why would I waste my time offering you any explanations of my intent when you completely discount everything I say? You seem to be only interested in your polemics and personally attacking me.It does. The subsequent “especially” or “particularly” does not negate or in any way contradict or lessen the meaning of your statement:
Your objection to the selection of the quote is disingenuous and specious, and likewise is your characterization of your own opinion.
I suggest you bookmark an online dictionary: m-w.com/dictionary/ethnocentricethnocentric:
Pronunciation: "eth-nO-'sen-trik
Function: adjective
: characterized by or based on the attitude that one’s own group is superior
Don’t address me again. I’m done with your style.polemic:
Function: noun
Etymology: French polémique, from Middle French, from polemique controversial, from Greek polemikos warlike, hostile, from polemos war; perhaps akin to Greek pelemizein to shake, Old English ealfelo baleful
1 a : an aggressive attack on or refutation of the opinions or principles of another b : the art or practice of disputation or controversy – usually used in plural but sing. or plural in constr.
2 : an aggressive controversialist : DISPUTANT
- po·lem·i·cist /-'le-m&-sist/ noun
I have a sugestion. if you dont want attacks, dont say things that would warrent them with most people. I showed my wife( who is very diehard democrat) and she said " is the person ashamed of being american or something" . All that aside Im tired myself of me and those like me being called unchristian for being for enforcing our illegal alien laws.Im tired of my ancestors who came here all legally to a person, being compared to illegals. the fact is coming accross the border and not bothering to get documented is breaking and entering. breaking and entering into our country is a 6 month offence. if one comes to my country illegally rather than legally, quite frankly I cant trust them. I want those Icant trust in that sense either in jail or shipped out. part of what I pay taxes for is defense and protection, not just welfare and entitlements. anyone who say my sentiment is unreasoable in un reasonable themselves.why would I waste my time offering you any explanations of my intent when you completely discount everything I say? You seem to be only interested in your polemics and personally attacking me.
I suggest you bookmark an online dictionary: m-w.com/dictionary/ethnocentric
Don’t address me again. I’m done with your style.
QFT. You are dead on right.The US has engaged in some very dirty-handed dealings with our neighbors to the south with NAFTA, CAFTA, the World Bank loans:
speaking of the minutemen, if they are just observing and reporting, whats with the rifles and scopes.QFT. You are dead on right.
… Here comes the FTAA … unless we stop it!
self defense just in case. which is their right.speaking of the minutemen, if they are just observing and reporting, whats with the rifles and scopes.
a handgun or knife would be better for a close encounter, a rifle is more likely an offensive range weapon.self defense just in case. which is their right.
what people choose for self defense isnt my concearn. I have a father who is good enough with the hand gun you are thinking of to do more killing and fdamage than maynbe some of those minutement can do with their rifles. myself Id take a rifle too if I was with them.a handgun or knife would be better for a close encounter, a rifle is more likely an offensive range weapon.
I personally know that many Hispanic Americans are leaders in their respective Minutemen chapters, and are Catholics. The tasteless actions of one man in CA recently was disturbing and rude. However, even more disturbing and offensive to me is the Church’s position on advocating, hiring/harboring/aiding and abetting millions of illegal aliens to come to this country. The Church’s actions have gone way beyond just offering a meal or temporary insistence and has gone into policital advocacy in favor of foreign nationals who violate our laws, commit crimes, terrorize our communities, support drug cartels, human trafficking and jeopardizing our national security. This like, the Church’s child sexual abuse scandals is outrageous and wrong.It’s not the first time I have seen video of despicable behavior by Minutemen. The Minutemen are nothing more than the modern version of “Irish need not apply.”
Catholics who support the Minutemen are just fooling themselves-- especially if they’re ethnically Irish.
I do not believe in devout Catholics being Minutemen.I would call in to question which Minuteman group this is. It porbably is NOT the official Minutemen of Jim Gilchrist who is a devout Catholic. This is probably one of the many rogue minutemen groups.
I absolutely agree with you. And there are many, many Catholics who feel the same way.I personally know that many Hispanic Americans are leaders in their respective Minutemen chapters, and are Catholics. The tasteless actions of one man in CA recently was disturbing and rude. However, even more disturbing and offensive to me is the Church’s position on advocating, hiring/harboring/aiding and abetting millions of illegal aliens to come to this country. The Church’s actions have gone way beyond just offering a meal or temporary insistence and has gone into policital advocacy in favor of foreign nationals who violate our laws, commit crimes, terrorize our communities, support drug cartels, human trafficking and jeopardizing our national security. This like, the Church’s child sexual abuse scandals is outrageous and wrong.
really? is this what you think Blessed Teresa did in Calcutta? ask whether a person was a “legal citizen” before attending to their needs?As far as what St. Francis and Mother Teresa would have done, they would have displayed moral courage and true holiness by calling the Mexican government to accountability regarding their poor.
I highly doubt calcutta had a big influx of illegal alliens.really? is this what you think Blessed Teresa did in Calcutta? ask whether a person was a “legal citizen” before attending to their needs?
Mother Teresa had no fear of political correctness. And, she didn’t take the path of least resistance. She called a spade a spade.really? is this what you think Blessed Teresa did in Calcutta? ask whether a person was a “legal citizen” before attending to their needs?
Although I agree that Blessed Teresa didn’t parse words it wasn’t this quality, per se, that made her a saint. It was the way she cared for the needs of human’s, seeing Christ in each and every person without regard to their legal status or nationality. As the scripture tells us:Mother Teresa had no fear of political correctness. And, she didn’t take the path of least resistance. She called a spade a spade.
So while she helped the sick and dying, she also circled the globe, spoke at the U.N. and called on ALL nations to end poverty and corruption.
She redressed ALL countries, not just the ones where Free Speech would protect her. She addressed ALL leaders, particularly those who didn’t want to hear what they needed to do.
She put her trust in CHRIST, not socialism.
AND, I never once heard her express the sentiment of breaking any nations established laws – or encourage others to violate a nation’s sovereignty.
No, my friend, that belongs uniquely to socialist/communist actors.
Matthew 25
Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in:
It is the fullfillment of this scripture that the American Bishops refer to in their opposition statements on the proposals put before the US Congress. It is a complete mischaracterization to call the Church’s position “socialism”. Here’s their website where you can read for yourself what the Church’s position is on immigration, rather than making such false accusations : justiceforimmigrants.org/faq_cath_position.html36 Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me. 37 Then shall the just answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, and fed thee; thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38 And when did we see thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and covered thee? 39 Or when did we see thee sick or in prison, and came to thee? 40 And the king answering, shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me. drbo.org/chapter/47025.htm
INTERFAITH STATEMENT IN SUPPORT OF COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM
October 14, 2005
We, the undersigned faith-based leaders and organizations, join together to call upon President Bush and our elected officials in Congress to enact comprehensive immigration reform legislation that establishes a safe and humane immigration system consistent with our values. Our diverse faith traditions teach us to welcome our brothers and sisters with love and compassion.
The Hebrew Bible tells us: “The strangers who sojourn with you shall be to you as the natives among you, and you shall love them as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt (Leviticus 19:33-34).”
In the New Testament, Jesus tells us to welcome the stranger (cf. Matthew 25:35), for “what you do to the least of my brethren, you do unto me (Matthew 25:40).”
The Qur’an tells us that we should “serve God…and do good to…orphans, those in need, neighbors who are near, neighbors who are strangers, the companion by your side, the wayfarer that you meet, [and those who have nothing] (4:36).”
read the signatures at the bottom (too many to post here).The Hindu scripture Taitiriya Upanishad tells us: “The guest is a
representative of God (1.11.2)”
Why are you popping off at me?You know what—sprout, JW1063. Letting you and the immigrants dictate how this Country is to be run—will not help the immigrants in the long run. The problem is NOT this country—it is with their home country.
If you are serious about helping them—move to Mexico, etc. Rally for reform in that country—so that peoples needs will be met.
Are you trying to tell me and people on this forum that the American Catholic Bishops support individuals ILLEGALLY crossing the border?Christian Vet,
The scriptural quotes I gave are the ones that the American Bishops in their Pastoral Statements regarding immigration have referenced as part of their teaching. That’s hardly taking “parcels” of scripture out of context or outside Church teaching. The links I gave earlier will take you to the USCCB website, (usccb.org/mrs/stranger.shtml) or you could go to the vatican website (vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/migrants/index.htm) and read what the Church teaches on immigration. In many or all of those documents the Church quotes these scriptures (and others as well) as part of the Church’s teaching.
The Church and her Bishops have been grossly mischaracterized as being for Amnesty, Open Borders, supporting criminals, etc. That’s simply not the case, but a political spin by people who either a) haven’t read what they’ve said or b) are intentionally mischaracterizing them.
I’m not forming my opinion based on any La Raza group. I’m forming my opinion on the teachings of the Church. It’s not a black and white issue the way some would like it to be.
As for the Minutemen, I’ve already said my opinion of them and it hasn’t improved after seeing this video and hearing that one of them maced a person. Even President Bush has called them “vigilantes”.