Does Islam worship the same God?

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Often Christianity is lumped together with Judaism and Islam as monotheist religions. I understand and accept that the three all worship only 1 God, but am questioning whether Muslims believe in the same God as Christians.

For instance, why would it be necessary for God to send another prophet, Mohammad, after Jesus? Jesus was not a prophet, but God…so for what necessity would God need to send a prophet after Jesus? Additionally, Muslims claim Jesus was only a prophet and even touch on the Blessed Mother in the Koran. While this seems to make them similiar to the God of Christianity, they still seem way off in their beliefs compared to both Christians and Jews. Islam itself means “submission.” Muslims I have meant, and much of what I have read, interpret this to mean a lack of free will. Perhaps I am misinterpreting…but, if not this is drastically different than Christian theology that puts great import on the doctrine of free will.

Also, while we have fundamentalist that are violent in Christianity we don’t seem to have the identical problems of Islam in that you are either Muslim or you are wrong. Our God preaches love for neighbor and that each person is judged upon death. I hate to lump all Muslims together, but feel that their religion lacks many substantial qualities of Christianity. As a result, I wonder whether they should be considered to worship the same God? Thoughts?
ah, one of the age old questions…
first of all, all three religions agree that God is what he is, and does not change, BUT that human understanding of Him is… lets say “faulty at best”

now, Christians believe that Christ was the Messiah, and God.

Jews believe the Messiah has not yet come, and Jesus was not a Prophet or God.

Muslims believe, if i recall correctly, that either the Messiah has not come, or will only come AFTER the kingdom of God is at hand, and that Jesus was a Prophet… a great Prophet, but only a Prophet, and that Muhammad was the last Prophet of God.

all three believe they are worshiping “the God of Abraham and the prophets”.
but. obviously… two of them must be mistaken in HOW they are worshiping Him and what they believe… at least to some extent.

i will state that the best argument i ever heard against Islam is this one:
Islam teaches that Jesus was a Prophet, and therefore all his prophecies are true… for a Prophet of God is NEVER wrong. BUT they also teach that Jesus did NOT die on the cross, but another was killed in his place… BUT Jesus said he must be crucified…
 
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Jesus was more than a Prophet; He was THE Prophet, spoken of by Moses, who would be even as he was - and how was he? “Go, Moses, you will be as God to these people, and Aaron will be your prophet.” Jesus is as God to us.
"…the one who is feeble among them in that day will be like David, and the house of David will be like God, like the angel of the LORD before them. Zech 12:8

But if you want to know whether the Muslims worship the same God, just ask them whether they accept the Son of God – whoever denies the Son does not have the Father.

Remember that even in the intention to worship God, you could worship satan, just as the Jews in Jesus’ day did.
“You are of your father, the devil…”

And I garauntee you that Islam is satan worship, in this sense.
 
having nothing to do with this one… love your tag line! i have that mini series…
 
**Hello all and good morning,

wow, good night’s sleep and I wake up into what Christians say what Muslim’s believe to be true but are actually clueless of what they believe. Has anyone asked a Muslim about your comments? Or all these just assumptions that you claim you know better than they about their religion? Just a thought eh?
Muslims believe, if i recall correctly, that either the Messiah has not come, or will only come AFTER the kingdom of God is at hand, and that Jesus was a Prophet… a great Prophet, but only a Prophet, and that Muhammad was the last Prophet of God.
Muslims believe that Jesus was one of the Mightest Messengers of God (on him peace). We believe that he did not fulfill all his mission and will come back for his second coming to do just that. He will not bring anything new but will fulfill his calling. We believe he was risen up into Heaven to await for his second coming. We believe he taught the ONENESS of God. Like all the other messengers and prophets of God (peace and blessings be upon them all). We believe he was born of the virgin mary may Allah be pleased with her ameen). We believe he was born miraculously~with no intervention. We believe he is not the son of God, for God is not in need of sons or daughters or any creation. God is the Supreme, the Sublime, and no one is comparable unto HIM.
Muslims believe that God does not preserve His words…at least not until after Muhammad Bin Abdallah was born.
This is false. God does and can by all means preserve His words. We don’t judge God. (That is yall’s job) We believe that messages have been sent to CHOSEN messengers of God, and that the messages were not made to be preserved…what happened happened…what did Moses not preserve the ten commandments? were they broken? is the Torah still in tact? Is the Zaboor (Psalms) 100% authenticated? NO to all the above…so we say that it was maktoob (not meant to be/meant to be this way) Some say that Jesus didn’t mean to have things written down but apostles did later on (what/who gave them that authority). Islam says he was given a book entitled “the Injil” all the main messengers were given a book, Moses~the Torah, Dawud (David)~the Zaboor, Isa (Jesus)~the Injil(Gospels), and Mohammad~the Quran.

What Allah says in the Quran states exactly what has happened to the previous books. What is in the Quran is the compilation of all the previous books. This is what is preserved now and hasn’t been changed since.

Man were entrusted to preserve, to obey, to teach but men are sinful and are easily distracted away from God’s messages~that’s why He sent so many prophet’s and Messengers. But the final message, man, that’s it…had to end one day and who’s the best to safeguard it? man or God?
But if you want to know whether the Muslims worship the same God, just ask them whether they accept the Son of God – whoever denies the Son does not have the Father.
Remember that even in the intention to worship God, you could worship satan, just as the Jews in Jesus’ day did.
“You are of your father, the devil…”
And I garauntee you that Islam is satan worship, in this sense.
In the Bible, Jesus denies even being good and you laugh at Muslims? Jesus claims that there is only one god and that is the God in Heaven and you laugh at us? Jesus claims he is the son of man and you laugh at us? Bible claims Jesus is a prophet and you laugh at us? Books are not authorized and you laugh at us? The Gospels are not kept sound and you laugh at us? Our fault? Muslims? Who seems to be worshiping without proof?
if you want to bash the Christian faith, you will have to bash Jesus’ apostles’ and their disciples, before you bash the NT …that is why, you and other Muslims are scandalized by our reaction to “who wrote this or that” and simply cannot understand that like the book written by Jesus, this is another problem in your mind, not ours. Simply put, if the apostles’ disciples and their disciples and other disciples who quoted the nowadays NT starting the first century, if they knew who they took their teachings from and was good for them, it is good for us even if we do not have a video recorder
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I am not bashing, am asking simple logical questions. The NT was not written by Jesus and some were not even eye witnesses to Jesus entirely…LIKE PAUL…the tax collector that he saw in a dream etc…now 2 Timothy he claims the resurrection is HIS GOSPEL…(You laugh at us?) How can this be advantageous to your side of belief if you cannot prove that Jesus even told them to write it down or has a book himself?

and you laugh at us? shame on yall

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whereas we follow a whole church started by many apostles and disciples of Jesus.
**But the main “apostle” (whose letters/teachings are dominant in the whole NT, wasn’t really an apostle of Jesus but a self-declared/appointed one whose teachings are basically anti-Christ.

So you are actually following a church of a self-appointed “apostle” and his party/Church…Very Good…

No wonder if Jesus Christ would tell even to the leaders of your Chruch “on that Day”: "Depart from me I never knew you, you…"**
 
Salaam/peace
No, Islam has a god based on cruelty and violence. I see no similarity between the God of the Christians and the Allah of Mohammed.

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huh …ever read O T ?

If Christians believe Jesus (p) is God & He was always there , then surely Jesus (p) allowed all the killings & other cruelities ?

Jesus (p) inspired Moses (p) to kill all the men & keep alive the young women for soldiers ; Jesus (p) inspired David (p) to kill thousands & thousands …should I go on ?

There is only one true God without partner . Muslims submitted themselves to God . Unfortunately Christians worship more dieties besides one God —that’s the difference between us .

May God keep us all safe from blasphemy / shirk. Pl. remember God warned us in all major holy books that He will punish those who worship besides one God.

a related verse from holy Quran :

Indeed, the one who associates anything with God,

God will forbid him the Garden and his abode is the Fire

(Al-Maidah 5:75).
 
**But the main “apostle” (whose letters/teachings are dominant in the whole NT, wasn’t really an apostle of Jesus but a self-declared/appointed one whose teachings are basically anti-Christ.

So you are actually following a church of a self-appointed “apostle” and his party/Church…Very Good…**
Paul could not function without the agreements of the other apostles. He is not a self-appointed apostle but one who is adamant of making up for his evils of the past. He was merely taking up Jesus’ cross and taught Jews and Gentiles alike on Jesus’ love and His promises. Paul’s teachings do not contradict that of Jesus’. You falsely blame him for creating Christianity. If that was the case, the other apostles would have admonished him. They knew he was only reiterating what Jesus had already taught the other apostles. **
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No wonder if Jesus Christ would tell even to the leaders of your Chruch “on that Day”: "Depart from me I never knew you, you…"
No, He said no such thing to our Church leaders. You twist our Scripture to suit your need to disregard the Church’s teachings.

Jesus did warn us from listening to false prophets and their followers.
 
There is only one true God without partner . Muslims submitted themselves to God . Unfortunately Christians worship more dieties besides one God —that’s the difference between us .

May God keep us all safe from blasphemy / shirk. Pl. remember God warned us in all major holy books that He will punish those who worship besides one God.
Actually your Qur’an teaches you Allah does have a partner. Mohammad.

“Lo! Allah and Allah’s angels shower blessings on the Prophet. O’ you who believe! Be courteous to him and submit yourselves to him with full submission”.** - **Qur’an 33:56

And something about Mohammad getting a big share in heaven? I forgot which hadith mentioned this but i think inJesus or Sam_777 knows something about this. Its unusual that a mere prophet be glorified above Allah.
 
And something about Mohammad getting a big share in heaven? I forgot which hadith mentioned this but i think inJesus or Sam_777 knows something about this.
Maybe you mean this one:

**Muslim, Book 004, Number 0747: **
“'Abdullah b. Amr b. al-As reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: When you hear the Mu’adhdhin, repeat what he says, then invoke a blessing on me, for everyone who invokes a blessing on me will receive ten blessings from Allah; then beg from Allah al-Wasila for me, which is a rank in Paradise fitting for only one of Allah’s servants, and I hope that I may be that one. If anyone who asks that I be given the Wasila, he will be assured of my intercession.”
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Maybe you mean this one:

**Muslim, Book 004, Number 0747: **
“'Abdullah b. Amr b. al-As reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: When you hear the Mu’adhdhin, repeat what he says, then invoke a blessing on me, for everyone who invokes a blessing on me will receive ten blessings from Allah; then beg from Allah al-Wasila for me, which is a rank in Paradise fitting for only one of Allah’s servants, and I hope that I may be that one. If anyone who asks that I be given the Wasila, he will be assured of my intercession.”
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Yes. Thank you Sam_777. Which person in the right mind would listen to a selfish, self-centered prophet who says things like that? Definitely not a Christian!
 
Salaam/peace
Actually your Qur’an teaches you Allah does have a partner. Mohammad.
pl. don’t spread lies – we all will be accountable for our deeds & words on the last day.

Quran as well as ALL holy books teach that God is one without partner.

“And your Lord has decreed that you worship none but Him…17:23

To Him belongs whosoever is in the heavens and on earth.

And those who are near Him (i.e., the angels) are not too proud to worship Him, nor are they weary (of His worship).”

[al-Anbiya’ 21:19]

“Verily, I am Allaah!

None has the right to be worshipped but I, so worship Me, and perform al-Salaah [prayer] for My Remembrance.”

[Ta-Ha 20:14]

To be a Muslim , one must believe that :

There is nothing divine or worthy of being worshipped except for Almighty God,

and Muhammad (p) is the **Messenger and Servant **of God".
“Lo! Allah and Allah’s angels shower blessings on the Prophet
Lo! Allah and His angels shower blessings on the Prophet.

O ye who believe!

Ask blessings on him and salute him with a worthy salutation

(Al-Ahzab 33:56).

in the daily prayers , Muslims ask God to bless the last Prophet as God blessed Prophet Abraham/ Ibrahim (p). This supplicatin is called Darud e Ibrahim/ Abraham (p).

O Allah!

Send Your mercy on Muhammad (p) and on the family of Muhammad (p), as You sent Your mercy on the family of Ibrahim (p);

and send Your blessings on Muhammad (p) and on the family of Muhammad (p), as You sent Your blessings on the family of Ibrahim (p) among all the worlds.

You are Most Praiseworthy, Most Glorious.

related link:

islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503548926
 
Salaam/peace

Quran as well as ALL holy books teach that God is one without partner.

“And your Lord has decreed that you worship none but Him…17:23

“Verily, I am Allaah!

None has the right to be worshipped but I, so worship Me, and perform al-Salaah [prayer] for My Remembrance.”

[Ta-Ha 20:14]

There is nothing divine or worthy of being worshipped except for Almighty God,
So therefore Jesus Christ can’t be worshiped because…?
 
Salaam/peace

because he was a messenger of God.

Believers must worship the Creator only , not His creations.
Says you. Let’s face the facts: this argument will go nowhere because Catholics will continue to believe what Catholics believe, and Muslims will continue to believe what Muslims believe. Obviously, we both believe we belong to the One, True religion. Otherwise what is the point in belonging to the religion that we belong to if we didn’t believe it to be true?
 
pl. don’t spread lies – we all will be accountable for our deeds & words on the last day.

Quran as well as ALL holy books teach that God is one without partner.
Sure, the Qur’an wants His believers to submit to Him. I won’t deny what God asks His people to do. But this isn’t a lie:** “Lo! Allah and Allah’s angels shower blessings on the Prophet. O’ you who believe! Be courteous to him and submit yourselves to him with full submission”.**** - **Qur’an 33:56

Allah is in fact demanding His followers to submit themselves to Mohammad. Should we not submit ourselves to Him alone? Why is Allah changing His mind in this aya? Unless the aya was dictated by Mohammad to his scribes so they may write wonderful things about him and at the same time, demand his followers to bid as he says.

And Muslims claim we corrupted our Bible? Your Qur’an is making a mockery of Allah’s status by letting Mohammad get all the glory.

**Muslim, Book 004, Number 0747: **
“'Abdullah b. Amr b. al-As reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: When you hear the Mu’adhdhin, repeat what he says, then invoke a blessing on me, for everyone who invokes a blessing on me will receive ten blessings from Allah; then beg from Allah al-Wasila for me, which is a rank in Paradise fitting for only one of Allah’s servants, and I hope that I may be that one. If anyone who asks that I be given the Wasila, he will be assured of my intercession.”
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You don’t think that is weird?
 
I think its time to post those Muslims laws that Brother Bolos (is it) has brought up - the Coptic Priest? LOL
 
Salaam/peace

because he was a messenger of God.

Believers must worship the Creator only , not His creations.
If you worship the same God, respect the words of God: Israel forever belongs to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. No matter the wrath of man against this word - God will turn it to His praise - God laughs in the heavens and scoffs at the men who plan to remove Israel from the map! Ps 2
Islam is in direct contradiction of the eternal ordinances of God in their anti-semitism.
Only remember that every evil person who has ever risen up against the Beloved of God, Israel, has summarily been lost to history.
Touch the apple of God’s eye, and you will see how much God loves them (Ezekiel 38)…
Most assuredly, your god is not the God of Israel.
He is giving everyone space to enter the Kingdom of Heaven; as for the people who die without hearing or believing into Jesus (because they have not heard, or they have not seen the power of God displayed) I do not know what happens to them, but God is merciful, I’m not condemning you; however, God Himself will curse those who curse the people of Israel…
Yet the madmen continue to make plans as if God did not have power, or exist… why?
“You curse the proud, who stray from Your laws” - they don’t respect the WORDS of our God!
“Kiss the hand of the Son (the Word John 1:1, 14)” Ps 2 “lest you be destroyed from the way when His anger is kindled but a little.”
Your god is not our God.
Our God is in covenant with Israel, and the Word of His Covenant He will not alter nor will He change. Ps 89:34
 
Father Zakariya Boutros, yes. I posted a video of that (the 10 demands) from Youtube a while ago…he is, shall we say, not popular with our Muslim friends. Personally, I love the man! 👍
 
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