Do you think priests should be allowed to marry?

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BSHoop96 said:
I don’t mean to sound too harsh but I would just venture to say that you may be celibate but you are obviously not in the same place spiritually and filled with the same devotion, and same purpose for it, as a priest. Therein lies all the difference in the world. Don’t place your own failings on them.
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Oh brother…

Harsh? No, harsh is not the word i would have thought of… but i will refrain from saying the adjective that does come to mind…

No… maybe i will… Presumptuous…

There is a lot of that on these forums… People assuming they know others… their very motives… Hmmm… Oh well. Se la vie…

God bless… 🙂
 
BSHoop96 said:
Where does celibacy fit into this statement?
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I’m glad you asked…

Its like this:

Priest is unhappy because he has been celibate too long (lonely, etc.)… priest gets angry @ Church…(sometimes subconsciouly), doesn’t do his job so well anymore… grouchy with parishioners… (etc)…

Well, you get my drift…

(I am being a little facetious… )… a little…
 
distracted said:
What does confession have to do with being “distracted”?? :confused: And how do you presume to know the state of my soul? Oh, OK, i know… i had the audacity to question some Posters’’ long-held beliefs…

No, i don’t think i really need a confession… haven’t committed any mortal sins (except maybe the aforementioned??)

No, waht i actually need is…

sex

😃
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you do seem a little preoccupied with it…especially other people’s.
 
A Priest is given a special Chrism and grace to stay celibate, I really don’t think you need to be comparing yourself to a Priest distracted, although, I am sure you could be given the grace also to remain celibate or to have a Vocation to Marriage.
 
distracted said:
have you noticed how many times you use the word “they” and “them”?? Why do you speak for people who live in ways you do not? Why do you speak for others? Should we not all live our own lives and let others worry about theirs, particularly when you are advocating changes or lack thereof that can make “them” unhappy?? Like i said, i feel that only those who have been celibate for a very long time should be speaking on this subject… How long have you been celibate?? So if they don’t know anyone they would be interested in marrying, that means they can swear off such a thing for the rest of their lives??
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Allhers…you can’t win with this guy. He’s like a kite in the wind. He’s been speaking for others since he started but when you say something he doesn’t like…he accuses you of it.

Distracted…I don’t know why you’re celibate and don’t care…I just know it is not for the same reason that a priest is so I don’t think you’re the expert.
 
distracted said:
Oh brother…

Harsh? No, harsh is not the word i would have thought of… but i will refrain from saying the adjective that does come to mind…

No… maybe i will… Presumptuous…

There is a lot of that on these forums… People assuming they know others… their very motives… Hmmm… Oh well. Se la vie…

God bless… 🙂
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My point was not to insult you but to say that a priest who has discerned this for himself, decided that it is for him, and fills his life with his devotion to God and the Church, without sex, is obviously not in the same place you are, as you are so obviously struggling with it. Why do you assume that they are?
 
distracted said:
I’m glad you asked…

Its like this:

Priest is unhappy because he has been celibate too long (lonely, etc.)… priest gets angry @ Church…(sometimes subconsciouly), doesn’t do his job so well anymore… grouchy with parishioners… (etc)…

Well, you get my drift…

(I am being a little facetious… )… a little…
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distracted…this is exactly the point I am trying to make. If a priest is in a different place spiritually than you he probably does not get “angry”. And If he struggles, he probably “offers the struggle up to God”. We all have crosses to bear. Offer it up.
 
BSHoop96 said:
distracted…this is exactly the point I am trying to make. If a priest is in a different place spiritually than you he probably does not get “angry”. And If he struggles, he probably “offers the struggle up to God”. We all have crosses to bear. Offer it up.
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:amen:
 
BSHoop96 said:
Allhers…you can’t win with this guy. He’s like a kite in the wind. He’s been speaking for others since he started but when you say something he doesn’t like…he accuses you of it.

Distracted…I don’t know why you’re celibate and don’t care…I just know it is not for the same reason that a priest is so I don’t think you’re the expert.
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I guess I should have put that with this post. She is a female. (Distracted) At least she said so in another thread I read.
 
BSHoop96 said:
My point was not to insult you but to say that a priest who has discerned this for himself, decided that it is for him, and fills his life with his devotion to God and the Church, without sex, is obviously not in the same place you are, as you are so obviously struggling with it. Why do you assume that they are?
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for one thing, i am not “obviously” struggling with anything… I sometimes struggle… I am not obsessed with losing celibacy every day, every minute of the day… In fact, now that i think about it, i hardly struggle at all anymore. I’ve gotten used to it… but there are times when… (sigh)… Long Story!!! I don’t have time or inclination to get into it… but in any case, i am not “struggling” as much as some may think… U can get used to anything…

And you still come across as presumptous because you don’t know how mnay priests are “struggling” and how many are not… the only reason i tend to think that many of them are (define “many”)… is because i know what its like to have to say No to my desires 24/7… 365… for a long, long time. Thats all…

And not all priests (…hate to disillusion you) are filled with thoughts of nothing but God and His purposes… They are as human as anyone else…

And not all sex-crazed people lik me are un-spritual, either… 😃

i attend Mass daily… spend much time with Jesus at the Blessed Sacrament… I just think it woiuld kinda cool to have someone to share Jesus with…

and i think many priests probably feel the same way… Of course, i have not taken a poll of priests… (someone probably has, though…)…
 
BSHoop96 said:
distracted…this is exactly the point I am trying to make. If a priest is in a different place spiritually than you he probably does not get “angry”. And If he struggles, he probably “offers the struggle up to God”. We all have crosses to bear. Offer it up.
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well, you obviously haven’t walked a quarter mile in my shoes…

Angry priests?? I’ve known a bunch of them…

What thye are really angry about, i do not know…

All i know is that living alone for years and years is not healhty… It may be healthy for 50 years, but not for 51… 😃
 
BSHoop96 said:
Allhers…you can’t win with this guy.
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Win? What is there to win? Is this a game?? :hmmm:
He’s been speaking for others since he started but when you say something he doesn’t like…he accuses you of it.
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accuses?? hmm… pretty strong words… but anyway, Yes, i have been speaking for priests who are celibate and don’t want to be… because, as stated, i know that is like…
…I don’t know why you’re celibate and don’t care…I just know it is not for the same reason that a priest is so I don’t think you’re the expert.
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Yes, you are right. Priests are holy and i am not… a holy person has no sexual desires… and if he/she does - God forbid :eek: (esp she :rolleyes: ) the person keeps them to him/herself…

Oh please… :rolleyes:

But hey… don’t change the subject:

How long have you been celibate??

No one seems to want to say… Hm… :hmmm:
 
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