Do you believe everything the Catholic Church teaches?

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I have heard the “pick and choose” Catholics called “cafeteria catholics”!! It is really annoying and bad for us believers to have people out there calling themselves Catholics when they are gay and receiving communion or pro-abortion or using birth control or shacking up—it is confusing to people who may be interested in the church talking with the cafeteria catholics who don’t follow the basic tenets of the church. If you call yourself a Catholic, you should try your best to follow the Magisterium.
 
I will be praying for all who believe everything the catholic church teaches. I will pray that your eyes will some day be opened to the truth of God’s word and in the men who leading there flock astray.
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oudave:
I will be praying for all who believe everything the catholic church teaches. I will pray that your eyes will some day be opened to the truth of God’s word and in the men who leading there flock astray.
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And I will be praying that you stay on this forum and open up your heart to the Holy Spirit and you PM me when you find out that the Catholic Church is correct.GOD BLESS
 
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Lisa4Catholics:
And I will be praying that you stay on this forum and open up your heart to the Holy Spirit and you PM me when you find out that the Catholic Church is correct.GOD BLESS
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:amen:
 
Do you believe everything the Catholic Church teaches?
Yes, I do believe!
 
I regularly have to check my cathechism. Though I struggle at times with the incredible. I ultimately come to accept what the Church teaches. The fact is, there is nowhere else to go to find such things out. I’m a smart enough person, but I’ve given up trying to justify my disagreements by research. I do believe in the Fathers goodness, and that means trusting him to feed me. Nuff said.
 
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oudave:
I will be praying for all who believe everything the catholic church teaches. I will pray that your eyes will some day be opened to the truth of God’s word and in the men who leading there flock astray.
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I pray also for you, and for everyone like you.

So, then… does this mean you can’t answer the above challenges?
 
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wonkimoto:
I regularly have to check my cathechism. Though I struggle at times with the incredible. I ultimately come to accept what the Church teaches. The fact is, there is nowhere else to go to find such things out. I’m a smart enough person, but I’ve given up trying to justify my disagreements by research. I do believe in the Fathers goodness, and that means trusting him to feed me. Nuff said.
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I’m with you, Brother! Some have the time to do scholarly research on the Church Fathers, Greek/Hebrew/Latin comparisons of the Scripture, etc. If I had to do research to defend every disagreement, my kids wouldn’t eat!

For me, I rely on the Bible, the Catechism and the The Rule of St. Benedict (recently added) with lots of prayer and Eucharist. In my spare time, I like to read light works by scholars like Dr. Hahn, but that’s about as scholarly as I get.

Oh…and of course it’s useful to have tracts at www.catholic.com 😃 .

God Bless,

Robert.
 
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oudave:
I will be praying for all who believe everything the catholic church teaches. I will pray that your eyes will some day be opened to the truth of God’s word and in the men who leading there flock astray.
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Matt. Ch. 7

  1. ]3] Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s* eye**, but do not notice the log that is in your own** eye**?
    ]4] Or how can you say to your brother, `Let me take the speck out of your* eye**,’ when there is the log in your own** eye**?
    ]5] You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own* eye**, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s** eye**.

    Luke Ch. 10:
    16] “He who hears you hears me, and he who rejects you rejects me, and he who rejects me rejects him who sent me.”

    WHo do you hear?
 
Nope, I think the Catholic Church has very closed views on things…
 
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AmericanAtheist:
Nope, I think the Catholic Church has very closed views on things…
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As closed as denying the existence of things one can not understand?
 
Do you believe everything the Catholic Church teaches?
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I sure as* hell* don’t want the alternitive. Get it? 'twas a pun. I’m funny!!! :rotfl:

maybe not. :nope:
 
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WhatIf:
Matt. Ch. 7

  1. ]3] Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s* eye**, but do not notice the log that is in your own** eye**?
    ]4] Or how can you say to your brother, `Let me take the speck out of your* eye**,’ when there is the log in your own** eye**?
    ]5] You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own* eye**, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s** eye**.

    Luke Ch. 10:
    16] “He who hears you hears me, and he who rejects you rejects me, and he who rejects me rejects him who sent me.”

    WHo do you hear?
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  1. I hear the word of God and not changing traditions of man, How can you go wrong by following God’s word? I dont reject the words of Jesus, I infact hold them in my heart because he will guide me thru anything.

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oudave said:
I hear the word of God and not changing traditions of man, How can you go wrong by following God’s word? I dont reject the words of Jesus, I infact hold them in my heart because he will guide me thru anything.
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You can allege all you want about changing traditions of men my dear friend, but our beliefs and practices go all the way back to the apostles and the NT…anyone who rejects the Catholic Church rejects all 2,000 years of Christainity and substitutes in its place the traditions of men and doctrines of men that cannot be traced any farther back than 487 years ago…(some are a great deal newer than that even), when they were all brand new.
 
It all depends on what one regards as “teaching.”

For example, I don’t believe that Jesus was born in a miraculous fashion. I think that that is “error.” Yet, many claim that that is Church “teaching.”
 
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BibleReader:
It all depends on what one regards as “teaching.”

For example, I don’t believe that Jesus was born in a miraculous fashion. I think that that is “error.” Yet, many claim that that is Church “teaching.”
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There’s nothing miraculous about a virgin birth?
 
Absolutely, without question, 100% of every single word of every single teaching of the Church.
  1. Every question of Christian faith comes down to a single contention - authority. This makes things very easy. The Church claims to teach with the authority of the Holy Spirit as promised by Jesus Himself. If you believe in the authority of the Church, you have a big problem if you don’t believe in everything the Church teaches. For example, if you have a problem with the Eucharist, you have a problem with the Church’s authority to interpret scripture. If you have a problem with the Assumption, you have a problem with the Church’s authority to hold onto and pass down the teachings given to us by Sacred Tradition. If you have a problem with birth control, you have a problem with the Church’s authority to teach on faith and morals.
  2. The simple historical truth is that the Catholic Church is the Church Jesus founded on the “rock” - His chief disciple, our first Pope. The earliest Christians were Catholic in faith and discipline, and after not too long in actual name, and the succession of Popes and the maintenance of the teachings of the Church fathers shows that the Church is historically continuous. The Church has existed intact for almost 2000 years without changing any beliefs or making up anything new. This is a record I simply cannot see any sense in arguing with - people are not physically capable of this kind of organization alone. It isn’t like the Church has been run by 2000 years of idiots operating on their own; instead it has operated in every generation with doctorate-level theologians under the constant guidance of the Holy Spirit. Jesus is the only perfect theologian who has ever lived, yet He needed His teachings to last to the end of the world - how else to do this than to found His Church and give the Holy Spirit as its guide?
  3. The New Testament is our greatest gift from Sacred Tradition. The canon was chosen from myriad writings available at the time as those which best conformed to the beliefs of the Catholic Church, which until that time was working strictly by Tradition - the teachings of the apostles, who had been taught by Jesus, and had in turn handed down these teachings to/through the bishops. There were many writings which were rejected, even though they claimed apostolic authorship, because the bishops knew from Tradition that the apostles didn’t really teach what were in these writings. Someone mentioned “circular logic” earlier - sola scriptura, or any attempt to interpret scripture outside of the authority of the Church, is the worst kind of “circular logic.” Sola scripturists and other self-interpreters are trying to usurp a Catholic document and use it against us - as though we’d put it together so it could prove we were wrong. The only way to “prove” a Catholic doctrine wrong using scripture is to misinterpret scripture. Sola scripturists cannot agree on anything - is this how Jesus intended His teachings to last to the end of the world? Catholics who faithfully follow the Church’s teachings can agree on everything, and we are truly one as our Lord intended.
to be continued…
 
part II…

My journey began with faith. I was “born Catholic” and was baptized, but was not raised Catholic (or anything else). Jesus was always somewhere in my heart - I somehow knew He was there, but I didn’t know Him at all. I think now that this was the grace I received at baptism, which kept me open to the possibility of answering the call to faith. A few years ago (in my late 30s), I fell in love with Jesus and he saved me from a great fall. I then had to choose how to best worship Him, and of course most of the available choices were the myriad “Bible churches” which abound in the South. Although I was temporarily tempted by these people, it did not take very much research to come to the conclusion that the Catholic Church was indeed the Church Jesus Himself had founded. The design, like the design of the universe itself, was perfect and had passed the test of time against the most insurmountable odds - how could this be manmade?? Once I accepted that this was Jesus’ true Church, I immediately accepted all of its teaching as my beliefs - whether or not I knew where they came from, whether or not I could quote scripture to support them, whether or not I thought I would have come up with them myself given the available evidence, and whether or not I understood them the first time I heard them. Since the Church came by its teachings so honestly - by learning from Jesus Himself or from his apostles, who knew His teachings first-hand and were inspired by the Holy Spirit to remember and pass on His teachings - I do not feel the smallest qualm in accepting a teaching that I might not fully understand, because it comes from someone who is more theologically astute than I am.

This attitude is yet to fail me - with enough study and prayer I have been able to find enough evidence to satisfy my curiosity on every single Catholic teaching I’ve looked into, and I have not found a single piece of convincing evidence that I should doubt a word of what the Church teaches. I’ve been blessed to be able to teach RCIA for the past three years, and I’ve heard a lot of disparate beliefs, but I always try to remember that we are always teaching from the high ground. Our beliefs don’t need to be defended, because they can’t be disproved. I’ve given up trying to reinvent the wheel - I don’t bother digging too deeply anymore in historical evidence. Simple faith and a little study help me to understand any teaching, and if someone comes up with a definite refutation of a Catholic teaching, it’ll be such big news that we’ll all hear about it. Until that time, I’ll just contentedly and blessedly do the sheep thing. Baaaaa!
 
There’s nothing miraculous about a virgin birth?
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If by that you mean a woman who never had sex giving birth, of course that is miraculous.

Unfortunately, that is not what the Catholic “in-partu-ites” mean.

When the “in-partu-ites” say that Jesus was “miraculously born,” they mean that Jesus somehow emerged from Mary in a mystical, non-bloody fashion – basically, to use blunt, modern colloquial terminology, that He “beamed down” out of Mary. They maintain that this occurred, because they “Platonize” Mary’s virginity to an extreme, saying that she was SO much of a virgin, at all moments in time, that even in giving birth her tissues were not in any way broken.

I believe that one of the theologians running this site championed the perspective, which I believe contrary to the Catholic Bible.
 
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oudave:
I hear the word of God and not changing traditions of man, How can you go wrong by following God’s word? I dont reject the words of Jesus, I infact hold them in my heart because he will guide me thru anything.

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Look at that verse again.

Luke Ch. 10:
16] “He who hears you hears me, and he who rejects you rejects me, and he who rejects me rejects him who sent me.”

Look at the pronouns. There is “He”. There is “me”. There is “you”. There is “him who sent me”. This means there is 4 persons, right? If you want me to have any understanding or even trust that you can interpret the Bible, then please offer an explanation for how to interpret, who the he is, who the me is, who the “you” is and who the “him who sent me” is in Luke Ch. 10, verse 16.

My explanation: He is anyone listening. “You” is those people that Jesus was speaking to - 70 disciples. “me” is Jesus. “him who sent me” is God.

So, did Jesus say He who rejects me, rejects him who sent me? NO, this verse says He who rejects YOU, rejects me.

Explain that. You have far more experience in interpretting scripture, but you have not yet attempted to tell me your interpretation of this verse. You simply jumped to your opinion on who to listen to instead of explaining scripture. You can not go wrong following God’s word, but do you listen to the Word of God? Do you see that Jesus himself is giving us the “responsibility” to listen to the 70 people (disciples?, Priests?) that he has sent out or else it will be considered a rejection of God? If not, how do you see this verse. Not your tradition of who to listen to, but your interpretation of scripture. I’m listening. PM me if you want.
 
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