Do you fear Death?

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ChainBreaker said:
But what if you had a grenade strapped to your groin?
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What would have allowed him to get into such s situation?

It is amusing to me the way movies often portray characters about to get offed in some complicated, frightening manner, which would have taken some time to set up. Wouldn’t their fear have driven them to resist being prepared for such a death?

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I wouldn’t say I accepted death, but I became reconciled to its likelihood, or even to its virtual certainty, during basic training in 1967. One is never again quite the same. Was I afraid? Not so much. Was I angry? Yeah, really.

It focuses one on the present moment. To dwell on it in these circumstances is to court death, of that I am certain. What happens is that once having become reconciled to its probability, and by setting this aside while focusing on the present as much as possible, there is a kind of freedom.

I would think others facing certain death, such as during a terminal illness, might experience this same phenomenon.
 
Re: my comment above about when once I became reconciled to the likelihood of death, there was a sort of freedom. This is because a soldier in these circumstance no longer is much concerned about consequences in the way one normally would. I didn’t really care anymore. Soldiers often behave in what seems a wild and reckless way. There is a reason for this behavior. One wants to experience as much of life as one can and as soon as one can. Consequences aren’t a great concern. This state of mind results in the sense of freedom. The thinking goes something like this: “So what are they going go do? Send me to Vietnam?”

I would think others faced with the definite certainy of death, such as during a terminal illness, might experience this same phenomenon and sense of freedom.
 
BrunoMaria said:
In our today’s paper we got an interview with David Garret
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Garrett_%28musician%29
(Star-Violonist 34) about „Fear of Death“.
This guy answered:
“I don’t have any fear of death, because I don’t have any non-good memory about the time before I was born. So, I won’t have any at the time after death”

Ain’t this a terribly questionable answer. Surprising that any paper would print such pointless babble.
But it’s a silly question too; „Do you fear death?“

Christians who lived in God can’t fear Death, for there is no death and no-one is ever dead. There is just a door called „death" we have to pass to be in God’s hemisphere. We might fear illness and other bad ways of dying - but “to fear Death” attests asubstantial lack of Jesus’ doctrine.
He however, who denied God, ought to know Paul’s word of Hebrews 10,31: It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
To all others - then our real life begins.
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Here’s the original Sonnett from A.D. 1610 by John Donne

Death be not proud, though some have called thee
Mighty and dreadful, for, thou art not so,
For, those, whom thou think’st, thou dost overthrow,
Die not, poore death, nor yet canst thou kill me.
From rest and sleepe, which but thy pictures bee,
Much pleasure, then from thee, much more must flow,
And soonest our best men with thee doe goe,
Rest of their bones, and souls deliverie.
Thou art slave to Fate, Chance, kings, and desperate men,
And dost with poyson, warre, and sicknesse dwell,
And poppie, or charmes can make us sleepe as well,
And better then thy stroake; why swell’st thou then;
One short sleepe past, wee wake eternally,
And death shall be no more; Death, thou shalt die.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Be_Not_Proud_%28poem%29
 
Hee_Zen said:
A truly “loving” creator would have been able to create a much better universe.
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He did, and He wants to bring every one of us to be with Him in eternal joy.

What is death after all:

Death be not proud by John Donne:

Death be not proud, though some have called thee
Mighty and dreadful, for, thou art not so,
For, those, whom thou think’st, thou dost overthrow,
Die not, poore death, nor yet canst thou kill me.
From rest and sleepe, which but thy pictures bee,
Much pleasure, then from thee, much more must flow,
And soonest our best men with thee doe goe,
Rest of their bones, and souls deliverie.
Thou art slave to Fate, Chance, kings, and desperate men,
And dost with poyson, warre, and sicknesse dwell,
And poppie, or charmes can make us sleepe as well,
And better then thy stroake; why swell’st thou then;
One short sleepe past, wee wake eternally,
And death shall be no more; Death, thou shalt die.
 
Thomas_White said:
Re: my comment above about when once I became reconciled to the likelihood of death, there was a sort of freedom. This is because a soldier in these circumstance no longer is much concerned about consequences in the way one normally would. I didn’t really care anymore. Soldiers often behave in what seems a wild and reckless way. There is a reason for this behavior. One wants to experience as much of life as one can and as soon as one can. Consequences aren’t a great concern. This state of mind results in the sense of freedom. The thinking goes something like this: “So what are they going go do? Send me to Vietnam?”

I would think others faced with the definite certainy of death, such as during a terminal illness, might experience this same phenomenon and sense of freedom.
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We all face a definite certainty of death. There is no freedom there.

And someone terminally ill is likely, due to the illness itself, to have little if any physical freedom.

ICXC NIKA
 
BrunoMaria said:
In our today’s paper we got an interview with David Garret
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Garrett_%28musician%29
(Star-Violonist 34) about „Fear of Death“.
This guy answered:
“I don’t have any fear of death, because I don’t have any non-good memory about the time before I was born. So, I won’t have any at the time after death”

Ain’t this a terribly questionable answer. Surprising that any paper would print such pointless babble.
But it’s a silly question too; „Do you fear death?“

Christians who lived in God can’t fear Death, for there is no death and no-one is ever dead. There is just a door called „death" we have to pass to be in God’s hemisphere. We might fear illness and other bad ways of dying - but “to fear Death” attests asubstantial lack of Jesus’ doctrine.
He however, who denied God, ought to know Paul’s word of Hebrews 10,31: It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
To all others - then our real life begins.

Yours
Bruno
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We all say no until it comes down to that last breath. I don’t care what anyone says. We all fear the unknown.

But we pray our fear will be overcome and taken away quickly by the love and promise of God.
 
rinnie said:
We all say no until it comes down to that last breath. I don’t care what anyone says. We all fear the unknown.
But we pray our fear will be overcome and taken away quickly by the love and promise of God.
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But why really FEAR?
In fact I quite often with my rotten heart, was convinced to die NOW. I swear by God, that all I thought then, was
DEAR GOD - IF I DIE NOW, PLEASE ACCEPT ME AND LET ME BE WITH YOU.

Many say “we fear the unknown”. But it is not unknown. Though of course we do not know what no eye ever saw and no ear ever heared as St. Paul cites the Psalm in his letter 1 Cor 2.9: “Things that no eye has seen, or ear heard, or mind imagined, are the things God has prepared for those who love him.”
But why should we fear this?
What we rather really might fear is is we are “worthy enough” to actually pass that narrow door to Christ which is called Death.
And besides; there is no death, but it’s indeed just the door we got to pass to see Jesus Christ. We know this not only of the words Jesus said to Dismas on the cross (truly yet today you will be together with me at My Fathers) but also of Christ’s word in John 11,25: the one who lives and believes in Me will never die.
So, what should we fear?

Yours
Bruno

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If God is just a delusion then in the end it really won’t matter for those who have faith and those who don’t…both will end up as random atoms oblivious to any cognizant existence…if God is real…those who have faith will see God and be with with him for eternity…that is what they chose…those who saw God as a delusion will also see he is real but will end up without him for eternity…that is what they chose…those are the only options which none of us can avoid…
 
GEddie said:
We all face a definite certainty of death. There is no freedom there.

And someone terminally ill is likely, due to the illness itself, to have little if any physical freedom.

ICXC NIKA
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As for the first part, if one hasen’t been there it cannot be understood. It’s better not to mention it. Most vets never do and nor should I. I knew better, and it won’t happen again.

As for the second part, both my wife and sister died of cancer. Long after they became physically incapacitated, their minds remained very active.
 
Peebo said:
If God is just a delusion then in the end it really won’t matter for those who have faith and those who don’t…both will end up as random atoms oblivious to any cognizant existence…if God is real…those who have faith will see God and be with with him for eternity…that is what they chose…those who saw God as a delusion will also see he is real but will end up without him for eternity..that is what they chose…those are the only options which none of us can avoid…
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Thats not the position of the Catholic Church. How long have you been a rebel?

The church accepts that invincible ignorance is possible. Thus not having faith does not mean you will go to hell.
 
sometimes… I fear that I have not lived up to what God has expected of me. I also sometimes fear that the atheists are right, that life ends at physical death…

but most times, I know they are completely wrong, and I fear more for the status or eternal well being of my friends or loved ones who have lost faith or never had it to begin with.

I think what is most fearful is the idea that at death I may lose my identity or self awareness
 
wcknight said:
sometimes… I fear that I have not lived up to what God has expected of me.
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None of us has lived up to what God expected of us. We all can do a lot better!
wcknight said:
I also sometimes fear that the atheists are right, that life ends at physical death…
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That’s a terribly dangerous thought, for Jesus Christ suffered for exactly this sin of ours. Do we really disregard this incredibly gread deed of love God gave us?! If we do, we mustn’t be surprised when we then hear GET AWAY FROM ME YOU EVILDOER as predicted in Luke 13:27 - Mt 25:41 and others. This is NOT a threatening message, for any father warns his beloved children of dangers, because he loves them. But it’s clear that God didn’t upload upon Himself this terrible achievement just for our whateverism - to believe it or not - just as we like.
wcknight said:
but most times, I know they are completely wrong, and I fear more for the status or eternal well being of my friends or loved ones who have lost faith or never had it to begin with.
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Well - let’s be honest to ourselves. Once we let sneak in suchlike thoughts like: I also sometimes fear that the atheists are right - then we that right on Satan’s trap - about to drop !
wcknight said:
I think what is most fearful is the idea that at death I may lose my identity or self awareness
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Now, if we give way to suchlike thought, what else it this then massive doubts?
NO! Let’s never go astray - Hell ambushes every single human being with sweetest thoughts whispered into our ears. But Satan is the father of the lie - he can’t else but lie. Let’s turn to Jesus Christ! Let’S flee back to Jesus Christ, for suchlike thoughts are the wrong way leading absolutely astray.

Yours
Bruno
 
Quite a few times i pray for death! Life can be so bad. Situations can feel unbearable!
 
ajecphotos said:
Quite a few times i pray for death! Life can be so bad. Situations can feel unbearable!
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When i would fall into deep bouts of depression i would say to God “take me now!”.

He never did…

Its not my time yet.
 
Only if I am carrying an unconfessed and unabsolved mortal sin do I fear death, because life is complicated out there, and I might die before I can get to the confessional. The sanctifying Grace of the shed Blood of Jesus is enough to take the FEAR of death away from me, because Jesus says Himself that under these conditions, (the sanctifying Grace of His shed Blood)“even though we die, so shall we live”.(John 11:25)
Praise the Lord for His fabulous Sacrifice that frees us from the fear of death, but casts the fear out because of His perfect Love. Classicar.
 
GEddie said:
I fall into depression AT the thought that I have to die
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Oh please! Don’t! But well, you are not alone in these thoughts. Many do alike. But don’t you and all of them know, that nobody is ever “dead”?! There is no death! Jesus Christ who is God Himself said in John 11,25: The one who believes in Me will live even if he dies.

Now, there are two possibilities: First is: We do believe in Jesus Christ. Seond is; we do not believe in Jesus Christ.
If we do, than this word of God The Son, is absolutely decisive and true and consolidating over all thoughts of “death”.

Today in my club I had a short but very impressive little talk with a person I before hardly thought was so deep in belief:
She asked me: When you are about to die or feel like dying like several times they took you on the emergency-car to hospital, how do you feel?
I answered:
I feel and am not at all in any fear or panic. Far more so I am completely involved in the always same prayer: DEAR GOD - IF I GOT TO GO NOW; IF YOU CALL ME NOW - PLEACE RECEIVE ME AND LET ME STAY WITH YOU.
The surprising and great thing was: The dame said: Good! Great! That’s exactly what I do then too!

Yours
Bruno
 
Death is imminent and as long as you believe in God and are faithful to him you should not worry too much
 
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