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Benedictus2,
Thank you, kindly. It is good to be home, or more, to finally recognize I was home, but where it is or something. It is very good to be home. I should be more humble about it, but
squeals of joy
Wlychan64,
About 15 years ago, through my life understand and such, I felt a strong pull from God after a very hard childhood and then young adulthood. I had been raised Protestant and pushed it all aside after seeing harsh things, to become Zen. That pull brought me to Catholicism, but… I was afraid. I am not sure why, confession, the truth, reality… I was holding on to what was, then, safe. I finally left Zen (a great philosophy, a poor religion) and eventually made it to the Episcopalian faith. When I looked around that ‘church’, seeing the gay bishop, the atheist bishop, gay “marriage”, and many other problems, I finally came Home.
I have known almost all sins (I have never been gay or pedophilic, among a few other things, but…). I have sought philosophy, love of women (wrongly), and many lusts, greeds, and such (sins). Finally, one day, the call and the hunger for goodness overcame me. I knew and obeyed. And yet, I needed more learning. After I made contact with the Church, I offered reasons why I might not be accepted. My reasons were ignored and I was offered a hand. I took it, and bowed.
Even then, it was work. My first problem, in the Church, was letting Christ do his job. I would not let him forgive me. Finally, at this time, I have accepted my forgiveness, bowed most appropriately, and risen as a saint in hope. It is not a pretty story, but it is my story. I am now in love, with Christ and the Church. Anything else is secondary, including my call to matrimony. That is in God’s hands, as I have learned and accepted all things are in God’s hands.
I should add, somehow, all my life, I have been Catholic. I just did not realize the Church fit so closely to my real beliefs and what I understand fundamentally. I suppose that is part of why the Pope has always been considered holy by me. I guess I knew, I just did not understand that I knew where the feast and truth was held dear. Very thankfully, and currently, I know have it all together.
Thank you, kindly. It is good to be home, or more, to finally recognize I was home, but where it is or something. It is very good to be home. I should be more humble about it, but
squeals of joyWlychan64,
About 15 years ago, through my life understand and such, I felt a strong pull from God after a very hard childhood and then young adulthood. I had been raised Protestant and pushed it all aside after seeing harsh things, to become Zen. That pull brought me to Catholicism, but… I was afraid. I am not sure why, confession, the truth, reality… I was holding on to what was, then, safe. I finally left Zen (a great philosophy, a poor religion) and eventually made it to the Episcopalian faith. When I looked around that ‘church’, seeing the gay bishop, the atheist bishop, gay “marriage”, and many other problems, I finally came Home.
I have known almost all sins (I have never been gay or pedophilic, among a few other things, but…). I have sought philosophy, love of women (wrongly), and many lusts, greeds, and such (sins). Finally, one day, the call and the hunger for goodness overcame me. I knew and obeyed. And yet, I needed more learning. After I made contact with the Church, I offered reasons why I might not be accepted. My reasons were ignored and I was offered a hand. I took it, and bowed.
Even then, it was work. My first problem, in the Church, was letting Christ do his job. I would not let him forgive me. Finally, at this time, I have accepted my forgiveness, bowed most appropriately, and risen as a saint in hope. It is not a pretty story, but it is my story. I am now in love, with Christ and the Church. Anything else is secondary, including my call to matrimony. That is in God’s hands, as I have learned and accepted all things are in God’s hands.
I should add, somehow, all my life, I have been Catholic. I just did not realize the Church fit so closely to my real beliefs and what I understand fundamentally. I suppose that is part of why the Pope has always been considered holy by me. I guess I knew, I just did not understand that I knew where the feast and truth was held dear. Very thankfully, and currently, I know have it all together.
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wlychan64
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Thank you very much and I will go through your story carefully.Benedictus2,
Thank you, kindly. It is good to be home, or more, to finally recognize I was home, but where it is or something. It is very good to be home. I should be more humble about it, but
Wlychan64,
About 15 years ago, through my life understand and such, I felt a strong pull from God after a very hard childhood and then young adulthood. I had been raised Protestant and pushed it all aside after seeing harsh things, to become Zen. That pull brought me to Catholicism, but… I was afraid. I am not sure why, confession, the truth, reality… I was holding on to what was, then, safe. I finally left Zen (a great philosophy, a poor religion) and eventually made it to the Episcopalian faith. When I looked around that ‘church’, seeing the gay bishop, the atheist bishop, gay “marriage”, and many other problems, I finally came Home.
I have known almost all sins (I have never been gay or pedophilic, among a few other things, but…). I have sought philosophy, love of women (wrongly), and many lusts, greeds, and such (sins). Finally, one day, the call and the hunger for goodness overcame me. I knew and obeyed. And yet, I needed more learning. After I made contact with the Church, I offered reasons why I might not be accepted. My reasons were ignored and I was offered a hand. I took it, and bowed.
Even then, it was work. My first problem, in the Church, was letting Christ do his job. I would not let him forgive me. Finally, at this time, I have accepted my forgiveness, bowed most appropriately, and risen as a saint in hope. It is not a pretty story, but it is my story. I am now in love, with Christ and the Church. Anything else is secondary, including my call to matrimony. That is in God’s hands, as I have learned and accepted all things are in God’s hands.
I should add, somehow, all my life, I have been Catholic. I just did not realize the Church fit so closely to my real beliefs and what I understand fundamentally. I suppose that is part of why the Pope has always been considered holy by me. I guess I knew, I just did not understand that I knew where the feast and truth was held dear. Very thankfully, and currently, I know have it all together.
Best wishes
wlychan64
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benedictus2
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Oh Doom,Benedictus2,
Thank you, kindly. It is good to be home, or more, to finally recognize I was home, but where it is or something. It is very good to be home. I should be more humble about it, but
Wlychan64,
About 15 years ago, through my life understand and such, I felt a strong pull from God after a very hard childhood and then young adulthood. I had been raised Protestant and pushed it all aside after seeing harsh things, to become Zen. That pull brought me to Catholicism, but… I was afraid. I am not sure why, confession, the truth, reality… I was holding on to what was, then, safe. I finally left Zen (a great philosophy, a poor religion) and eventually made it to the Episcopalian faith. When I looked around that ‘church’, seeing the gay bishop, the atheist bishop, gay “marriage”, and many other problems, I finally came Home.
I have known almost all sins (I have never been gay or pedophilic, among a few other things, but…). I have sought philosophy, love of women (wrongly), and many lusts, greeds, and such (sins). Finally, one day, the call and the hunger for goodness overcame me. I knew and obeyed. And yet, I needed more learning. After I made contact with the Church, I offered reasons why I might not be accepted. My reasons were ignored and I was offered a hand. I took it, and bowed.
Even then, it was work. My first problem, in the Church, was letting Christ do his job. I would not let him forgive me. Finally, at this time, I have accepted my forgiveness, bowed most appropriately, and risen as a saint in hope. It is not a pretty story, but it is my story. I am now in love, with Christ and the Church. Anything else is secondary, including my call to matrimony. That is in God’s hands, as I have learned and accepted all things are in God’s hands.
I should add, somehow, all my life, I have been Catholic. I just did not realize the Church fit so closely to my real beliefs and what I understand fundamentally. I suppose that is part of why the Pope has always been considered holy by me. I guess I knew, I just did not understand that I knew where the feast and truth was held dear. Very thankfully, and currently, I know have it all together.
Thank you so very much for sharing that. But I have to tell you off! Your CAF name is not fitting. I think you should called JOY! I think you will be instrumental in making a lot of people know joy when by your witness you help guide them home.
How wonderful is our God!
Much Blessings for you and yours!
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Holly3278
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I don’t think that all Protestants hate Catholicism. In fact, I don’t think hardly any, if any, Protestants actually hate Catholicism. I think that some of them hate what they think Catholicism is but not what Catholicism truly is.
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wlychan64
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Dear benedictus2,
Recently, I have realised that the Anglian Church or the Church of England follows the Roman Catholic Church closely. Would you consider the Anglian Church is part of the Roman Catholic Church?
They have bishops and the Easter celebrations are almost identifcal to those of the Catholic church. Some of the services, they call it ‘holy mass’, too.
What is your view? Forgive me to raise this question if it will not antagonise you by any means
wlychan64
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No I do not get antagonized by sincere questions.
No the Anglican Church is not part of the Catholic Church because they separated from the Church in the 1500s. For a while nothing much changed in their theology but then later on I think they espoused more and more of Calvinist theology.
The following is purely my opinion. Today the Anglican communion is imploding. The low Anglicans in my opinion are more faithful to Christ than the High Anglicans who despite despite the regalia are actually further from Catholic Theology than the low Anglicans. The High Anglicans are the ones who are for women priests, actively gay priests and approve of homosexuality.
This is not surprising considering that of all the mainline protestant groups I think this one was born from sin. The Anglican was born from Henry VIII desire to divorce so he caused a divorce from the Church. An Anglican friend of mine was actually the one who phrased it in this way and yet he remains Anglican in spite of the fact that he acknowledges that the origin of his church is quite unsavoury. At least Luther actually had a sincere desire to reform at the beginning and was really concerned about the bad practices in the Church of his day. Not so the Anglicans.
It must be noted too that they were the ones (in the Lambeth Conference of 1930) who first approved contraception. We see now the evil that that has brought about.
Theri celebration are **almost **identical but it is not identical. For one they (or at least some depending on which faction you happen to belong) do not believe that Christ is really, truly, substantially present in the Eucharist.
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Could not have said it better:thumbsup:What someone realy should do is find out why they think you will go to hell for beleiveig in God and Christ and giving reference to the saints? The thing is,** they fear the unknown** they listen to what others say and then follow because they have no mind if their own and thats what causes wars and strife. Forgive them Father for they know not what they do.
Love of Christ Nancy
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I am so happy I finally got to read your poem.:extrahappy:Hello I said i’d be back this poem is realy for everyone and it’s my Easter poem i wrote awhile back. Faith is the Key
Who will tarry with me for a while? Who will stand in the gap, as i go thruogh my trial?
They all were asleep, and His Spirit did groan,Our Lord Christ the Saviour, prayed to God all alone.
He wept in the garden, tears of blood filled His eyes,And soon came the soldiers, with tourches,swords,and cries-
Where is he,who says he’s a heavenly being? Where’s this Jesus who claims he’s the son of the King?"
They took him to pilot who found no sin in Him.Still the crowd had cried out,“Crucify! Crucify Him!”
So they scourged Him and beat Him and made Him a crown-Then they spit on His face,as the blood trickled down,And they tore off His clothes,and robed Him in red
As they pushed down on the crown of thorns on His head.
And they built Him a cross to carry up hill-As He stumbled and fell, they beat on Him still.
When finally His walk had come to an end,They drove nails through the hands and feet of a friend.
His whole body ached and His heart broke in two- It literally broke,for He loved me and you.
His royal blood dripped down from His face,As He hung there to die for the whole human race.
His eyes looked on sadly as the crowd had cheered on, And at the third hour,they knew He was gone.
The earth shook and trembled and darkness was deep, As the graves were all opened,of ones past in sleep.
The crowd all ran swiftly,and a voice did declare"Twas Christ the Messiah that hung and died there!"
So like the third hour the third day He arose,and appeared in the garden in sparkling white clothes.
He smiled as He stood there,in white clothes adorned.He looked like a new man who’d just been reborn.
To those who had seen Him, There was no disbelief. To those who betrayed Him their hearts were in grief.
To those who believe, yet their eyes did not see;Their faith is their blessing for FAITH IS THE KEY! BY NANCY DALRYMPLE 5-18-94 Have a Blessed Easter to you all!
The links you sent me before did not work.
Truly, beautiful Nancy. Truly beautiful.
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JustaServant
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Whole thread answered in one paragraph.
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wlychan64
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Thanks.
Tell me one more thing please. What is Lambeth Conference 1930?
Also, despite of the bad start of the Church of England, their practice is very much like the Roman Catholic Church? what is your view?
Once again, thanks for your sharings
Wlychan64
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Erbey
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As far as I’m concerned, Prots aren’t even Christian! The odasity to protest our Lords Holy Catholic Church is not only lunacy but deadly (spiritually).
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JustaServant
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That’s not right. Not all Protestants can be painted with the same attitude. The people in the photo are extremists, plain and simple.
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Erbey
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I know what you mean but they all paint us with the same brush across the board and been very successful by doing so. As if placing us into the category of a cult status. I don’t know about you brother but I’m kind of sick and tired of it and I fight back (with hardcore apologetics) when I’m aprroached in a malicious manner by Prots. Especially, when you have anti-catholics on TV attacking the Catholic Church about our teachings like John Hagee and every other raving heretic! I’m sorry brother but as you can see I’m fed up with Protestantism.
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Roman_Catholic_1
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Hello Erbey, welcome to the fourms.
While I respect your opinion and your zeal, I cannot agree with them.
Our Church teaches that Protestants are most definately Christian through their baptisms and are members (though imperfectly) of the Catholic Church.
From the Catechism:
We must be careful, when defending the Church, that we do not become those who we are defending the Church against. We should not defend agaist anti-Catholicism by becoming anti-protestant.
Though I am not fan of Nietzsche he has a good quote about this:
*Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you. *
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
Welcome to the forums and God bless you!
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JustaServant
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Believe me, I know of what you speak. Read about my reversion on my blog.
TV preachers represent a tiny part of Christian culture. There are Protestants in mainline denominations who might have disagreements with Catholics, but who could not be said to be anti-Catholic.
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I don’t think Protestants hate Catholics but sometimes as I have been a Catholic for 50yr Catholic School the whole nine yard we as Catholics feel we are the only one’s that are going to Heaven because we are Catholics so some tend to give an attitude when they find out certain people are not Catholic. I have many Protestant friends and I have many friends that need not know my Religion because I think it is by our actions we show Jesus in us " By your fruits you will know them" These are just my opinions and my thoughts. We are all God’s Children.
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Jerry_Marino
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why don’t you all realize what Jesus is speaking of in this part of the Bible?
i’ve never addressed this when posed the question on this part of Scripture but what is Jesus talking about?
no one is righteous so i guess we are all goats.
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Appleby
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Do they hate catholics or just find firm rules to be too confining?
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Ferde_Rombola
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It’s written in plain language, Jerry and I know what he’s talking about. Are you in any doubt about what Jesus is talking about in that passage?
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