Does God call people to be separate from Catholic Eucharist

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Alex337 said:
Right above, they were talking about couples that God has made one flesh. 😊
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NOT.

I’ve known people who seek out those who physically and mentally abuse them; I know people who have “married” those who are engaged in illegal affairs (drug, gun, and other forms of trafficking; crimes; drug abuse…) do you actually believe that God is “bringing” those people together?

Maran atha!

Angel
 
I am Catholic, and therefore I have the great privilege of defending the Catholic faith. But this privilege comes with a hardship. I don’t always accept this hardship, and therefore shrink away from the author of faith!

I don’t claim to be any better than yourself. I am a weak man who struggles to uphold the faith in all things.

I am not criticizing you so much as the Quaker religion. I do not know you, so I have no right to judge you. And I have my own sins to reconcile with Jesus!

But some statements which you make, and your religion are at great odds with the Catholic faith. It is natural for me to doubt your personal revelations are from God!
 
Maybe you should chat with @rcwitness instead of me; he said marriage with abuse is valid in the eyes of God.
 
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Out of curiosity, do you have any examples of ancient Greek which support your claim that porneia can mean physical abuse?
 
Alex337 said:
It’s the exception to the marriage they were just speaking about, friend. He was speaking about a marriage joined in the eyes of God and then gave the exception for when it can be broken.
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No.

Jesus is speaking to the illicit marriages; those who man have joined together as in the case of incest, marriage for profit/power, forced marriages, homosexual unities…

It is simplistic to think that Jesus offers Christian an out from the Sacrament of Marriage by pointing out that ‘first there must be adultery involved; then it’s ok to get divorced and remarried.’

He never states such fluidity; rather, look at how harsh it is that the Disciples then growl, ‘hey, if we are to get stuck with one woman, tis better to remain unmarried.’

Jesus corrects them by stating that Celibacy is a Gift from Heaven that few can withstand; to this difficulty St. Paul commands that the Believers who cannot exercise self-control should get married so as not to burn with desire and give into the temptation to engage in sex outside of marriage.

Maran atha!

Angel
 
rcwitness said:
I am Catholic, and therefore I have the great privilege of defending the Catholic faith. But this privilege comes with a hardship. I don’t always accept this hardship, and therefore shrink away from the author of faith!

I don’t claim to be any better than yourself. I am a weak man who struggles to uphold the faith in all things.

I am not criticizing you so much as the Quaker religion. I do not know you, so I have no right to judge you. And I have my own sins to reconcile with Jesus!

But some statements which you make, and your religion are at great odds with the Catholic faith. It is natural for me to doubt your personal revelations are from God!
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As much as I like you I feel it is time to point out that you do talk in circles and you do twist things a bit, just like the quote I asked you to consider.
 
Alex337 said:
Maybe you should chat with @rcwitness instead of me; he said marriage with abuse is valid in the eyes of God.
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Not exactly! I said if a person enters into marriage while believing it is ok to commit violence to their spouse, there is a good chance that person is rejecting God’s involvement in the bond.

A marriage still exists, but one that is NOT Christian, and therefore may be dissolved.

However, if the couple exchanged vows in proper Christian faith, yet fell into abusing behavior later, the Christian marriage is valid and cannot be dissolved.

In this case, they may separate with legal protection of the victim, yet unable to remarry. For the law of marriage in the Lord remains.
 
Had this circular argument already. And in all honesty it doesn’t even impact my life; I’m not divorced :roll_eyes:

So in short; you have your interpretation. Good for you. I have a different one. And I don’t actually mind if you agree or not as my faith isn’t dependant on that.
 
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Circular?

But that’s all you’ve offered.

You have special revelation that all paths lead to God so you are pleased that others do not find your way but your way is God’s inspired and la la la…

Regardless of the intent to demonstrate Jesus’ Teachings you simple go back to ‘many paths; I have special revelation; all are right by God; just choose your poison.’

So yeah, call me circular as you engage the world from your merry-go-wrong.

Maran atha!

Angel
 
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jcrichton said:
Circular?

But that’s all you’ve offer.

You have special revelation that all paths lead to God so you are pleased that others do not find your way but your way is God’s inspired and la la la…

Regardless of the intent to demonstrate Jesus’ Teachings you simple go back to ‘many paths; I have special revelation; all are right by God; just choose your poison.’

So yeah, call me circular as you engage the world from your merry-go-wrong.

Maran atha!

Angel
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Well, you keep asking me why I think a thing; so if you don’t want the same answer don’t ask the same question. I already had a long, circular talk on this. If you’re actually interested just read up on the thread.
 
This is my thread, which is directly related to Holy Eucharist. Do you participate in Eucharist???
 
Still ignoring you as you were insulting. I’m happy to talk if you stop claiming I’m not Christian. If not, don’t bother.
 
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You are asking me to mull things over–that’s like arguing that the sky is blue or water is wet; those are simple qualifiers and not the whole essence of the thing.

Maran atha!

Angel
 
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