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Chanel
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Here’s my arbitrary comment:
If God was intelligent, there would be no genetic defects or bad mutations.
If God was intelligent, there would be no genetic defects or bad mutations.
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edwest2
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ID is a better explanation than textbook evolution. However, the idea of an intelligence goes against the cold, uncaring universe that did not have human beings in mind idea. That will also continue to be the primary reason it’s rejected.
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Charlemagne_II
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*If ID is used as a substitute for the Gospels (and it may be for some), then I would fully agree with your concern. *
I agree. But for others it may be a gateway to the gospels. We can never know how many will fall in each group.
I agree. But for others it may be a gateway to the gospels. We can never know how many will fall in each group.
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chanel
If God was intelligent, there would be no genetic defects or bad mutations.
We don’t know why God allows genetic defects or, as you call them, bad mutations (not sure if there is a difference … could you explain the difference?).
But I’m not so sure that a genetic defect is a sign of no intelligence in God, especially if you set the occasional defect beside the vast gene pool that is normal and super-normal.
There may be a reason for genetic defects that we cannot fathom … a reason that satisfies God even though it may trouble us.
There is, of course, a genetic defect in every human being and every other living thing … we are all going to die. Would God have been more intelligent to make us so that we could never grow old and never leave our bodies?
If God was intelligent, there would be no genetic defects or bad mutations.
We don’t know why God allows genetic defects or, as you call them, bad mutations (not sure if there is a difference … could you explain the difference?).
But I’m not so sure that a genetic defect is a sign of no intelligence in God, especially if you set the occasional defect beside the vast gene pool that is normal and super-normal.
There may be a reason for genetic defects that we cannot fathom … a reason that satisfies God even though it may trouble us.
There is, of course, a genetic defect in every human being and every other living thing … we are all going to die. Would God have been more intelligent to make us so that we could never grow old and never leave our bodies?
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tonyrey
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Your comment is certainly arbitrary because it is based on the unsubstantiated hypothesis that all random mutations can be favourable. Are you arguing that the process of evolution is defective? If so you need to explain how it could be made perfect…Here’s my arbitrary comment:
If God was intelligent, there would be no genetic defects or bad mutations.
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Detales
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Originally Posted by Chanel
*Here’s my arbitrary comment:
If God was intelligent, there would be no genetic defects or bad mutations.*
That’s kind of like saying “If men and women were intelligent, they wouldn’t make mistakes.” Making "mistakes"in a situation of newness, eg Thomas Edison’s famous 1000attempts at a light bulb filament, is exactly how intelligence may proceed. Or, you, for instance trying of many outfits before selecting one appropriate for the occasion. The horror of that, then, might be: what kind of a God do we have? If the God is a “person,” then uh-oh, we have a problem with explaining evil, and have to make up a story. If God is Principle, then the manifest world is simply an act of continuous creation by exploration, and we have to see ourselves as having an altogether different kind of relationship with God, probably not that of discreet entities in a “train set” creation God is playing with.
Explaining evil and shortcomings by a so called “fall” is naive, as that can as well have an entirely different significance given the nature of our presence on the planet. That different possibility is far more exciting than the “we’re here to earn a place in heaven after we die” scenario. It can be seen to be much more immediate than that, and carry an equal responsibility.
*Here’s my arbitrary comment:
If God was intelligent, there would be no genetic defects or bad mutations.*
That’s kind of like saying “If men and women were intelligent, they wouldn’t make mistakes.” Making "mistakes"in a situation of newness, eg Thomas Edison’s famous 1000attempts at a light bulb filament, is exactly how intelligence may proceed. Or, you, for instance trying of many outfits before selecting one appropriate for the occasion. The horror of that, then, might be: what kind of a God do we have? If the God is a “person,” then uh-oh, we have a problem with explaining evil, and have to make up a story. If God is Principle, then the manifest world is simply an act of continuous creation by exploration, and we have to see ourselves as having an altogether different kind of relationship with God, probably not that of discreet entities in a “train set” creation God is playing with.
Explaining evil and shortcomings by a so called “fall” is naive, as that can as well have an entirely different significance given the nature of our presence on the planet. That different possibility is far more exciting than the “we’re here to earn a place in heaven after we die” scenario. It can be seen to be much more immediate than that, and carry an equal responsibility.
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