Does Islam worship a "false god" or the same god differently?

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he does not necessarily need eyes to see or feet to stand or a nose to smell .

now the reason why some moderate Muslims use the word Allah instead of God is that they consider the word god to have gone so low when seeing Jesus as god because now you have god almighty being thirsty, ignorant of the seasons , tempted by Satan, defenseless against few stones thrown at him and worst : powerless god : “I can of my own do nothing” even when god is not being even as Jesus we have in the bible : god who is , gealous , hissing , roaring , barber , and murders few thousands of men looking for a box .

of course all of that is not agreed with by our brothers the Muslims so I guess they wildn’t mind if we consider Allah to be different from our god

lol I’m now suffering with my mobile’s auto corrective because it always suggests god with small g instead of big G which I guess is another lowering of the word God

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Archangelic said:
They worship a misrepresentation of the One True God.
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Really? Okay how? I mean where is God the creator of heaven and earth a misrepresentation of the One True God?

Is God the God of Abraham the God who created heaven and earth a misrepresentation of the One True God?
 
Archangelic said:
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that is correct according to each monotheistic religion to the other two

but we can all agree that He is one creator of the universe , our creator , source of the divine guidance to the prophets . now we might disagree about his charactiristics and he would either have those characteristics or not but it has nothing to do with that we all worship him

let us not fall in the trap of the atheist who enjoys our confusion with One divine all hearing all seeing all knowing almighty God . let’s agree 🙂
 
Archangelic said:
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The only thing that I can say is while they do not see God the Father Almighty creator of heaven and earth being the same One True God, made up of the 3 persons of the Trinity, they still do not worship a false god.

If I prayed to Jesus am I disrespecting the Father and the Holy Spirit?

If I prayed to the Holy Spirit am I disrespecting the Father and the Son?

If I prayed to the Father am I disrespecting the Son and the Holy Spirit?

When I pray to the One God the Father Almighty am I not praying to all of the above?

Just because someone does not have the grace from God to see all truths, does not make the truths that ones has false. Thats what we seem to be saying here.

Its if you cannot see God as the Father and Son and Holy Spirit, you only have the grace to see the One true God as the Father Almighty you are praying to a false god.

Forgive me for not understanding what you are saying. I have tried so hard but cannot understand.

I was taught there is only ONE GOD. Rather you pray to him as the Father the Son or the Holy Spirit it does not matter. GOD is GOD!

I see absolutely no sin whatsoever sitting with a Muslim and praying to God the Almighty Father creator of heaven and earth, and do not see myself as praying to a false god.

But you have yet to explain to me how they can be praying to a false god praying to the God of Abraham, and yet we pray to him also and are praying to the One True God?

You have failed to show me where they are different. Could you do so?

They have no misrepresentation of the One True God. They are praying to the God of Abraham our God.

Now if you were to say they do not have the true understanding of the One True God that has been revealed to us by Jesus Christ, I can agree with you.

If you say they follow the teachings of a false prophet, Again I agree.

But to say they pray to a false god. No agreement here.

There is only One True God, the Father Almighty the creator of heaven and earth, And we both pray to the same God.

If their God is false so is ours. Because he is one in the same. Unless you can enlighten me and show me the difference.

Then I will gladly apologize.
 
let’s simplify this
Muslims worship whoever is the creator of the havens and the earth and call him Allah
Catholics worship whoever is the creator of the heavens and the earth and call him God

if Allah is False then so is God . then only Atheism is correct xD
let’s at least unite against the growing materialism because we all know how dangerous it is 🙂
 
LogicPlease said:
let’s simplify this
Muslims worship whoever is the creator of the havens and the earth and call him Allah
Catholics worship whoever is the creator of the heavens and the earth and call him God

if Allah is False then so is God . then only Atheism is correct xD
let’s at least unite against the growing materialism because we all know how dangerous it is 🙂
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Correction:

English speaking Christians call the creator "God:

Foreign speaking Christians call the creator different names based on their language.

English speaking Muslims call the creator “Allah” - not God

Foreign speaking Muslims call the creator “Allah” - regardless of their native language

Why is that…??
 
Archangelic said:
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As long as they worship a loving, merciful and just God, they are not worshiping a misrepresentation of God.

Here are some misrepresentations of God - God is jealous, God is angry, God is violent (that he kills innocent people), God orders massacres, God is unforgiving, God condemns babies/children to eternal damnation in hell
 
openmind77 said:
As long as they worship a loving, merciful and just God, they are not worshiping a misrepresentation of God.

Here are some misrepresentations of God - God is jealous, God is angry, God is violent (that he kills innocent people), God orders massacres, God is unforgiving, God condemns babies/children to eternal damnation in hell
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I agree!👍
 
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rinnie:
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So what you are saying is because they do not see God as God the Son and God the Holy Spirit only God the Father it makes God the Father a false God??
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Exactly. How can you logically say otherwise? And please stop with the 99 adjectives. The God of Abraham is triune in essence. The god Muslims worship is not. They are DIFFERENT.

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MissyB786:
Rather than comparing the characteristics of God, and according to some peoples logic it therefore means we worship a different/false God.

I worship the true ONE God, that is the creator of the universe, of mankind, of the earth of the universe, of love, of peace.

Therefore by worshiping the creator as do Christians, not creation as some other religions do ie cow/elephant etc…, it is the same God. We may describe God with different characteristics. I do not deny that God does not have the characterstics of Mercy, Peace, Love as we have that in Islam to. the only difference is the Trinity and son of God but with regards to His characteristics, I don’t think any Christian would deny our description of God is false. I give you below the 99name of God, if there is any one you disagree with please tell me.

The Greatest Name
The All-Compassionate
The All-Merciful
The Absolute Ruler
The Pure One
The Source of Peace
The Inspirer of Faith
The Guardian
The Victorious
The Compeller
The Greatest
The Creator
The Maker of Order
The Shaper of Beauty
The Forgiving
The Subduer
The Giver of All
The Sustainer
The Opener
The Knower of All
The Constrictor
The Reliever
The Abaser
The Exalter
The Bestower of Honors
The Humiliator
The Hearer of All
The Seer of All
The Judge
The Just
The Subtle One
The All-Aware
The Forebearing
The Magnificent
The Forgiver and Hider of Faults
The Rewarder of Thankfulness
The Highest
The Greatest
The Preserver
The Nourisher
The Accounter
The Mighty
The Generous
The Watchful One
The Responder to Prayer
The All-Comprehending
The Perfectly Wise
The Loving One
The Majestic One
The Resurrector
The Witness
The Truth
The Trustee
The Possessor of All Strength
The Forceful One
The Governor
The Praised One
The Appraiser
The Originator
The Restorer
The Giver of Life
The Taker of Life
The Ever Living One
The Self-Existing One
The Finder
The Glorious
The One, the All Inclusive, The Indivisible
The Satisfier of All Needs
The All Powerful
The Creator of All Power
The Expediter
The Delayer
The First
The Last
The Manifest One
The Hidden One
The Protecting Friend
The Supreme One
The Doer of Good
The Guide to Repentance
The Avenger
The Forgiver
The Clement
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hmmmm…curious.

I’ll make you a deal. You add to this list “Savior” and I will at least agree Muslims think they worship the same God as Christians do.

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Hmmn, I believe I could demonstrate that the historic ‘Allah’ referred to by Muhammad appears as a patch and match of his Quraysh polythistic ‘moon god’, the zoroastrian ‘one god’ and aspects of the Judeo and Christian God of Abraham.

In view of ‘Allah’ having historically supposedly given Muhammad firstly ‘Satanic Verses’ which were later ‘abrogated’ {kinda placed on the back burner], and the verse in the Qur’an that refers to ‘Allah’ being the best/greatest of decievers, and that title not being one attributed to the Christian God, nor indeed is it an attribute of the Jewish sense/understanding of Yahweh - the attributes of their God are bound up by TRUTH.

ps. According to the Qur’an isn’t Satan the best/greatest of deceivers? Oh, and doesn’t he also have lots of names? Mark 5:9 - Douay-Rheims Bible
‘And he {Jesus] asked him {Satan]: What is thy name? And he saith to him: My name is Legion, for we are many.’
 
RKO said:
It seems to me that some say they worship a “false god” in order to justify a lot more anti-myslim sentiment. Of course, I guess I’m a liberal apostate because I think anybody who worships any god worships the one god the best way they know how…
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Christians and Jews used the tern Elohim or Elaha for God. which means God.In west christians mainly used the term Adonis or Adonai .In normal prayers , traditional christians or jews does not use the term Jahovah frequently, instead of this they uses these terms. Allah means Al Ilah - Means The- God. An Arabic version of this term. In syriac Alaha means God ( a term used by syriac christians).
 
jerry_joseph - The historic meaning of ‘Allah’ is ‘The God’, and was used by polytheists to differentiate their particular/favourite god from the others, Arab Christians later used the term to separate God from the pagan/polytheist gods.
 
Mount_Carmel said:
jerry_joseph - The historic meaning of ‘Allah’ is ‘The God’, and was used by polytheists to differentiate their particular/favourite god from the others, Arab Christians later used the term to separate God from the pagan/polytheist gods.
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Allah is abrabized term for God. Arab Jews and Arab Christians used this term long before the origin of Islam. In hebrew the term used to denote God is Elohim. In Syriac it is known as Elaha or Alaha means God. In Arabic the term Allah is used to denote God which is originated from the term Al -Elah.

All religious generally uses the english term" God" to denote their worshiping deity. It is same like that only.
 
RKO said:
It seems to me that some say they worship a “false god” in order to justify a lot more anti-myslim sentiment. Of course, I guess I’m a liberal apostate because I think anybody who worships any god worships the one god the best way they know how…
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Same God, but Muslims believe Jesus to be nothing more than a prophet.
 
concretecamper said:
Exactly. How can you logically say otherwise? And please stop with the 99 adjectives. The God of Abraham is triune in essence. The god Muslims worship is not. They are DIFFERENT.

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So. Explain to me then if there is ONE GOD, how the God of Abraham is different then the triune God.

BY the way if it means anything to you the RCC also disagrees with you.

CCC 841 The plan of salvation also INCLUDES those who acknowledge the Creator, in the First Place amongs whom are MUSLIMS, these profess to hold the faith of Abraham and TOGETHER with US they ADORE the ONE MERCIFUL GOD mankinds judge on the last day.

Now please show me where it states that the Muslim God is different from ours, when together with us they adore the one merciful God?

This is not my teaching, or opinion. This is the CCC.
 
[QUOth Cccrinnie;10815627]So. Explain to me then if there is ONE GOD, how the God of Abraham is different then the triune God.

BY the way if it means anything to you the RCC also disagrees with you.

CCC 841 The plan of salvation also INCLUDES those who acknowledge the Creator, in the First Place amongs whom are MUSLIMS, these profess to hold the faith of Abraham and TOGETHER with US they ADORE the ONE MERCIFUL GOD mankinds judge on the last day.

Now please show me where it states that the Muslim God is different from ours, when together with us they adore the one merciful God?

This is not my teaching, or opinion. This is the CCC.

All the CCC says is that Muslims profess they hold the faith of Abraham. It does not say they hold the faith of Abraham. I made the challenge earlier…to add the name Savior to the list of 99. Maybe redeemer then?
 
Whosoever revolteth, and continueth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God.
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Loving_disciple said:
The Muslims us two worship many gods. Then Muhammad came around he made the moon god Allah the main god. Allah to Catholics and Christians is just an other idol which is falsely praised. However we should respect others beliefs but tell them the truth as well
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Can you support this?
 
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