Do you support the second amendment?

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ours plummeted without a gun buyback?

in 1995 we had an 8.2 % murder rate per 100k. in 2014 (last year on fbi list i used) it was 4.5%.
 
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The National Rifle Association announced its support Thursday for regulating “bump stocks,” devices that can effectively convert semi-automatic rifles into fully automated weapons
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We are a melting pot, much more then you guys. Go for a walk in Sydney and play spot the aussie
 
We just pushed all our racial undesirables over cliffs and smashed their babies heads against rocks.
So many massacres.
We have slums. Just like you. We are busy growing them ATM. We have homeless, marginalised, inculturated groups, all that. They arm with knives, bats and Molotov cocktails.

We had a white Australia policy until 50 years ago.
 
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This is not a buy back. It’s not like the late 90s gun amnesty and buy back. Any news outlet reporting that is confusing this gun amnesty with the first one. Fake unresearched news.

The amnesty, still going and likely to be extended now, is just what it says, An amnesty.
A voluntary surrender of unregistered and illegal weapons.

51 thousand guns have been surrendered in 3 months.

The guns aren’t legally owned because they are illegal. Just like drugs are illegal.

Outside the current amnesty period, anyone caught with an unregistered firearm faces a fine of up to $280,000, up to 14 years in jail, and a criminal record.”

And it’s not forced. If 51 thousand have been handed in, imagine what’s still out there.
 
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fake, unresearched or antiquated links doesn’t make it true. Neither does tabloid sensationalism.

A cartel is a cartel, it’s still not a gang. And I can’t find one reputable news site reporting on that cartel. If it headed here, it would find some serious grief from our current criminal organisations- outlaw motorcycle clubs and the Mafia.
I live here. I know what’s going on. Listen rather then trying to refute how my society functions.
 
We are putting drones to good use

Shark spotting
Bushfire spotting
Property imaging
Farm chores

Delivering pizza!
 
Yes there was one, once. Only once. Last Century. A gun amnesty with money paid for guns. Not much money mind you.
Today, right now, at the moment, for the last 3 months, we have the same thing, a gun amnesty, without money changing hands. The second gun amnesty.
 
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Yes there was one, once. Only once. Last Century. A gun amnesty with money paid for guns. Not much money mind you.
Today, right now, at the moment, for the last 3 months, we have the same thing, a gun amnesty, without money changing hands. The second gun amnesty.
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What type of guns? Were they legal prior to the 1990’s confiscation?
 
You forgot the the ‘selective fire’ capability.

That is present in assault rifles, but lacking in semi-automatic rifles.

So a semi-automatic only rifle that is near-mil-spec rifles with detachable mags with shorter barrels than a traditional rifle and shoots an intermediate round is NOT an assault rifle.

Thus the German Sturmgewehr, the US M-16 and the Soviet\Russian AK-47s are all assault rifles. The AR-15 is not, nor are civilian copies of the AK.
 
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fake, unresearched or antiquated links doesn’t make it true. Neither does tabloid sensationalism.
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data is usually manipulated by governments but not so the numbers are higher or to scare their people.

i posted what your government is putting out. if it fake than so be it.

whatever you call the group the criminal activity is the same.

a lot of people are so protective of their home country that it impairs their ability to see the truth.

some people in chicago don’t believe chicago is as bad as the rest of us see it to be because their little section of it is usually safe. it doesn’t change the fact that chicago is the murder capital of the us.
 
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Serious question here, do you guys really believe the Government or military will turn on its people?

If so, what is the real cause of such distrust in people you elect?
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For me this has nothing to do with Trump or the specific Prez sitting in office. Remember that people in USA came from all over and have all sorts of different ancestral backgrounds. They react to any policy issue based on their past background.

There are people in USA who came from countries where the government did all sorts of rotten things and they can totally picture it happening again. Many of these people may not focus on guns specifically if they came from a country where guns were frowned upon or not available in the culture, but they may be really concerned about something else like privacy rights. I myself do not like the idea of a government taking people’s guns because of how the British acted in the early 20th century toward the Irish. The British, a generally reasonable bunch of guys on whose government we founded our own, did some really terrible things in that instance. My ancestors left Ireland. I realize those who stayed and went through the IRA years might feel differently about guns or have made their peace with their neighbors, so I don’t purport to speak for those now living there or even all Irish-Americans, but I honestly think from time to time that the equivalent of “the British” or even “the Germans” might one day appear again and we would have to “fight them in the streets” or form an underground resistance with whatever we had. I do not want to be unarmed if that happens, even if the oppressor has bigger arms.

There are also people in the US who feel the Federal government is continuously overreaching into state and regional matters and preferences. Some of these folks are motivated by racism, but not all, and very likely not even a majority despite the media playing up race all the time. They have a real concern that the Feds, powered by leftist populations in places like California and NYC, will interfere with their way of life, including but not limited to gun ownership. The Feds kind of brought on this fear over time by greatly expanding the power of the administrative agencies since FDR, which may have been necessary for dealing with the depression (although that was ultimately solved by WWII, not agencies ) and racial segregation (which could be viewed as an emergency because it was putting lives in danger), but becomes increasingly tenuous and overreaching when applied to virtually everything as the Feds tried to do for some decades.
 
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Bloody America was born in armed revolt. Forget the NRA, it’s in America’s DNA.

Now, as to passing an emergency law" to stop all violence, let us ponder if that makes any sense at all. Passing laws which are intended to make it physically impossible to commit crime is nonsensical - as much as the emotions may leads some to believe that it’s the right thing to do or that we must “do something.”

This man could have gathered up a single self-loading hunting rifle from the 1950s and, with enough legal 3 and 5 round magazines,would have done just as much damage - probably more damage, since hunting rifles are generally more powerful.

The question that arises in my mind is: Do those who demand that “we pass a law” believe that freedom is simply too dangerous?

This argument is not about death or casualties, since we accept vehicular deaths, airplane crashes, train derailments, strangulation, stabbing, poisoning, clubbing, medical malpractice and all other manners of death.

No, it is about something else entirely.
 
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