blackforest
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Citation, please.
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1ke
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He may have escorted her down the aisle but he did not give her away, because that is NOT part of the marriage rite.
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Fauken
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Yup, they were sarcastic. This response though is not.
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Margaret_Ann
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IIRC, Ephesians 5: 22-33 & 1 Tim.
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felsguy
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This “custom” did occur in some parishes in the past and may still be done in some but it was/is no more part of the Catholic Rite of Marriage than was the “custom” was thowing rice on the couple as they exited the church.
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on_the_hill
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RoseScented
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When my parents were married my mother was given away by her non-Catholic father, I never knew if the priest allowed it to prevent family tensions. All of my friends who have been married in the past 8 years have processed in with their fiances. My current Latin Rite parish requests that the couple process in together, but will allow parents to walk in with their children. The parents can walk their children in, but they have to head to their pew instead of proceeding to the altar with their children.
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on_the_hill
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No, I’m under the authority of no one, with the possible exception of God.
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felsguy
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felsguy:
NO! and NO!
Yup, they were sarcastic. This response though is not.
I’m a little slow on the uptake tonight PLUS seems like it can be hard to tell sometimes here on CAF.
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Hume
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“A father has a son until he finds a wife,
But a father has a daughter until the end of his life.”
I may have messed that up a bit, but that’s roughly how it goes.
I thought I was kidding at first, but I’m not so sure.
But a father has a daughter until the end of his life.”
I may have messed that up a bit, but that’s roughly how it goes.
I thought I was kidding at first, but I’m not so sure.
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on_the_hill
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I think that’s only because the daughter chooses to be her daddy’s girl. You might want her to be there with you, but you’ve got to work to hold onto her.
And believe me, sometimes it takes work.
And believe me, sometimes it takes work.
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Margaret_Ann
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That’s awesome!
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1ke
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What was allowed was that the father escort the bride down the aisle. There was no actual giving away. Because that’s not in the rite.
The rite calls for the bride and groom to process together but allows parents to escort.
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RoseScented
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I mean, call it what you want, but when my grandfather takes my mother’s hand in front of the altar, places it in my father’s hand, clasps their hands together, and tells him that she’s now his to take care of that sure does look like he “gave her away”.RoseScented:
What was allowed was that the father escort the bride down the aisle. There was no actual giving away. Because that’s not in the rite.
The rite calls for the bride and groom to process together but allows parents to escort.
I’m not arguing that it’s part of the Rite, but I won’t say that it hasn’t happened when it shouldn’t have.
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Margaret_Ann
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My late father would agree with you 
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RoseScented
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Is there usually a formal way of saying it then? Any of the weddings I’ve gone to for Protestant friends (Baptist and Methodist) had the fathers doing generally the same thing. It wasn’t a big show, but it was audible to the congregation. Maybe I just haven’t run into the right denominations for it then.
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twf
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Yes, it’s definitely traditional Church teaching that the wife is under the spiritual authority of her husband…certainly. (What that means is a topic for another thread). But I do not accept that it’s traditional Church teaching that adult women are under the authority of their father. It may have been the case culturally and even legally in many locales… but it’s not Church doctrine. It’s not part of the marriage rite. You still haven’t explained how nuns factor into this.
How does a 70 year old Abbess factor into your theology?
How does a 70 year old Abbess factor into your theology?
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on_the_hill
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I refuse to accept the authority.
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Hume
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Just thinking out loud, the abbess “married” the church?
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Margaret_Ann
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The father is the spiritual head of the household because he is (or should be) the living icon of Christ. The same applies to the husband.
Most men have abdicated their responsibility as spiritual head of the house, leaving it to the wife or mother to teach the Catholic Faith to the children.
Now if the father is non-Catholic and the mother is Catholic, it becomes harder to teach the children the Faith. Why? Because they don’t have their father’s example.
Most men have abdicated their responsibility as spiritual head of the house, leaving it to the wife or mother to teach the Catholic Faith to the children.
Now if the father is non-Catholic and the mother is Catholic, it becomes harder to teach the children the Faith. Why? Because they don’t have their father’s example.
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