Does Islam worship a "false god" or the same god differently?

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drac16 said:
From what I understand of Catholicism, it’s a strictly trinitarian faith, where as Islam is strictly unitarian. Catholics believe that God is three persons [Father, Son and Holy Spirit], while muslims believe that God is a single person. There’s no question that we worship different gods-- don’t listen to liberals that contend otherwise.

I suppose it’s possible that some unitarian christians worship the same god as us muslims, but catholics are not unitarians, as far as I know.
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Is this the “official” or consensus Muslim position, if there is one?
 
drac16 said:
I don’t know much about church history
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Finally a proper answer. You are atleast being truthful and humble enough to admit this. I wish you would start studying it and make understand why we worship like we do. I’m also saying the same thing to those Bible alone Christians.

God’s Peace be with you.

MJ
 
jakasaki said:
Unfortunately there is no historical or archaeological evidence, that suggests that Mecca ever existed before the 4th century A.D., when immigrants from Yemen settled the area, and built their Kaaba in the early 5th century A.D.

historyofmecca.com/

The link to the Ka’aba is in that site
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Thank you kindly.🙂

God Bless.

MJ
 
ok think about it like this … when Judaism came to conflict with early christianity , did Judaism suddenly stopped worship the same god ? of course no.

God is God , however our interpretation and understand of God differ. The muslim understanding of God is kindergarten and full of many misrepresentation , yet I cant say that they worship another God, therefore.
 
Muslims worship the Great Deceiver himself. Muhammad is either a fraud or he was deceived by a demon. It can be no coincid. If you do not believe in the that Islam has been the most anti-Christian force the world has ever known. They reject Jesus aas God the Son. They say that he was an Islamic prophet who did not die on the Cross.

The god of Islam is a false god. The idea that they worship the Holy Trinity in a flawed way is arrant rubbish and contrary to the plain words of scripture. Same goes for the Jews.
 
arabic_catholic said:
ok think about it like this … when Judaism came to conflict with early christianity , did Judaism suddenly stopped worship the same god ? of course no.

God is God , however our interpretation and understand of God differ. The muslim understanding of God is kindergarten and full of many misrepresentation , yet I cant say that they worship another God, therefore.
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Yes they did. They rejected God when he went about amongst them. They stopped worshipping him there and then.
 
Indifferently said:
Muslims worship the Great Deceiver himself. Muhammad is either a fraud or he was deceived by a demon. It can be no coincid. If you do not believe in the that Islam has been the most anti-Christian force the world has ever known. They reject Jesus aas God the Son. They say that he was an Islamic prophet who did not die on the Cross.

The god of Islam is a false god. The idea that they worship the Holy Trinity in a flawed way is arrant rubbish and contrary to the plain words of scripture. Same goes for the Jews.
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Muslims do not worship Muhammad; they worship Allah, which is the Arabic name for G-d. No, they do not worship a Trinitarian G-d, and neither do the Jews.
 
R_C said:
It’s quite simple :o They pray to the God of Abraham and Isaac. So do the Hebrew. So do we.

However, we have received the word of the Son of God, who revealed us that the One True God is One Nature in Three Divine Persons - Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Thus we claim to have the fullness of the divine revelation, or the spirit of truth that the world cannot receive.

That does not mean that we worship a different God, nor that they worship a different God. He simply revealed Himself to us more fully. They simply affirm that what we have received is not true. Still they address God in their prayers.

Look at it this way: if I am an old friend and I come to you after many decades and you don’t recognize me and insist on keep talking to me over the phone, you are still talking to me, but perhaps you don’t know me as much as the friends that recognize me and speak to me face to face. But you are still talking to me over the phone. It’s kind of simple-minded reduction, but I hope it makes sense. Other religions simply don’t address the living God of Abraham and Isaac, they address other deities. All that is good in their religion comes from God and leads towards God and the Gospel, but they are not addressing the One True God.

To go beyond this would be “politically incorrect” and probably not allowed on the forum. We would have to go over the Sacred Scriptures of each religion, and how they came to be, for example. For a Catholic all we need to do is hold on to the teaching we have received:
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Thank you 🙂
 
All I have to say is if any religion thinks something needs to be restored or reformed in any manner other than what Jesus said and done then yes, they all believe in a false god.
 
meltzerboy said:
Muslims do not worship Muhammad; they worship Allah, which is the Arabic name for G-d. No, they do not worship a Trinitarian G-d, and neither do the Jews.
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He was referring to Satan “The Great Deceiver” or the “The Father of Lies”.

MJ
 
RKO said:
It seems to me that some say they worship a “false god” in order to justify a lot more anti-myslim sentiment. Of course, I guess I’m a liberal apostate because I think anybody who worships any god worships the one god the best way they know how…
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I believe they worship a false god
 
MartinJordan said:
He was referring to Satan “The Great Deceiver” or the “The Father of Lies”.

MJ
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I thought so too at first. But the second sentence about Muhammad led me to believe otherwise. In any case, if that is so, as we say in French: “tant pis!” (so much the worse!).
 
meltzerboy said:
I thought so too at first. But the second sentence about Muhammad led me to believe otherwise. In any case, if that is so, as we say in French: “tant pis!” (so much the worse!).
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You have point! The 2nd para I did not read carefully.:o Thanks for the heads up:)

I don’t agree with him then. 😛

MJ
 
scipio337 said:
I disagree. I know the position of the Church, but during my studies of Jewish culture and of Islam, I find that there are 99 “names” of Allah, which are more attributes. Ar-Raḥmān, “the compassionate”, Ar-Raḥīm, “the merciful”, etc.

In Judaism, things are quite different. A name is not merely an arbitrary designation, a random combination of sounds. The name conveys the nature and essence of the thing named. It represents the history and reputation of the being named.

This is not as strange or unfamiliar a concept as it may seem at first glance. In English, we often refer to reputation as his “good name.” When a company is sold, one thing that may be sold is the company’s “good will,” that is, the right to use the company’s name. The Hebrew concept of a name is very similar to these ideas.

The primary Hebrew name for God follows this example, “YHWH”, (I am, to be), , the similar Ehyeh-Asher-Ehyeh (I am that I am).

Nearly all other names or “attributes” of God are used in place of these holy names, as writing, or even speaking them are forbidden, to protect them from defamation. See “Adonai” (Lord), “Ha Shem” (the name), “Adoshem” (a combination of the two), etc.

There is also a very different relationship between man and God in both. That, and the several descriptions of Allah as a “schemer” of “decieving” in the Quran lead me to believe them to be entirely different. It may be that Muhammed borrowed what he knew about Judaism and Christianity to Islam, and the Arab culture then gave it a very different bent.
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