Does G-d Love Satan?

[bentcurve]

It is important to remember that God is unchanging. Therefore, the question is, did God love Satan?

Well, yes.

Okay, then God still loves Satan. It is Satan who rejected God, not the inverse, and therefore Satan is in the same boat as all other sinners.

The better question is, could Satan (assuming his actual existence) repent? I find this question to be more interesting.

And

Did Satan just do what he was designed to? If God is wise and knows all, and Angels do not have free will like man does, our primary distinction, then was Satan not just acting as he was supposed to?

 

[Mystic_Banana]

Mystic Banana
thanks for the reply

Every season has its time, and every Righteousness has its Glory. And what is Righteous is the fulfillment of God’s Word (which is Righteous) to the Father’s satisfaction, that He sees it good, hence, in His Presence. There is the revelation of His Word, in His Presence “let there be Light” and then the fulfillment of His Word in His Presence “and there was light”

Gen:1:4: And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

We know that God never changes, but creation changes to accommodate the Presence of God. Jesus Christ is the Truth the Way and the Life of God the Father fulfilled in human existence. According to the Word of God (Jesus is the Word) in God Presence (Holy Spirit). These are facts that we know. Therefore note all the covenants (agreements) between God and Man that God revealed by His Word in His Presence, no man could fulfill to God the Father’s satisfaction. But what we understand as the New Covenant is actually the fulfillment of all other covenants God revealed to men in His Presence, which could only be fulfilled by the Word of God in God’s Presence in the Son of man (human existence).

Therefore that which doesn’t agree to the fulfillment of God’s Word in His Presence, that would seek its own satisfactions would be where? Could it be darkness?

Therefore your example of nakedness, it is shame, and aren’t we covered by the Blood of Jesus Christ? Therefore our lack of what would satisfy the Father in human existence in covered by the Father’s satisfaction in human existence in His Son Jesus Christ forever. God need not see us through Adam, He now sees us through His Perfect Son Jesus Christ, which allows us to be in God the Father’s Presence. And have that shared relationship with the Father through the Son in the Holy Spirit that John speaks of in his first epistle.

But the blood of Christ was provided for us within a timeframe, and initially, I say again, it would appear we did not need clothes at all, and certainly this is what God appeared to be saying!

This is all by the by - there are all kinds of other rules and regulations that are brought in here and there, or rescinded. God may not change, but his expectations of us, our ability to follow his will, our understanding of him, and consequently the way we are expected by him to act, most certainly does change over time, as does what is right according not only to to the cultural/spiritual situation but the overall progression of our collective relationship with God

 

[StrawberryJam]

But the blood of Christ was provided for us within a timeframe, and initially, I say again, it would appear we did not need clothes at all, and certainly this is what God appeared to be saying!

This is all by the by - there are all kinds of other rules and regulations that are brought in here and there, or rescinded. God may not change, but his expectations of us, our ability to follow his will, our understanding of him, and consequently the way we are expected by him to act, most certainly does change over time, as does what is right according not only to to the cultural/spiritual situation but the overall progression of our collective relationship with God

When we hear how things can’t be understood because we just can not comprehend them, and look at how this God makes rules and ammends them, depending on things we will never understand now. Holy Cow!

 

[JackQ]

What do you think? If yes, why, since he separated himself from G-d? And does G-d love him as much as He loves the non-fallen angels, the prophets, the saints, Man, and other earthly creatures? If no, why not, since G-d created him and is thought to love all of His creation? I’m speaking here from a Christian perspective, since Satan may or may not exist in other religions; and, in Judaism, Satan is not seen as a fallen angel. But those of other religions, and also atheists and agnostics, are welcome to respond.

Yes. I believe that the burning love of God is the fire of hell to those who hate him.

 

[Mystic_Banana]

When we hear how things can’t be understood because we just can not comprehend them, and look at how this God makes rules and ammends them, depending on things we will never understand now. Holy Cow!

oh right. You’ve sort of got it

 

[billcu1]

meltzerboy

I do believe this is of your religion.

Isa:14:12: How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13: For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

They stuck lucifer in there. Originally the scriptures referred to the king of babylon. Saying “I will ascend into heaven.” Don’t forget Samyaza too. He did fall and is no longer an angel. Lucifer Lux-Ferrer or “light bearer” was removed from his position as an archangel because he thought he could do something good and interfered in man’s evolution and created ambition.

Bill

 

[billcu1]

No, Because he was thrown into hell, where God’s Love does not fill. He Loves His creatures yes, but those were His creatures before they completely severed themselves from God.

Hashem loves everyone.

 

[StrawberryJam]

Hashem loves everyone.

You would think.

 

[billcu1]

If the God of most brands Chrsitianity exists, then, yes he loves satan since love is supposed to be unconditional. The greatest love is love towards somebody who does not really deserve this love.
It dollow that it is possible for satan to be forgiven. Since satan is supposed to have free will, it is possible that satan will repent is be forgiven.

Satan or to Jesus it was probably ShaTAN sounds like it might have had some zorastarian influence. Satan and Lucifer I do not believe came until later on in Christianity. What does the t’noch say about Lucifer saying though I will place my throne in the sky? I bet you won’t find it. Just King James placing things in the bible about witches. James was a very wicked man and wouldn’t want the people to have any truth about anything. But I will repeat a parable of a lost son as would haShem would act if “satan” came home. This father waited and waited until his son’s inheritance was up and he came back home and there was much joy. Don’t think the end of the bible is necessarily the end of things.

 

[StrawberryJam]

Satan or to Jesus it was probably ShaTAN sounds like it might have had some zorastarian influence. Satan and Lucifer I do not believe came until later on in Christianity. What does the t’noch say about Lucifer saying though I will place my throne in the sky? I bet you won’t find it. Just King James placing things in the bible about witches. James was a very wicked man and wouldn’t want the people to have any truth about anything. But I will repeat a parable of a lost son as would haShem would act if “satan” came home. This father waited and waited until his son’s inheritance was up and he came back home and there was much joy. Don’t think the end of the bible is necessarily the end of things.

I can agree with your theology.If only you could focus on the beggining and not the end.