Do Catholics still support Trump

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I still see trump doing an excellent job in the White House. Thank you POTUS., as a real Catholic Christian i will support you
 
upant said:
having a different way of addressing the issue doesn’t make it negotiable.
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Of course not. But saying that something will support the non-negotiable against strong evidence to the contrary should not be mistaken as genuine support.
upant said:
are they in line with church teaching?
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Surely you know the answer to that. Why ask me?
 
HarryStotle said:
Oh, that’s negotiable, as long as
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No one has said such a thing on this thread, or, AFAIK on this forum.

It is amazing to me that some people just cn’t seem to avoid putting words into other peopels’ mouths, then arguing as though those words really came from those other people.
HarryStotle said:
What precise “support”
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Time to go back and read some fundamentals.
DOCTRINAL NOTE on some questions regarding
The Participation of Catholics in Political Life
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/c...s/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20021124_politica_en.html
 
HarryStotle said:
Now take note: the LORD did NOT send a mob of raging citizens – wearing funny pink hats and suffering from David derangement syndrome – into the street and across the media world shouting, “David is not my king!” using an assortment of derogatory epithets.
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His grandson Rehobam, on the other hand?
 
MamasBoy33 said:
I keep hearing on this thread that trump hasn’t did a thing about him being pro-life
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I have not noticed that. Can you point to a post that says this?

What has been said, repeatedly, that engaging in pro-life activities is not proof that he has been inwardly transformed. Don’t get me wrong, I am ecstatic that he has supported the pro-life position.
MamasBoy33 said:
Thank you POTUS., as a real Catholic Christian i will support you
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You are implying that “real Catholic Christians” will support Trump. This is a narrow and disparaging attitude. Real Catholic Christians will support the agenda of Jesus Christ, whereever it is found. Supporting pro-live activities can, and should, be done at every opportunity. We don’t have to like or feel good about the persons supporting them. We don’t have to make wild and baseless assumptions about their motivies and sanctity.
 
Jig_Saw said:
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MamasBoy33:
I keep hearing on this thread that trump hasn’t did a thing about him being pro-life.
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Lifesitenews is rightwing, pope bashing garbage.
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That’s nonsense.

Why does your response always seem to be about characterization (or rather mischaracterization) rather than anything resembling real analysis?

Echoes of Rules for Radicals.
 
HarryStotle said:
That’s nonsense.

Why does your response always seem to be about characterization (or rather mischaracterization) rather than anything resembling real analysis?

Echoes of Rules for Radicals.
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It’s not nonsense. Lifesitenews is right wing propaganda (hence the award from Trump) and a Pope bashing site. The mods at LSN have banned commenters who like the Pope and also banned a commenter who said that the accusations against Roy Moore were credible.
 
HarryStotle said:
On the other hand, there are “Catholic layman” who abdicate all personal responsibility for whatever moral rectitude and fortitude they may have accidentally acquired by turning it over to the culture at large (the world, the flesh and the devil) and then justify that lack of nobility and courage by waving a USCCB’s voter’s guide as if a pamphlet has the ability to divine deep moral issues far better than one’s own well- or ill- formed conscience.

The question isn’t one of moral authority, it IS one of moral responsibility.

Unless, of course, you are seeking to off-load your moral compass onto the nearest patsy who will carry it for you and then tell you with a complete lack of remorse which direction you ought to go. It sure turns an unbearable load into a tolerable one, when personal responsibility can be shirked at the same instance as it is “fulfilled.” 😇
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I’m not sure how reading a document approved by the vast majority of US bishops and then weighing how to vote can be advocating moral responsibility. Maybe you should read it.
 
I do know Catholics who have said that it’s okay to vote for pro-abortion candidates (and have actually said, “No one’s telling me what to do with my body”…

And receive Communion. As they also say it’s between them and God.

Whereas 1 Corinthians 11 says those who receive our Lord’s Body and Blood unworthily will answer for them. So yes, a person can choose to be a tare among the wheat, but it isn’t a wise choice to make. (Matthew 13)
 
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dvdjs said:
It is amazing to me that some people just cn’t seem to avoid putting words into other peopels’ mouths, then arguing as though those words really came from those other people.
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Not that amazing, really. When so much double-speak, rhetorical word-play, and downright redefining of the meaning of words is the modus operandi it is difficult to resist the temptation to put words (and what they really mean) into the mouths of “those other people.”

What does “non-negotiable” really mean if it can be set on the back burner while other more esoteric “values” are simmering in the crock pot of social justice?
 
guanophore said:
Dont’ be ridiculous. He has not said or done anything to support that he has repented of anything.
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From NBC news:

I’ve never said I’m a perfect person, nor pretended to be someone that I’m not," Trump said.

“I’ve said and done things I regret, and the words released today on this more than a decade old video are one of them,” Trump said in the video statement.

"Anyone who knows me knows these words don’t reflect who I am. I said it, I was wrong and I apologize,” he said.
 
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