Does J.Lo Want Every Little Girl (and Boy?) to have a Chance at Pole Dancing In Life?

[Future_Catechum]

I don’t know Shakita. I believe that J. Lo grew up in the Bronx, NY, not a Latin country. So she ought to be aware of other cultures besides her own.

And secondly, no one year is forced to watch these “entertainers”. Sounds mighty bad for the kids.

Kids need G rated TV watching. EWTN for religious programming (they have it in Spanish and English).

For secular watching, there’s Harry Potter, and Mary Poppins, and The Wizard of Oz.

There are still public libraries, thank goodness. Get children a library card so they learn to read, and then read to learn.

Send children to Catholic School, Bible class. My parish has a group for the little girls - the Daughters of Mary.

Let children go to Church on Sunday, and spend quality time with their families.

Keep them away from sexualized performances.

 

[Bruised_Reed]

I had the vaguest idea she had a movie out and couldn’t tell you the name. I think I saw her when she was promoting it on a late show but I did not see her in the film.

Sorry about those 2 hours of your life. I know that feeling well, unfortunately.

 

[hvizsgyak]

They are Puerto Rican (born and raised there until college). I have been to Puerto Rico many times and the people seem the same as here that’s why I question my relatives view. I don’t see this oversexed culture that they see. I see happy, hardworking people.

 

[Greenfields]

Definitely not family friendly.,and its feeding something that isn’t good for the soul
I like some music from now,but I never watch the clips as they are gross .Being the norm in so many music clips doesn’t make pole dancing any more acceptable.
There’s nothing liberating in becoming more of an object for lust .

 

[jzea1992]

Sadly I think most are just desensitized at this point. It’s also not okay the uniforms that little girls and teens wear in sports like volleyball/gymnastics and cheerleading. Doesn’t leave much to the imagination and most parents are okay with it. Why is okay for them to dress like during a sporting event but it’s not okay to wear that attire for adult women at the gym. It’s all just one big giant confusing mess.

 

[GordonP]

What is the “Super Bowl” anyway??? Some new religion?

No, actually. It’s an old religion, and at one point became an important aspect of Christianity in the Eastern Roman Empire. The supporters of the two most popular chariot teams in Constantinople, the Blues and the Greens, disagreed violently not only on which team was better, but also on political and theological issues. It got so bad that they burnt down a good chunk of the city, including the Great Church in Constantinople (the predecessor of Hagia Sophia), and the Emperor ended up ordering the massacre of 30,000 fans on both sides. See:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nika_riots#Riots

 

[hvizsgyak]

Mercy and forgiveness is used by Jesus on many occasions in the Gospels but when he did use them they were always followed with “Go and sin no more” comment. Now Jesus knew and we know that the person who was asked to sin no more would probably sin again. Think of the comment as Jesus giving the sinner a “shot across the bow” about what they are doing is wrong so stop it. I see no desire from J.Lo or Shakita to want to receive God’s mercy and try to stop their sinful nature.

 

[hvizsgyak]

My wife watched the halftime show on youtube and told me about it. Plus, I haven’t watched football for years.

 

[Bruised_Reed]

My point is that NFL cheerleaders dress about the same (fewer sparkles though :sad face and similar dance moves (minus the dances from their respective cultures). NFL cheerleaders are there every week but only JLo and Shakira get called out. I’m not singling you out but asking every person who criticized JLo and Shakira why they don’t call them out, especially going forward.

 

[Bruised_Reed]

No, cheerleaders.

 

[Poet]

If you have to make things up so something looks bad it must not be all that bad.

WHAT? What do you even mean by this? Are you accusing me of making things up? Or are you saying the poster to I replied made things up or that Jennifer Lopez made something up?

I have no clue what you’re even trying to say.

 

[Bruised_Reed]

You insinuated that JLo said pole dancing was a part of Latino culture.

 

[VeryBlessed]

Is there anyway to get our young women and men turned away from this highly sexualized culture that many entertainers feel is the norm?

The pill and it’s near universal acceptance has ushered in a new age for humanity, with a new god. Our new god is sex without consequences. All culture must bow to this god. But we who follow the true God can resist, walk counter culturally, and help others find the true God who gives “life in abundance”.

 

[Poet]

The superstar continued, “Both of us are really respectful performers who are moms and have kids and are very conscious of what we do. We [put on] a show that I believe was a celebration of women and our Latino culture that I think was really well reserved.

If you have to make things up so something looks bad it must not be all that bad.

You insinuated that JLo said pole dancing was a part of Latino culture.

Unless the first quote is wrong and was never said by Jennifer Lopez, she did in fact say that her show, which included pole dancing, was a celebration of Latino culture. Ergo, it’s entirely fair to ask, only half tongue in cheek, if she actually believes pole dancing is part of Latino culture.

Perhaps you could ask for clarification next time instead of jumping straight to accusing of someone of lying.

And since it appears you like word games and will likely claim you never used the word ‘lie,’ let’s be done with the games and admit that ‘making things up’ IS ‘lying.’

Feel free to send an apology for calling me a liar.

 

[ZMystiCat]

Its main worship services are typically conducted on weekends and Monday nights.

By this definition, baseball is the most Catholic of sports, since teams play throughout the week, often 3 - 4 days in a row, rather than just waiting for the major event days like Wednesday or Sunday.

 

[rf9661]

Just a heads up which I thought you all would find interesting: Jennifer Lopez’s two children, one son and one daughter, were both placed into Catholic schools in Miami. Both are all-boys and all-girls. The all-boys is a Jesuit one.

Just a fun fact

 

[Bruised_Reed]

I do not see how someone could conclude that JLo was including pole dancing. Did you think her daughter singing Born in the USA was Latino culture? Or bellydancing or zaghrouta? The show included those too.

will likely claim you never used the word ‘lie,’ let’s be done with the games and admit that ‘making things up’ IS ‘lying.’

Pretty close. I sometimes think extreme exaggeration is tantamount to lying because its misleading. It really depends ones intent; is one intending to mislead others or being dramatic.

 

[Bruised_Reed]

It also has quite a few scandals it tries to hide, just like religions.

 

[Peeps]

I would like to interject a positive note into this depressing thread.

I love football!

I think it’s an amazing and fascinating game with endless combinations and permutations and constant thrills and spill. No game is ever the same, and just when you think you’ve seen it all, something new happens. I think that football players are among the best athletes in the world–it’s amazing that they can run, jump, throw, catch, hit and take hits, and then do backflips–250 lb men doing BACKFLIPS!–to celebrate a successful play! Now that’s athleticism!

For me, football epitomizes the old Wide World of Sports slogan, “The human drama of athletic competition.”

Football brings people together, people of all ages, sexes and sexualities, colors, races, ethnicities, socio-economic levels, educational levels, political parties, and religions. I, an old white woman, have been involved in lively discussions with groups of young black men over certain plays and players–it’s the way the world should be, where color, age, sex, etc. don’t matter.

My daughter met her husband because of football (she was 14), and seven years later when he came to us and asked us for permission to marry our daughter, he told us, “I never thought I’d meet a girl who loves and understands football.”

In the U.S. business world, it’s wise to have at least an understanding of football, and also an appreciation of the fandom and respect for those who love the game. Those who don’t at least know something about the game and the current teams and players will often end up left out of discussions and activities that could help them advance in their career.

When we are watching the games at home, we seldom see the cheerleaders, so we don’t know if they are dressed scantily or not. If the game is played in an outdoor stadium, there’s no way the women could be wearing something scanty, not when the temperature is below freezing. Maybe for a quick dance routine, but not through the entire game. But who cares? We’re watching the game, not the cheerleaders.

In our city, high school football is awesome, and it’s always a thrill when one of our young men makes it into the NFL. Football is why many of our young men stay in school and work to achieve a passing grade in all their classes. Without this game, many of the young men would drop out and become part of the jobless crowd. It gives them a reason to go to school–yes, I know that many of you think that kids should go to school to learn reading, writing, and STEM, but that’s not the way it is for everyone.

I LOVE the Superbowl! It’s such a lift in the middle of a cold, dark, Midwestern winter! So much fun, and especially this year, when the team I was rooting for won! And I’ll never forget that when we brought our second baby (the football-loving daughter) home from the hospital, we sat down and watched the Chicago Bears win the Superbowl! Funny that she grew up to be a Packers fan!

I agree that the Superbowl half-time shows are often raunchy. IMO, the way to stop raunchiness is to bring something better to the table. I hope that someday, a fine Christian musician or group will be invited.

 

[Poet]

not see how someone could conclude that JLo was including pole dancing. Did you think her daughter singing Born in the USA was Latino culture? Or bellydancing or zaghrouta? The show included those too.

(Please Note: This uploaded content is no longer available.) Poet:

will likely claim you never used the word ‘lie,’ let’s be done with the games and admit that ‘making things up’ IS ‘lying.’

That’s your problem with basic logic if you can’t see how “I just pole danced” and “We just celebrated Latino culture” might lead some people to ask…What the heck, when did pole dancing become Latino culture?

That you are unable to see this does not entitle you falsely accuse others of making things up and I find that disgusting behavior on a Catholic forum of all places, to simply launch FALSE ACCUSATIONS without so much as clarifying why someone actually said what they did.