? Or by donning funny pink hats or by some other less conspicuous means?

At some point the entire masquerade becomes indistinguishable from farce.
 
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I agree to disagree, but I have generally found the people that say you can’t vote for supporters of abortion rights tend to be Catholic layman who have no authority and choose not to understand the USCCB’s voter’s guide and not actual priests.
On the other hand, there are “Catholic layman” who abdicate all personal responsibility for whatever moral rectitude and fortitude they may have accidentally acquired by turning it over to the culture at large (the world, the flesh and the devil) and then justify that lack of nobility and courage by waving a USCCB’s voter’s guide as if a pamphlet has the ability to divine deep moral issues far better than one’s own well- or ill- formed conscience.

The question isn’t one of moral authority, it IS one of moral responsibility.

Unless, of course, you are seeking to off-load your moral compass onto the nearest patsy who will carry it for you and then tell you with a complete lack of remorse which direction you ought to go. It sure turns an unbearable load into a tolerable one, when personal responsibility can be shirked at the same instance as it is “fulfilled.” 😇
 
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