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2nd_Adam
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I was asking more in the lines about your motive of being here on Catholic Answers. Therefore, what is your motive for being here? Are you trying to rescue historic Christians from the great apostasy?
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dianaiad
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Wow.
I will concede the right of a forum moderator to ask this question of me…though none has. I think my purpose for being here is readily found in the 2800+ posts I have written in my 91/2 months of membership here.
It might be reasonable for a Catholic to ask me this, out of curiousity. I might even answer him or her.
As far as you are concerned, though, I note that you have done more evangelizing in your 1200+ posts and month and a half presence on this forum than I have done in nine and a half months…and for you, a Calvinist Protestant who has done some major criticizing of Catholicism, to suddenly align yourself with ‘historic Christianity’ and decide that you have the right to demand that I justify my presence here…to YOU…
Man.
That’s chutspah.
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When Catholics and Protestants are able to truly listen and hear each other, we are much closer than what most think. I would love to see ECT III start here on Catholic Answers. Some of the better Catholic Answers apologists are ex-Calvinist Protestants too.
seekgod.ca/ect3.htm
seekgod.ca/ect2.htm
The ECT Statement taken from Christianity Today, December 8, 1997, pp. 35-77
EVANGELICALS AND CATHOLICS TOGETHER: THE GIFT OF SALVATION
For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God sent the Son into the world, not to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved through him. (John 3:16-17)
We give thanks to God that in recent years many Evangelicals and Catholics, ourselves among them, have been able to express a common faith in Christ and so to acknowledge one another as brothers and sisters in Christ. We confess together one God, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit; we confess Jesus Christ the Incarnate Son of God; we affirm the binding authority of Holy Scripture, God’s inspired Word; and we acknowledge the Apostles’ and Nicene creeds as faithful witnesses to that Word.
Hey dianaiad,
As a die hard Mormon, why are you here again? I have discussed Mormonims with many Mormon missionaries. I understand the Mormon claim.
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dianaiad
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Chutspah squared.Hey dianaiad,
As a die hard Mormon, why are you here again? I have discussed Mormonims with many Mormon missionaries. I understand the Mormon claim.
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why_me
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Is the Finnish Luthern Church true followers of Christ?We give thanks to God that in recent years many Evangelicals and Catholics, ourselves among them, have been able to express a common faith in Christ and so to acknowledge one another as brothers and sisters in Christ. We confess together one God, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit; we confess Jesus Christ the Incarnate Son of God; we affirm the binding authority of Holy Scripture, God’s inspired Word; and we acknowledge the Apostles’ and Nicene creeds as faithful witnesses to that Word.
Hey dianaiad,
As a die hard Mormon, why are you here again? I have discussed Mormonims with many Mormon missionaries. I understand the Mormon claim.
I am not sure if that has always been true. I am sure that when Luther came on the scene, the catholic church was just a little annoyed with him. And lets face, Luther took many catholics with him. And I don’t think that Luther and the Pope at that time ever saw eye to eye.
Now however in the interest of ecumenicalism, all is well. However, protestantism with its women pastors, same sex marriages, pro-abortion policies, and liberal biblical interpretations is quite far from catholicism. Mormons are much closer to catholics in moral ideas than most protestant sects are.
I didn’t see the Lutherans or many of the liberal protestant sects allying themselves over Prop 8 in california with the mormons and catholics. One can not deny the major differences between catholicism and protestantism. And if catholics believe that they are united in christ with them, that would smack as an insult to catholics who believe their church is true and the protestant sects false.
When catholics embrace same sex marriage, women pastors, liberal interpretations of the bible, they will be closer to their brothers and sisters. But there are real differences.
Here is a report from Finland:
yle.fi/uutiset/news/2009/10/finlands_catholic_bishop_warns_of_rift_with_lutherans_over_gay_marriage_1074116.html
Teemu Sippo, Finland’s Catholic Bishop, says the issue of gay marriage will strain relations between Finland’s Catholic Church and the Finnish Evangelical Lutheran Church.
Sippo says he is concerned that Finland will follow the example of Sweden’s Lutheran Church, which is poised to perform religious ceremonies for same-sex couples.
Sippo, whose church is known for its conservatism, says marriage is a sacrament and not just an administrative issue.
“The Catholic Church cannot bless same-sex couples. It doesn’t view it as morally acceptable,” says Sippo. "Everything that happens in Sweden usually reaches Finland sooner or later.”
That said, Sippo also lashes out at the custom of Helsinki city and other organisations to distribute free condoms to youths.
“Handing out condoms is like telling people to use them. I believe youths should instead be encouraged to practice abstinence,” adds Sippo.
Teemu Sippo was ordained as the new Roman Catholic Bishop of the Catholic Church in Finland at Turku Cathedral last month. Teemu Sippo, aged 62, is the first Finnish-born Catholic Bishop since the Reformation.
Finland is home to only some 10,000 Catholics. The whole country forms one single diocese.
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why_me
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She is here to defend the lds church. If there were no posts about the lds church, she would not be here. It really is that simple. And she does have that right to defend the lds church.
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zerinus
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Mormonism is true; Catholicism is honorable; and Calvinism is an abomination (to both churches!)
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zerinus
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None of your business why she is here. One obvious reason is to debate with you—if you are up to the challenge that is.
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zerinus
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Thanks for the info. What I meant was that that was how it got started. Whether Russell intended or expected it to lead to that is another matter.
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zerinus
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I don’t think you have any business to ask that question of anybody here at all.
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zerinus
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Calvinism is still an abomination to both Catholics and Mormons alike!When Catholics and Protestants are able to truly listen and hear each other, we are much closer than what most think. I would love to see ECT III start here on Catholic Answers. Some of the better Catholic Answers apologists are ex-Calvinist Protestants too.
seekgod.ca/ect3.htm
seekgod.ca/ect2.htm
The ECT Statement taken from Christianity Today, December 8, 1997, pp. 35-77
EVANGELICALS AND CATHOLICS TOGETHER: THE GIFT OF SALVATION
For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God sent the Son into the world, not to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved through him. (John 3:16-17)
We give thanks to God that in recent years many Evangelicals and Catholics, ourselves among them, have been able to express a common faith in Christ and so to acknowledge one another as brothers and sisters in Christ. We confess together one God, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit; we confess Jesus Christ the Incarnate Son of God; we affirm the binding authority of Holy Scripture, God’s inspired Word; and we acknowledge the Apostles’ and Nicene creeds as faithful witnesses to that Word.
Hey dianaiad,
As a die hard Mormon, why are you here again? I have discussed Mormonims with many Mormon missionaries. I understand the Mormon claim.
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rcscwc
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Hmm. Rest your little mind in peace. Hindus do not have a Jesus. Period. If you want to imagine a Hindu Jesus, please suit yourself.
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Jehoshua
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Calvinism is certainly one of the more objectionable heresies around and about, although calling it an abomination is rather over the top id say.
Happy Diwali rcscwc and any other Hindu’s out there.
Happy Diwali rcscwc and any other Hindu’s out there.
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2nd_Adam
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The natural person (Mormons) does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one. “For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ. - The Holy BibleMormonism is true; Catholicism is honorable; and Calvinism is an abomination (to both churches!)
In light of the thread topic - Moromons do not have the Holy Spirit. For if the Holy Spirit dwelled in a Mormon, they would leave the Mormon Church.
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Does Hindusim believe that Jesus was a historic Person?
**The Hindu View of Jesus **
In contrast to some of the more recent religions, such as Islam and Baha’i, Hinduism does not refer to Jesus in its scriptures, and he plays no role in any of the classical Hindu mythology. Nevertheless, due to the contact with Christianity over the last few centuries, some Hindu thinkers have found a place for Jesus in their view. These considerations have taken the form of two particularly noteworthy ideas.
The first one is that Jesus was one of the incarnations (avatars) of God. Most Hindus believe that God, specifically Vishnu, took on human or animal forms at various times in order to perform certain feats that would preserve true Hindu teaching (the dharma). In this context, then, it has been argued that Jesus, along with Rama, Krishna, and others, was just one more divine self-embodiment. Whereas Christians generally believe that Jesus was the one and only incarnation of God, this view would hold that he was an incarnation, just not the only one.
The second way of trying to incorporate Jesus into Hinduism, not necessarily incompatible with the first, is to claim that Jesus learned the teachings which he later proclaimed in India. According to this notion, Jesus spent his so-called “silent years” between ages twelve and thirty at the feet of Hindu masters in India, and it is their teaching that he then proclaimed during his ministry. (See Did Jesus go to India as a child and learn from Hindu Gurus?) A Christian might respond to the second theory by pointing out that Christ’s teaching was, of course, nothing like Hinduism, so that if he had learned it in India, he either forgot it or modified it beyond recognition on the way back to Palestine. And this problem also vitiates the idea that Christ was an incarnation of Vishnu because he certainly did not teach the Hindu dharma. And finally, since Jesus claimed to be the only way to God, if his teaching was true, he could not have been one of several ways to God. Thus, the attempts by some Hindus to incorporate Jesus tend to be forced and not very helpful.
christiananswers.net/evangelism/beliefs/hinduism.html
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Augustine is linked to Calvinism in a very significant way within Reformed Theology.
monergism.com/directory/search.php?action=search_links_simple&search_kind=and&phrase=augustine&B1.x=36&B1.y=12
“The old truth that Calvin preached, that Augustine preached, that Paul preached, is the truth that I must preach to-day, or else be false to my conscience and my God. I cannot shape the truth; I know of no such thing as paring off the rough edges of a doctrine. John Knox’s gospel is my gospel. That which thundered through Scotland must thunder through England again.”—C. H. Spurgeon
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The natural person (Calvinists) does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one. “For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ. - The Holy Bible
In light of the thread topic - Calvinists do not have the Holy Spirit. For if the Holy Spirit dwelled in a Calvinist, they would leave Calvinism.
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2nd_Adam
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The natural person (Calvinists) does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one. “For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ. - The Holy Bible
In light of the thread topic - Calvinists do not have the Holy Spirit. For if the Holy Spirit dwelled in a Calvinist, they would leave Calvinism.
Mormonism is a religion based on being a copy cat!
The Smith’s family cat!
- No man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith. (Journal of Discourses, p289)
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Mormonism is true. It is God’s only true Church.Mormonism is a religion based on being a copy cat!
Catholics believe that Peter stands at the Pearly Gate, letting people in and out of heaven! Joseph Smith had the same authority that Peter had (in fact more!); so he is capable of doing anything that Peter does!
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Hey Catholic brothers and sisters, is that a true statement in regards to Peter?Mormonism is true. It is God’s only true Church.
Catholics believe that Peter stands at the Pearly Gate, letting people in and out of heaven! Joseph Smith had the same authority that Peter had (in fact more!); so he is capable of doing anything that Peter does!
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