Does Islam worship the same God?

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But the main “apostle” (whose letters/teachings are dominant in the whole NT, wasn’t really an apostle of Jesus but a self-declared/appointed one whose teachings are basically anti-Christ.

did your extensive history research reveal to you that churches were established by Paul?

we know why you hate Paul so much…that’s because he prophecised against Muhammad in clear words but heck Muhammad still plagiarised his words and ibn kathir still called him a messenger…the problem with islam is that it cannot survive without pointing fingers to everyone else.

Jews who join this forum read the NT and understand it…they read what Paul writes and see them in Judaism and Jesus’ words. it is only Muslims who do have difficulties because they neither know Judaism nor Christianity, thanks to a book written haphasardly without any harmony, misrepresenting both, thinking they got all the truth by telling us Allah has no partners , as if we believe in this in the first place…but since Muhammad said it, then Muslims will teach us what we believed in hundreds of years before muhammad was born as a pagan, just because Muhammad cannot be wrong.
 
Unfortunately Christians worship more dieties besides one God —that’s the difference between us

.no, i’ll tell you what the difference is. The difference is that we believe that Allah and His Word and His Spirit are One. You believe that Allah’ Word and Spirit are partners since Allah is wisdomless and spiritless. Now, before you tell me you believe Allah has wisdom and spirit, please note that this is the Trinity, the tauhid of Allah, His Word and His Spirit, and NOT partners, NOT Mary. Every single Muslim believe we worship 3 deities because Muhammad got it wrong but nobody wants to admit it yet Muslim’s misunderstanding betrays the denial.
 
There is only one God. So to the extent that Muslims worship one God they worship the same God we do.

However the Muslim **understanding **of God is entirely wrong. The character of “God” that emerges from the koran is a mixture of seventh century Arabian warlord with psychopathic personality disorder and petulant child.

Since the koran was largely compiled by a psychopathic seventh century warlord this is not surprising.

In as much as it is possible for humans to understand God our Bible and the teachings of the Church are the best guide.

Remember this. Muslims are Islam’s greatest victims.
 
Maybe someone can give me the name of 1 Biblical prophet who was sent because Jews corrupted God’s words…
 
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Muslims believe that Jews, and Christians, corrupted the Word of God. That, according to Muslims, is why God sent Muhammad as his “final” messenger.

Study the koran and the ahadith and you will soon see how preposterous is the claim that that Muhammad was a messenger from God.
 
Sure, the Qur’an wants His believers to submit to Him. I won’t deny what God asks His people to do. But this isn’t a lie:** “Lo! Allah and Allah’s angels shower blessings on the Prophet. O’ you who believe! Be courteous to him and submit yourselves to him with full submission**”.** - **Qur’an 33:56

Allah is in fact demanding His followers to submit themselves to Mohammad. Should we not submit ourselves to Him alone? Why is Allah changing His mind in this aya? Unless the aya was dictated by Mohammad to his scribes so they may write wonderful things about him and at the same time, demand his followers to bid as he says.
Misinterpretation !!

The proper one is :
  1. Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet: O ye that believe! Send ye blessings on him, and salute him with all respect.
Like :Peace be Upon him
 
Maybe someone can give me the name of 1 Biblical prophet who was sent because Jews corrupted God’s words…
**Sir, I advice you to first read your Catholic Holy New American Bible before coming to this forum.

Did not the Mosaic law order tithing of the produce of the land, according to Deuteronomy 14 & Leviticus 27?

But this law got extended even to the smallest herbs as it’s imposition reached the period of Scribes (of Jesus Christ time).

This extension was not by God but by people like Scribes (who are very strongly condemned by Christ --Matthew 23) and it was thier corruption/innovation that made Jesus Christ to critise them in very harsh (‘clasiical’) words as it shows “the Pharisees’ preoccupation with matters of less importance while they neglect the weightier things of the law.”** – See New American Holy Catholic Bible

Now who were the Scribes and the Pharisees? An another official Catholic Bible commentator(s) explains:

“*The scribes and Pharisees”… The scribes were the doctors of the law of Moses:
the Pharisees were a precise set of men, making profession of a more exact observance of the law: and upon that account greatly esteemed among the people. *

As you see, the corruption to the tithing law was done by the very doctors of the Law of Moses and Pharisees were preoccupied with matters of less importance while they neglect the weightier things of the law.

If you deny this fact, then the harsh words used by Jesus Christ (in Matthew 23) are meaningless.

Do you think if Jews were following the same Mosaic law wholeheartedly without any corruption/addition and have not killed any of their Prophets, then God still would have sent them Prophet Jesus Christ to cure their “diseases”?

Here you may say Jesus Christ was not a prophet. Then let me tell you Sir, he is an antother prophet sent to Children of Israel but they gave him hard time, as usual:

“For Jesus himself gave testimony that a prophet hath no honour in his own country” …Mark4:44
 
Salaam/peace
Allah is in fact demanding His followers to submit themselves to Mohammad.
God sent Prophets (pbut ) to all nations .

Whenever a Prophet came to his people , it was a must for them to accept him , obey him as they spoke on behalf of God Almighty.

Jews were cursed by God because they did not listen to Jesus (p) . Does it mean that Muslims believe or God told us that Jesus (p) was a diety ? Not at all .

It is/ was a must for any believer to obey Muhammed (p) as he taught what God ordered him to do so.

related verses on the last Prophet (p) :

Nor does he speak of (his own) desire. It is only an Inspiration that is inspired".

(An-Najm 3,4)

O people of the Scripture! (Jews and Christians):

“Why do you disbelieve in the Ayat of Allah, (the Verses about Prophet Muhammad SAW present in the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)) while you (yourselves) bear witness (to their truth).”

Chapter #3, Verse #70)

He it is Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad SAW) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islamic Monotheism) to make it victorious over all (other) religions even though the Mushrikoon

(polytheists, pagans, idolaters, and disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah and in His Messenger Muhammed SAW) hate (it).

As-Saff, Chapter #61, Verse #9
 
Jesus was the Prophet John 1:21 spoken of by God:
“I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.”
Deut 18:18-20

of which the Saducees wished to know if John was…
“…Art thou that Prophet?..” John 1:21

If this Prophet were to be as Moses, there is a peculiar requirement, which is fulfilled in Isaiah 9:6

" For unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder: and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

that is, He must be sent “as God”:

"THE LORD said to Moses, ‘Behold, I make you as God to Pharaoh [to declare My will and purpose to him]; and Aaron your brother shall be your prophet.’ " Exodus 7:1

Jesus was God to us, as was prophesied in Isaiah, which is how we receive the eternal life (Spirit) of God, when Jesus shed His blood for our sins on the cross. God will not live in a temple which has sin, as ours’ do; when we believe in the sacrifice which Jesus made for us, to die in our place, as Daniel 9:26 spoke about, we are cleansed of sins because of His work, not because of our works, and we express our love and gratitude to Him with our lives; we do not do works to be saved; we rest in the salvation of God, which is Jesus’ name “God is salvation”.
What good work did Adam ever do to receive the blessing of God in the garden of Eden? Nothing. If you have children, you will understand. Love is just because - no “reason”; this is how God loves us, and saves us - not because we deserve, but rather because of it demonstrates His goodness…

Just thought you might like to think about that! 😃
 
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There is only one God. So to the extent that Muslims worship one God they worship the same God we do.
However the Muslim understanding of God is entirely wrong. The character of “God” that emerges from the koran is a mixture of seventh century Arabian warlord with psychopathic personality disorder and petulant child.
Since the koran was largely compiled by a psychopathic seventh century warlord this is not surprising.

In as much as it is possible for humans to understand God our Bible and the teachings of the Church are the best guide.

Remember this. Muslims are Islam’s greatest victims.

Correction, you are WRONG…PLEASE PROVIDE YOUR PROOF. You are rude in your incorrect assumptions and accusations… and the church doesn’t tell you everything (many things are kept secret)…why can’t yall go straight to God instead of having intermediaries? God is there, no one worthier of being worshiped…so why go to priests to ask for forgiveness? You will not be standing in front of the priest on the Day of Judgment will ya??? The victims you state are nonetheless from your church who are not being told the truth.

It also occurs to me that at the time the Q’uran was been written America was generally unknown and yet to be discovered. Who were all these prophets the native tribes were receiving? Since Mohammed is the last prophet they can’t have gone there after it was generally known and mapped since Mohammed was long dead by then
Actually, Christopher Columbus had Muslim guides accompanying him on his journey and there were Muslims that had already presided there before he “so called discovered” it…don’t know how they gave that to him…people were already on the continent.

I am cherokee by origin and there were many cherokee muslims before the advent of the “discovery of america”…or the killings from the savages…oh wait, “civilized savages”.

americanrevert**
 
There were Muslim Native Americans prior to the arrival of Columbus? Where can I read more about this from objective sources?

I have never heard such a thing.
 
Sir, I advice you to first read your Catholic Holy New American Bible before coming to this forum.

thank you for reminding me…
This extension was not by God but by people like Scribes (who are very strongly condemned by Christ --Matthew 23) and it was thier corruption/innovation that made Jesus Christ to critise them in very harsh (‘clasiical’) words as it shows “the Pharisees’ preoccupation with matters of less importance while they neglect the weightier things of the law.”
 
I think it makes sense to say Judaism, Christianity and Islam are monotheistic religions that worship one God. Generally speaking, theologians and philosophers in these religions recognise that other faiths that worship one God have a deep affinity with their own, even if they don’t have the same idea or concept of God. I think one can say Jews, Muslims and Christians believe in the same God in the sense there is only one God and no other God, but that does not mean that is saying the religions are the same.
 
I think it makes sense to say Judaism, Christianity and Islam are monotheistic religions that worship one God. Generally speaking, theologians and philosophers in these religions recognise that other faiths that worship one God have a deep affinity with their own, even if they don’t have the same idea or concept of God. I think one can say Jews, Muslims and Christians believe in the same God in the sense there is only one God and no other God, but that does not mean that is saying the religions are the same.
James 2:19
You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.
 
**Actually, Christopher Columbus had Muslim guides accompanying him on his journey and there were Muslims that had already presided there before he “so called discovered” it…don’t know how they gave that to him…people were already on the continent.

I am cherokee by origin and there were many cherokee muslims before the advent of the “discovery of america”…or the killings from the savages…oh wait, “civilized savages”.

americanrevert**
Oh dear, you are falling for that??

Can you tell me where Jesus is buried according to Islam’s claims?
 
Salaam/peace
…Can you tell me where Jesus is buried according to Islam’s claims?
Jesus (p) did not die —yet.

when he will die after his second coming , I read that there is an empty grave beside the grave of Prophet
Muhammed ( p) .

Jesus (p) will be buried there at Madina , Saudi Arabia.
 
Salaam/peace

Jesus (p) did not die —yet.

when he will die after his second coming , I read that there is an empty grave beside the grave of Prophet
Muhammed ( p) .

Jesus (p) will be buried there at Madina , Saudi Arabia.
So does this mean when he dies, he will cease to live in heaven as well?
Or does this death mean he goes to heaven?
If so, since he is in heaven, why does he have to die then go back to heaven?
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Jesus (p) did not die —yet.

when he will die after his second coming , I read that there is an empty grave beside the grave of Prophet
Muhammed ( p) .

Jesus (p) will be buried there at Madina , Saudi Arabia.
Some Muslims claim Jesus is buried somewhere near Kashmir or Jammu, India. Some claim He is buried in Talpiot, Jerusalem. Others claim He was buried as far away as Japan.

Now you are claiming Jesus’ empty grave is beside your prophet. Can Islam make up its mind?

Muslims continue to utter false, blasphemous claims because of what is in the Qur’an, but nobody is allowed to say anything about your beloved mortal prophet whose status is elevated even higher than Allah. 😦
 
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