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Chatter163
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- There is no need to speak like that in this forum.
- Plenty of people get married in the evening. In my last diocese, many did, especially Hispanics.
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Mike30
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In response to this particular threadI would like to say that I personally believe that 7,687,211 angels can dance on the head of a pin.
The discussion has become just as inane as those discussions were years ago.
The discussion has become just as inane as those discussions were years ago.
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sw85
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I actually went to one about a year ago. It was ridiculous. The wedding itself was held at around 6:30 PM. We had dinner at around 9 PM. I left around midnight and they still hadn’t cut the cake! Anyway, yes, that Mass satisfied my Sunday obligation.
Lemme guess – they’re insane because “Vatican II changed all that”?
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liturgyluver
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What a nightmare! I have never known a wedding take place later than 2pm. A wedding would not be a wedding without time for all the photographs, the 8-course lunch, speeches, cutting of the cake, dancing, supper, more dancing and final salutations to the couple as they drive off into the night!
I think the main reason there are not more evening weddings is because some parishes do not permit them. In many areas evening is the preferred (by the couple) time for weddings.
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Chatter163
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I was at a wedding Mass that started at 7:30PM. The reception was from 9PM–1AM. All of those things took place.What a nightmare! I have never known a wedding take place later than 2pm. A wedding would not be a wedding without time for all the photographs, the 8-course lunch, speeches, cutting of the cake, dancing, supper, more dancing and final salutations to the couple as they drive off into the night!
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SKWill
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Couples whose parishes already had their morning and afternoon wedding times booked. [a common occurrence at my previous parish
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mphazell
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Not quite true.
As far as I understand it, on Sundays of Advent, Lent and Easter, one has to use the Sunday readings (and propers) in a Nuptial Mass - there is no option.
However, outside of Advent, Lent and Easter, the Sunday readings (and propers) are only required to be used if the marriage is celebrated within the normal parish Sunday Mass(es). Outside of the parish Sunday Mass(es), the Nuptial Mass readings or the Sunday readings can be chosen.
Example: My parish has Sunday masses at 10am and 6pm. If a marriage was celebrated at either of those masses on (e.g.) the 11th Sunday of Ordinary Time, it would have to use the Sunday readings. But one could have a Nuptial Mass at 2pm on the same Sunday and freely use either the Nuptial readings or the Sunday readings.
And in answer to the original question, no, an 8am Saturday Mass cannot possibly fulfil one’s Sunday obligation, regardless of form or rite!!
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MrZoom
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Jumping in here - my friends Rose and Paul, who have a great devotion to the Divine Mercy, had their wedding at the Saturday evening anticipated Mass for Divine Mercy Sunday (the Second Sunday of Easter) in 2008, using the Sunday readings for the Novus Ordo. Granted, the Mass started at 4 in the afternoon, but it was “Saturday evening” in terms of Church Law.
Granted also they didn’t have a big reception. We all went out to a pizza parlor!
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Gidge
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No, Saturday morning Mass does not fulfill your Sunday obligation.
A Saturday evening OF Mass would with the readings proper to that Sunday
(a nuptial Mass/Funeral Mass/Confirmation Mass would not count).
The priest has discretion to say different Masses in place of the regular Sunday Mass, per his Ordo , but usually for very a good reason, and with the approval of the local ordinary (e.g. If the feast of the patron Saint of a parish falls on a Sunday, the Mass for that saint could be said and it does fulfill the Sunday obligation – from vespers Saturday, through Sunday inclusive).
A Saturday evening OF Mass would with the readings proper to that Sunday
(a nuptial Mass/Funeral Mass/Confirmation Mass would not count).
The priest has discretion to say different Masses in place of the regular Sunday Mass, per his Ordo , but usually for very a good reason, and with the approval of the local ordinary (e.g. If the feast of the patron Saint of a parish falls on a Sunday, the Mass for that saint could be said and it does fulfill the Sunday obligation – from vespers Saturday, through Sunday inclusive).
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aemcpa
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This is simply not true.
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John_Lazarus
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Not to derail the thread…
…but this got me thinking: On Resurrection Sunday, Jesus appeared to the Apostles that evening, but Thomas was not there. He must have showed up for Saturday!
…I apologize for the interruption – back to your regularly-scheduled thread, already in progress.
…but this got me thinking: On Resurrection Sunday, Jesus appeared to the Apostles that evening, but Thomas was not there. He must have showed up for Saturday!
…I apologize for the interruption – back to your regularly-scheduled thread, already in progress.
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Gidge
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Source ? I am not a priest, and am still learning myself, can you back up this statement ?
Can we ask a priest here on CA ?
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aemcpa
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Just read this entire thread. The sources have already been given.Source ? I am not a priest, and am still learning myself, can you back up this statement ?
Can we ask a priest here on CA ?
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Joe_5859
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This same back-and-forth occurred earlier in this thread.Source ? I am not a priest, and am still learning myself, can you back up this statement ?
Can we ask a priest here on CA ?
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Kevin812
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The argument that has not been addressed and is rather vital to the question; since this a matter of the EF, as govern by SP, what were the ‘previous’ guidance on the matter before the Pauline Mass (OF)?
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Gidge
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Thanks. I’ll check that out.This same back-and-forth occurred earlier in this thread.
I just went from a NEW member to a Junior member and now my avatar picture is not showing up – any ideas why this is/how to fix this ?
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Joe_5859
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Sometimes those types of membership changes take a day or two for the system to work out. I’d try again tomorrow. Usually waiting a day will do the trick.
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Gidge
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Thanks, I stand corrected on the “any Mass will do on a Saturday” to fulfill one’s Sunday obligation so long as it is in the evening. I can’t argue with canon law.
The OP asked about Saturday morning EF Mass, this doesn’t count for Sunday.
I go to EF regularly and since there isn’t the vigil Mass option in EF, I don’t see myself attending Saturday afternoon Mass except out of necessity (e.g. snowstorm predicted for Sunday).
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Joe_5859
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Yes, it didn’t take us long to get a bit afield from the OP’s original question.Thanks, I stand corrected on the “any Mass will do on a Saturday” to fulfill one’s Sunday obligation so long as it is in the evening. I can’t argue with canon law.
The OP asked about Saturday morning EF Mass, this doesn’t count for Sunday.
I go to EF regularly and since there isn’t the vigil Mass option in EF, I don’t see myself attending Saturday afternoon Mass except out of necessity (e.g. snowstorm predicted for Sunday).
I’ve seen some go so far as to argue that anything after 12:00 noon on Saturday counted as “evening”, but I’ve never seen someone stretch that back to 8:00am. 
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