Does anyone here believe the earth is 5000 years old?

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When dating based on radioisotopes you have to remember that these dates are not accurate because these radioactive isotopes as any intro to chemistry course would tell you are not stable enough to accurately date.

This form of dating has been proved innacurate in many different ways:

Heres just a few:
Mt. Etna – erupted 2100 years ago, but rocks were dated 25 million years ago.
Sunset Crater, Northern Arizona – erupted in 1065 AD, but rocks were dated 200,000 years old.
Lava flows at Mt. Ngaurhoe, New Zealand – erupted in 1949, 1954, but rocks dated 275,000 yrs old.
Hualalai basalt, Hawaii erupted 200 years ago, but rocks were dated 1.4 to 22 million yrs old.
Mt. Etna basalt, Sicily, erupted in 1971, but rocks were dated 140,000 to 350,000 yrs old.
Mount St. Helens erupted in 1980, but rocks were dated up to 2.8 million years old.
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This shows the same amount of innacuracies as Carbon 14 dating or Ar 40-Ar 39 dating.
 
landon13 said:
Really? Oh my gosh. Why would I make that up. It was studied on Mt. St. Helens right here in the US.

atenizo.org/evolution-c14-kar.htm

Even if you look at science and go behind my 6000 years, scientists believe that Carbon 14 is only viable to about 60,000 years and not millions if not billions of years.
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so what? C14 isn’t used for dating beyond that. do you understand that?
 
Fairwinds said:
so what? C14 isn’t used for dating beyond that. do you understand that?
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Evolutionists don’t understand that. Evolutionists use C14 dating to date far beyond that. All methods of dating that give the earth an age more than a few thousand years old have been proven innacurate. And yes I do understand that. Do you???
 
CompSciGuy said:
I hear six thousand. Do I hear seven thousand? Seven thousand years? Going once, going twice…
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12000! (6000 for Creation, plus another 6000 since then :D)

Also, I posit another related question for anyone who says the world is 6000 years old:

With all due respect, what shape is the Earth? Science says it’s round, but the Bible says it’s flat. I always ask this, because I never understood the logic behind people using the Bible to “disprove” evolution, but still trusting mainstream science about the shape of the Earth.
 
Razanir said:
12000! (6000 for Creation, plus another 6000 since then :D)

Also, I posit another related question for anyone who says the world is 6000 years old:

With all due respect, what shape is the Earth? Science says it’s round, but the Bible says it’s flat. I always ask this, because I never understood the logic behind people using the Bible to “disprove” evolution, but still trusting mainstream science about the shape of the Earth.
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Um, you missed 6 days for creation. It only took 6 days because the Hebrew used the word for day with “evening and morning” not just day. This is Literal. not thousands of years per day.

The earth is round. Where in the Bible does it say flat? No one truly believed it was flat, by the way. The ancient Greeks found out it was round a long long time ago.

By the way, are you Christian? or do you believe we evolved from apes?
 
Fairwinds said:
source?

you don’t have any, but try again.
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Really? I have shown proof before on here that evolutionists use C14 Ar-Ar or any form of dating to date far beyond a few thousand years and it is innacurate. LOOK IT UP!!!

Are you Christian? Or do you believe we evolved from apes?
 
Everyone i have argued with on this post, i want one person to show me proof that has been proven reliable that dates the world billions or millions of years old
 
landon13 said:
Everyone i have argued with on this post, i want one person to show me proof that has been proven reliable that dates the world billions or millions of years old
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Prove that the Earth is only 6,000 years old.
 
Kalaheo said:
Do you believe Adam and Eve were the first two human beings?
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I admit I know nothing of what the Church states on the matter.

My opinion, based on the probable age of the human race and Biblical geneology, is that Adam and Eve were likely the first humans to have an awareness of the God we worship today.
 
landon13 said:
Evolutionists don’t understand that. Evolutionists use C14 dating to date far beyond that. All methods of dating that give the earth an age more than a few thousand years old have been proven innacurate. And yes I do understand that. Do you???
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I think you are the one who is mistaken here. First, Carbon-14 dating is accurate out towards the 60,000 year mark and is the most frequently used method for anthropological sites. However, it is not the only method.

Radiometric dating with uranium is accurate to billions of years. Samarium-neodymium is also accurate to the billions of years as well.

These latter two methods, plus a couple others, agree to give an estimate of earth’s age in the 4.5 billion year mark.
 
The earth may be much older, but I believe that the human race is only 5773 years old.
 
Mkb617 said:
Ok stupid place to argue so I am done after this but… Given the fact I am sure everyone knew exactly what they meant by years in ordinal post… Asking what kind of years was just being a smart aleck… If someone asks how old you are would you really ask them well what kind of years do you mean?
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From the Merriam-Webster Dictionary. merriam-webster.com/dictionary/time
time noun (Concise Encyclopedia)
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Measured or measurable period. More broadly, it is a continuum that lacks spatial dimensions. Philosophers have sought an understanding of time by focusing on the broad questions of the relation between time and the physical world and the relation between time and consciousness. Those who adopt an absolutist theory of time regard it as a kind of container within which the universe exists and change takes place, and believe that its existence and properties are independent of the physical universe. According to the rival relationist theory, time is nothing over and above change in the physical universe. Largely because of Albert Einstein, it is now held that time cannot be treated in isolation from space (see space-time). Some argue that Einstein’s theories of relativity vindicate relationist theories, others that they vindicate the absolutist theory. The primary issue concerning the relation between time and consciousness is the extent, if any, to which time or aspects of time depend on the existence of conscious beings. Events in time are normally thought of in terms of notions of past, present, and future, which some philosophers treat as mind-dependent; others believe that time is independent of perception and hold that past, present, and future are objective features of the world.
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Robert_Sock said:
The earth may be much older, but I believe that the human race is only 5773 years old.
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There is a reason that we don’t have any proof of any humans living beyond approximately 122 years or so. Our bodies are designed to fail after a certain point. If humans lived several hundred years or so, which I assume you are using in your estimate, there must be humans with different DNA in our line (specifically, humans whose cells divided several times slower than ours, or cells that reproduce themselves with far less chromosomal damage than modern humans). No such evidence has been found.
 
TheWarriorMonk said:
There is a reason that we don’t have any proof of any humans living beyond approximately 122 years or so. Our bodies are designed to fail after a certain point. If humans lived several hundred years or so, which I assume you are using in your estimate, there must be humans with different DNA in our line (specifically, humans whose cells divided several times slower than ours, or cells that reproduce themselves with far less chromosomal damage than modern humans). No such evidence has been found.
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The estimate I’m using is simply the Jewish calendar. In Judaism, the year is 5773. This figure, according to Jews, is the the age of our planet and humans since the time of Adam. I tend to pay close attention to teachings of Chabad.
 
If the earth is only 5-6 thousand years old please explain dinosaur fossils and the sheer volume of bones found. I guess they must be fakes because these creatures would still be around if the earth is only 5000 years old and would be a part of human history.
 
Robert_Sock said:
The estimate I’m using is simply the Jewish calendar. In Judaism, the year is 5773. This figure, according to Jews, is the the age of our planet and humans since the time of Adam. I tend to pay close attention to teachings of Chabad.
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Given that even today there exist primitive humans that can’t keep calendars in this fashion, it is unreasonable to assume that humans popped into existence knowing how to keep track of time this way from day 1.
 
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