Does Darwin's theory of evolution contradict Catholicsm?

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rossum said:
Eventually those targets would be hit repeatedly over many generations resulting in the evolution of a Venus Flytrap from a Sundew-like ancestor.
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How do you even know that Venus Flytrap evolved from the Sundew ?
 
Here is the formula: time x a lot of random events = living organisms that can do a wide range of things. The more time the better. Imagine you have a flat panel with many, many holes drilled into it of different sizes. A “mutation” comes along but it can only fall through holes of a certain size, with the other holes being too small. Now, over a billion years or so, enough combinations occur to create a living product. In the end is the realization that the odds are the number one followed by way too many zeros to make it work out. The odds are so very low that being skeptical is a good idea.
 
edwest211 said:
Here is the formula: time x a lot of random events = living organisms that can do a wide range of things. The more time the better. Imagine you have a flat panel with many, many holes drilled into it of different sizes. A “mutation” comes along but it can only fall through holes of a certain size, with the other holes being too small. Now, over a billion years or so, enough combinations occur to create a living product. In the end is the realization that the odds are the number one followed by way too many zeros to make it work out. The odds are so very low that being skeptical is a good idea.
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Right, in nature everything has to work perfectly right out the gate.Everything is connected to each other, there is no time for evolution to slowly figure it all out.
 
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rossum said:
You need to learn more about how these two process interact, and what each process does. Currently you are making far too many elementary errors.
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Good advice.

Your posts are the epitome of patience and teaching excellence in a hostile environment.
 
Science is not suppose to reveal God or supernatural beings of any sort. Its a study of physical behavior and models are put forward to best describe that behavior. Natural evolution makes the best sense of the data. I don’t expect scientists to say there is a God or to admit of some proof of a supernatural cause. In fact i don’t want scientists to talk about God at all, i want them to do science. Their opinions about ultimate causes is their own philosophy; its not science.
 
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"What sorrow awaits those who argue with their Creator. Does a clay pot argue with its maker? Does the clay dispute with the one who shapes it, saying, ‘Stop, you’re doing it wrong!’ Does the pot exclaim, 'How clumsy can you be?

Isaiah 45:9

Everything obeys God, except Man and the Devil.
 
Techno2000 said:
How do you even know that Venus Flytrap evolved from the Sundew ?
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They are in the same clade: Family Droseraceae. There are around 200 species of Sundew and a single species of Venus Flytrap. The Venus Flytrap is confined to a small part of the overall range of Sundews. All that, as well as DNA sequences are evidence that the Venus Flytrap evolved from a species of Sundew.

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Techno2000:
How do you even know that Venus Flytrap evolved from the Sundew ?
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They are in the same clade: Family Droseraceae. There are around 200 species of Sundew and a single species of Venus Flytrap. The Venus Flytrap is confined to a small part of the overall range of Sundews. All that, as well as DNA sequences are evidence that the Venus Flytrap evolved from a species of Sundew.

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How long did the Venus Flytrap have to sit around waiting for its trap evolve and work ?
 
rossum said:
We have a good series of fossils showing the development of the mammalian ear in Therapsid reptiles, also known as “Mammal-like reptiles”.
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None of which prove anything. Imagination isn’t science.
 
Glark said:
None of which prove anything. Imagination isn’t science.
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So you are saying that the development of mammalian features in a reptile does not lend support to the idea of macro evolution?

You’re an invulnerable skeptic. In other-words your skepticism isn’t reasonable.
 
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Techno2000 said:
Blind,random,and unguided evolution knew that there would be clownfish for the sea anemone ?
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Incidentally. the fossil record provides a clear line of descent from clown-bacteria to clownfish to clown-amphibians to clown-reptiles to clown-mammals to clown-monkeymen to the very human clowns one sees at the circus. Evolution is incredible - without it there would not be one clown on earth to entertain children.
 
Techno2000 said:
So a random mutation told these Plants that they were going to have to “evolve” to eat insects in order to survive…I’m not buying it. How did the plants know that there would be insects available for them to eat…evolution told them ? And how long did it take evolution to get the trap to work?
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Just as there were humans prophets who could forsee the future, there were plant prophets that could forsee the future as well. Did I tell you about the how the fossil record provides a clear line of descent from bacterai-prophets right through to plant-prophets right through to human prophets?
 
edwest211 said:
Oh, you should just accept it. Or read a book titled “The Blind Watchmaker: Why the Evidence of Evolution Reveals a Universe without Design” by Richard Dawkins. It’s taken literally by some, but a “blind watchmaker” making a working watch? I don’t buy it.
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There is actually medication you can take to help you see how evolution can explain everything - it’s called LSD.
 
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