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esieffe
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Yes I do, I worked for one for an entire year once. Thankfully, the mother ship called him back to New Jersey.
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mikekle
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We reached peak oil back in the 1970s, so we wont be on oil too much longer no matter what we do, but in 1000 yrs, Im positive there will be another source of power that we do not know about right now, that is what progress is all about after all.Given our burgeoning population and dwindling natural resources, how advanced will we be in 1,000 years?
How much more oil do you think is left in them thar wells?
Actually, I believe they probably already have the ability to use other sources of power today, but the problem is, alot of people are making alot of money on oil, so of course they arent going to just throw that away for something else, especially something that people can get for free or cheaper than oil related products, such as gas, diesel, etc.
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mikekle
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Exactly, plus, they are now saying life may exist on one of Jupiters moons, Europa.
I know alot of people use distance as a reason to debunk alien life coming here, but the problem with that is, we are thinking in human terms, and thinking in ‘2014’ terms…its highly probable in the future, new discoveries and advancements will be made that put most of these concerns to rest.
Right now, we still rely on brute force to get our aircraft around and our vehicles into space, we strap a vehicle made for space travel onto a HUGE rocket filled with solid fuel, because we dont know any other way to get up there, same thing with our cars on the road, we use brute force to get them moving, fuel in the engines, internal combustion to turn a shaft…but this is ONLY our current technology, it wont be around forever and probably not too much longer, eventually new things will come and replace them.
Just think of what people living back in the mid 1800s would think if they saw a modern day sports car…they would think its something from another planet, but really, its only a vehicle made a little over 100 yrs into the future, so of course, right now, in 2014, we cant let our minds grasp anything other that what we know…but just like the people living 100 yrs ago, we will be advance and progress and if we saw what they are to be using in 2114, we probably would think its some alien craft!
Then take that a step further, instead of seeing what they are using in 2114, now think of what they will be using in 2514…if we saw this today, we probably would say its not possible or even magic, but really, its only a product of progress, just another machine made to take us places, but instead of using brute force, eventually new methods will be found and used…thats only natural…This is why aliens are able to come here and travel so far, their technology is MUCH greater than ours, but we cannot understand it, so we say its impossible.
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mikekle
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Why are there so many Govt and military documents that reference or mention them then?
meltzerboy
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Which government and military documents do you mean? Not that I am opposed to the possibility or even probability of intelligent alien life.
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Charlemagne_III
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The distance across the Milky Way is 100,000 light years. A light year is six trillion miles.
Do the math. No matter what marvelous new travel technologies are developed, you can eliminate reaching hundreds of thousands, probably millions, of those possible worlds that might contain life. God made our solar systems so far apart for a reason.
meltzerboy
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So you don’t believe in the possibility of intergalactic war then, except on video games?The distance across the Milky Way is 100,000 light years. A light year is six trillion miles.
Do the math. No matter what marvelous new travel technologies are developed, you can eliminate reaching hundreds of thousands, probably millions, of those possible worlds that might contain life. God made our solar systems so far apart for a reason.
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Charlemagne_III
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Unless they are fast approaching us, not in my lifetime!
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simpleas
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Have you seen the creatures that have been discovered in the deepest parts of the sea? They look pretty alien to me! Then again we probably look pretty alien to them!!
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Peebo
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God is a creator…he created the universe…he created us…he created us out of his infinite love…why would anyone not believe that he not only created…and continues to create other beings out of that same infinite love …my idea of heaven is that we will be witness to the majesty of God creating life through out this vast universe and we will not only be witness to the evolution of species but also of the cosmos itself, for all eternity
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Charlemagne_III
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Yeah. That oughta keep us busy!…my idea of heaven is that we will be witness to the majesty of God creating life through out this vast universe and we will not only be witness to the evolution of species but also of the cosmos itself, for all eternity
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TheSeeker2014
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If they are out there, which I personally think they probably are given space is so vast, they would more than likely be God’s hosts and the fallen.Sorry if this is in the wrong section.
Personally, I do. Whether or not they’re like us, I don’t know or care. They could be like us, a fallen race in need of a savior. God could have saved them in a different way than he saved us, or used a very similar way to save them. Maybe they are not a fallen race and need no savior. Maybe Christ’s death on the cross was for all intelligent beings and humans are the Evangelizers of the universe. Or God could have told them about his death already so they know about it. Maybe all aliens reject God, and humans are the only ones who accept. Maybe there is life out there but humans are the only intelligent life in the universe, and all other life is like animals. Or maybe there aren’t aliens at all (which I doubt seeing the universe is so big and there has to be other life out there.)
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I’ve been studying this subject for many years. My conclusion: all UFOs are man-made. The “aliens” cover story keeps the public just where the government/military wants us - not asking questions. I have a large library of books and articles. We have the technology. The point is: don’t let your enemies think you do. Or the public. Those who operate this technology exist in a “need to know world,” and others, including those in the military who are not cleared to know, do not need to know. And some have been told the cover story as well or simply release statements that are inaccurate.
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tabycat
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Yes!! As for ufo’s, don’t know. 
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wcknight
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the vastness of the universe, makes aliens almost a certainty. However, the enormous distances between us and the nearest stars even in our own galaxy, makes it extremely unlikely that we will ever see any in our lifetimes.
IF they are out there, their technology will likely be millions of years more advanced than ours. Considering our ‘modern age’ is only a few hundred years old… think about what it would be like many thousands of years from now… if we make it that long… odds are we will have blown ourselves up long before them.
IF they are out there, their technology will likely be millions of years more advanced than ours. Considering our ‘modern age’ is only a few hundred years old… think about what it would be like many thousands of years from now… if we make it that long… odds are we will have blown ourselves up long before them.
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edwest2
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Interesting. We went from the Wright Brothers’ first flight in 1903 to jet fighters and bombers, the world’s first cruise missile and ballistic rocket used in combat, and the first atomic bomb by 1945. All that is needed is a space drive that uses the electromagnetic energy that already permeates the universe. What energy source keeps an electron in orbit around its nucleus? The answers are there. Radio waves travel at the speed of light. There may be beings with this technology and life spans greater than our own.
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mikekle
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So, if they have this super duper technology, why would they keep it completely hidden and not use it on anything? I just watched a special about the newest, most advanced, expensive fighter jet, the F35, this is a quarter billion dollar plane, yet it is still loud as can be, still cannot come close to the abilities of the ‘UFOs’ people are seeing all over the world on a daily basis.
What good is this technology if they will not use it? Plus, if the US has the technology, its almost a given at least some other nations have it, or some version of it…but I never hear about such things being used in any battles in modern times.
I also wonder why NASA and other agencies are not going further into space if they have such technologies, most of the UFOs people see have crazy abilities, Id think NASA would be first in line to at least try out some of these on a space vehicle…but maybe they are…what do I know?LOL Maybe they do have some secret space vehicle that is out there now, traveling half the speed of light, ‘wrapping’ space around the craft, so they can travel vast distances in hours…that theory may not be so crazy, It seems Ive heard theories about the US truly having a sort of ‘space fleet’ that is kept super secret, but with YOUtube and the internet in general, really, how long could they keep this a secret from everyone…not very long imo, so…???
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GaryTaylor
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The Edwards Air Force Base UFO incident in Oct 65 is pretty remarkable. I know someone stationed at George AFB when it occurred which is very close. The base’s were placed on full alert.
Its one thing when civilians report sightings, its another when the entire west coast military and radar is on point with numerous eye witness accounts and multiple recordings.
I don’t know about aliens, the UFOs are a fact of life. Who operates them is unknown.
The entire incident was documented with written reports, radar photos, and audio made by Air Force personnel while they were actually viewing the objects, flying after the objects, and considered taking action against the perceived threat.
If you think they were man made on earth listen to the eyewitness account of Capt Clark as he was scrambled and chased them. They made a right turn and disappeared into “outer space” on him.
Sgt Chuck Sorrels Air Traffic Controller in the tower at Edwards on Oct 7th 1965 3rd shift.
Its one thing when civilians report sightings, its another when the entire west coast military and radar is on point with numerous eye witness accounts and multiple recordings.
I don’t know about aliens, the UFOs are a fact of life. Who operates them is unknown.
The entire incident was documented with written reports, radar photos, and audio made by Air Force personnel while they were actually viewing the objects, flying after the objects, and considered taking action against the perceived threat.
If you think they were man made on earth listen to the eyewitness account of Capt Clark as he was scrambled and chased them. They made a right turn and disappeared into “outer space” on him.
Sgt Chuck Sorrels Air Traffic Controller in the tower at Edwards on Oct 7th 1965 3rd shift.
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mikekle
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Thats an interesting report, I agree about certain witnesses, I think we should all stand up and take notice when trained military report something like this.The Edwards Air Force Base UFO incident in Oct 65 is pretty remarkable. I know someone stationed at George AFB when it occurred which is very close. The base’s were placed on full alert.
Its one thing when civilians report sightings, its another when the entire west coast military and radar is on point with numerous eye witness accounts and multiple recordings.
I don’t know about aliens, the UFOs are a fact of life. Who operates them is unknown.
The entire incident was documented with written reports, radar photos, and audio made by Air Force personnel while they were actually viewing the objects, flying after the objects, and considered taking action against the perceived threat.
If you think they were man made on earth listen to the eyewitness account of Capt Clark as he was scrambled and chased them. They made a right turn and disappeared into “outer space” on him.
Sgt Chuck Sorrels Air Traffic Controller in the tower at Edwards on Oct 7th 1965 3rd shift.
I also remember an incident (I believe in the 50s or 60s), when there were multiple UFOs spotted around the White House in DC!! There is not alot of info on this, but I bet the US Govt took interest at this point!!
It is strange today, that the official US statement on this topic is ’ UFOs provide no credible threat to national security’ and most times, they just flat out deny any knowledge about them…But then there are lots of sightings around the country, where people see military aircraft either following, chasing, or escorting strange crafts, so that pretty much proves we ARE being lied to. Id love to know the Govt agency that responds to these things, I have a feeling the CIA and NRO are in deep.
I think the Govt fears widespread panic if they were to tell us the truth about these beings, and who knows, maybe the real truth is too bizarre or strange for the general public to comprehend or handle. But in modern times, views are slowly changing, there are lots of movies, shows about this topic, and studies show more people believe we are being visited, so maybe this has been a slow but methodical ‘getting the public used to the idea’, before something major happens that breaks the whole thing wide open.
Another thing that we must keep in mind, before mankind had the ability to fly, there were LOTS of UFO sightings, so its pretty clear these were not experimental Govt craft!! Even stranger, the crafts people were reporting way back then, are almost identical to what people are seeing today…??
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