Do Muslims Worship the True God?

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TonyBS said:
Yes quite has become quite exclusive 😉

Regards Tony
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There’s one God. So it is exclusive. Understanding his Love that is the Christian’s most valued reason to be full of Joy.

We believe in one God, the Father almighty Creator of Heaven and Earth, all things visible and invisible. A God that keeps his promises.

MJ
 
eddie_too said:
muslims, jews and all christians profess that there is only One God.

can we all agree on that?

if not, i will need more information to understand why some disagree with that.

however, muslims, jews and christians have been given different levels of insight in to the nature of the One God that all three profess.

it is the depth of the understanding, at least from what i have read here, that is being debated and not whether the three faiths profess that there is ONLY ONE GOD.

contrast what the non-monotheistic faiths believe about their gods with what the muslims, jews and christians believe. that may help us understand where Vatican II is coming from in its documents about the faith of the jews and the faith of the muslims.

clearly, being a Roman Catholic, i believe along with the magisterium that our understanding of the nature of the One God is both deeper and more complete than that of the muslims and jews. i would add that i also believe that the jewish understanding of the nature of the One God is both deeper and more complete than the muslim understanding.

still, we all three understand God to be One, and agree that among His attributes are that He is eternal, infinite, omnipotent, omniscient and the Creator of all things except sin and evil.

that is how i sort this question out. i guess that means my answer to the OP is yes, although the muslim understanding of the One God is not as deep as that of the jews and christians. the muslim understanding is far more primitive in the sense that it does not contain much, most(?), of the revelation given to jews and christians by God through His Prophets and ultimately through His Incarnate Son.

the most essential aspect of the revelation upon which all of the monotheistic faiths depend is that God is One. but, that is not the ONLY essential aspect of God’s revelation to mankind. also, essential, in the sense of being complete, are the following. that this Supreme and Perfect Being so loved the world that the Second Person of the Holy Trinity (who are the One God) entered in to it by assuming a human nature, thus subjecting Himself to all of the indignities that every human being shares as a consequence of living in a world that has fallen away from its Divinely given purpose so as to give us sinners a means to overcome our fallen natures and the hope that we can. the means He gave us to overcome our fallen natures is faith in the Incarnation and the Incarnation’s victory over death. this victory was made evident and complete through His raising His physical body from the dead and acquainting us with the glorified realm that awaits every human being.

note that neither the jewish faith or the muslim faith accept the complete revelation by God to mankind, but that does not mean they believe in a different God. they lack faith in the fullness of revelation that is the Incarnate Word and His victory over death.

even if the spirit that revealed islam to mohammed was a demon, it remains true that almighty God can advance His plan for mankind using even a demon. as a result of mohammed’s encounter with the spirit from which he received the koran, more than a billion people believe there is only One Supreme Being who is the Creator of all things and who is infinite, eternal, omnipotent and omniscient. that is very significant, at least as i see it.
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Have you ever think that Trinity is just a conjecture? And the way Christians believe in God is excessively! And Islam explain attributions of God most annotated and righteous!
 
MartinJordan said:
There’s one God. So it is exclusive. Understanding his Love that is the Christian’s most valued reason to be full of Joy.

We believe in one God, the Father almighty Creator of Heaven and Earth, all things visible and invisible. A God that keeps his promises.

MJ
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Yes all Promises are kept by God, we always tend to reject them.

Regards Tony
 
If you spend too much time trying to define one’s relationship with God, there’s a danger of starting to define God and that road leads to . . . .
 
hasantas said:
Have you ever think that Trinity is just a conjecture? And the way Christians believe in God is excessively! And Islam explain attributions of God most annotated and righteous!
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I like the way the Koran explains God.

I have enjoyed reading the Koran.

Regards Tony
 
TonyBS said:
Says Martin who makes random comment that was not warranted?
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CAF exists because we believe in A Loving God.
Martin you have been quite threatened lately have you?
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You have been posting many warnings.
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Please Lover of God and Christ, no need to be so uptight 👍
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God bless and be happy be happy be full of joy
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Love from.us all Regards Tony
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My heritage is Hindu not to worry. Thank you.

MJ
 
Kaninchen said:
If you spend too much time trying to define one’s relationship with God, there’s a danger of starting to define God and that road leads to . . . .
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I think we are quite wrong arguing about God in fact. Woops self is getting The better of me 😊

Regards Tony
 
Kaninchen said:
If you spend too much time trying to define one’s relationship with God, there’s a danger of starting to define God and that road leads to . . . .
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God is incomprehensible. That’s true. 🙂

MJ
 
MartinJordan said:
CAF exists because we believe in A Loving God.

My heritage is Hindu not to worry. Thank you.

MJ
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That’s great Martin, that is some spiritual journey you have taken. Good thing we have a whole life to sort it out - God bless, hot here in the Pacific need some rain badly! 👍

Regards Tony
 
TonyBS said:
Amen to that.

Regards Tony
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To clarify we are not doing things for him. That’s “Jesus only”. It’s much deeper than that.

In Mass we see understand that much more, everyday. Reminding ourselves that we all must do the Will of God. “Not my will but yours” 🙂

MJ
 
TonyBS said:
That’s great Martin, that is some spiritual journey you have taken. Good thing we have a whole life to sort it out - God bless, hot here in the Pacific need some rain badly! 👍

Regards Tony
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Our Spiritual journey is to do the Will of God. Our life journey is to **work out **our Salvation. The hard work already done by Jesus.

Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.” Amen!

MJ
 
Jesus taught that God was Three Persons in One Perfect Being.

since Jesus defeated sin and death in His raising His physical body from the dead, i fully believe everything He taught.

both muslims and bahai limit God in their faith systems.

they claim that God cannot join His divine nature to our human nature. i am uncertain why they believe that they can or should declare God unable to join His divine nature to our human nature perfectly and completely as He did in becoming the Incarnate Word.

they also limit His nature. they say He cannot be Three Perfect Persons who completely and fully share One Divine Nature. again, i am uncertain why their faith system seeks to impose this limitation on almighty God.

a third instance where their belief system seeks to limit God is by saying Jesus, the Second Person of the Holy Trinity made Incarnate, did not raise His physical body from the grave in a glorified state. again, i have no idea why they seek to limit God’s power in this way.
 
a bahai posts this,** “Please Lover of God and Christ, no need to be so uptight.”** to rebuke a faithful catholic for posting something affirming the great love God has for us human creatures, a love so great that He took on our human nature so that we could share in His divine nature.

my comment about this rebuke is amazement at the nonchalance with which the bahai dismisses the gift of salvation that is made possible ONLY THROUGH God becoming man in Jesus of Nazareth the Christ.

for a Roman Catholic, hell is very real and the greatest tragedy imaginable. thus, when a Roman Catholic is faced with beliefs that teach that concern for the salvation of immortal souls is being “uptight” the RC must speak out against such characterizations, mostly because they demonstrate profound ignorance about the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
 
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