No need to get in a semantics argument over what constitutes a “character” defect. Glad we agree we cant support them regardless of how we describe them.Claiming that we shouldn’t vote for someone who is pro-choice is not an oversimplification. In fact, I agree with you on that. I felt this specific statement spoken in general, however, is an oversimplification: “Supporting abortion does not happen in a vacuum. It is a sign of a serious character defect.” I do not believe that everyone that is pro-choice has a character defect. Many of them may be morally deficient, but I also believe many are simply uneducated, people whose hearts can be changed.
that must have been a very difficult 5 years!No need to get in a semantics argument over what constitutes a “character” defect. Glad we agree we cant support them regardless of how we describe them.
I will admit to getting very hyper about this-I spent 5 years counseling young women(mostly high school students) at a Crisis pregnancy center and have seen first hand the damage the culture of deaths has done to our youth.
It was. I counseled on Tuesdays and my teenaged daughters used to save any distressing news about themselves they had until after I got home Tuesdays-they knew any trouble they had gotten into would be minor compared to what I was listening to the last 3 hours. !that must have been a very difficult 5 years!
I do chose love and I do trust in the lord-I also will not vote for anyone who supports abortion.Robert,
your tag-line says choose love.
Believe it. God will not abandon his faithful ones.
but we must do the work here on earth.
Trust, and He will take care of it. When? It’s for Him to decide, but we must cooperate with Him.
Peace.
Why cant we do both?The bearer of bad news is often abused simply for delivering negative news even though innocent. That’s what I risk doing here. Believe me that it is better to pray and have trust in God than to spend much time with politics.
Think about this…The bearer of bad news is often abused simply for delivering negative news even though innocent. That’s what I risk doing here. Believe me that it is better to pray and have trust in God than to spend much time with politics.
Just speaking for myself, I have stopped paying attention to politics and I no longer listen to the news. Instead, I’m trying more and more to love God with all my soul, heart, mind and strength. This is commanded of us, politics are not. One can never overdo this love.Why cant we do both?
And I wish people would stop saying pro-CHOICE to mean pro-ABORTION. To think and speak that way is to already lose half the battle.**100% yes in voting for them
**A priest told me once that even if a candidate is so-so on social issues, if they are pro-choice then you must ALWAYS vote against them. ****
I was talking to the OP.I do chose love and I do trust in the lord-I also will not vote for anyone who supports abortion.
OOPS!I was talking to the OP.
Yes. That is exactly right. When others see people out there, doing and speaking, they are inspired. It must be this way. The truth is the truth and we should vote based on the truth. Even if we only post on internet forums, it must be done. Silence is not an option.Robert, I’m not sure if your statement is intentionally baiting or your specific opinion, but I will take a bite and state my opinion.
Sinful actions must always be challenged by the faithful, through charity and love. This is our calling as the faithful. It’s not a matter we must leave solely to the clerical body.
Christ didn’t just talk to His disciples. He often set them away to speak to people and *interact *with them as well as commune in prayer. Being a Christian is not merely relegated to acts of prayer alone.
This is why we pray while standing at abortion centers. We pray as we walk in the March for Life rallies in D.C. and elsewhere. We may* pray as we cast our votes* for better legislators and officials that follow moral and ethical policies that may also follow Catholic teaching. We pray for our attorneys and provide them resources as they defend religious freedom in the courts. We pray and send money to Mother Angelica and EWTN and Catholic Answers and many other ministries to help them continue their work.
Remember that God invented the stone which you claim that such questionable laws and practices are written. Mankind has chiseled many a worldly claim into such stones, real and actual.
And God is witness to the destruction of these past and dead fragments of mankind’s dead claims, destroyed because immorality cannot inherently stay as a synthetized foundational norm for a society before society itself eventually fails and crumbles. Ancient Rome had these issues, too. They are no more.
We cannot merely pray. Through the Holy Spirit, we must also, and always, act in some capacity.
Yes, the pro-abortion people have been playing this word game since the beginning. The American public seemed to have bought it without questioning what they would be choosing. Don’t underestimate the power of words. It’s about time we caught on and caught up.And I wish people would stop saying pro-CHOICE to mean pro-ABORTION. To think and speak that way is to already lose half the battle.
The military does it all the time. Who wants to be pro-abortion? That sounds bad. Pro-choice is vague and not as unpleasant. I mean, everybody wants a choice, right?Yes, the pro-abortion people have been playing this word game since the beginning. The American public seemed to have bought it without questioning what they would be choosing. Don’t underestimate the power of words. It’s about time we caught on and caught up.
So how much light is shed when we empower one who supports abortion? And cant we fight abortion and shed light? Are they mutually exclusive?“Fighting evil is a very noble activity when it must be done. But it is not our mission in life. Our job is to bring in more light.”
- Tzvi Freeman
This was written by a Jew, but I agree with it and I think we would all be wise to look at our world in such a manner.
Yes, you can split up your time and try to do both, but the fight to end abortions and same-sex marriages from within the political arena is likely to be vain. Better, I think, to light a candle and share your love.So how much light is shed when we empower one who supports abortion? And cant we fight abortion and shed light? Are they mutually exclusive?
“What’s the use, it will not change anything. Slavery is carved in stone and will not change in the near future no matter what politicians are elected for office. Better to engage in peaceful prayer then to get your feathers ruffled.”What’s the use, it will not change anything. Abortion and same-sex marriages are carved in stone and will not change in the near future no matter which politicians are elected for office. Better to engage in peaceful prayer then to get your feathers ruffled.