Does J.Lo Want Every Little Girl (and Boy?) to have a Chance at Pole Dancing In Life?

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What the heck, when did pole dancing become Latino culture?
Perhaps they are being disingenuous then. I gave example of other parts of the performance that were not Latino and they aren’t mentioning those.

Pole dancing is officially a sport so I hope people can see it in a different light
 
We do. JLo was in a movie a played a stripper who pole danced.

So what you are seeing are stills, or clips of the parts of the performance that some have a problem with. You realize how exaggerated this is. I could show you stills or clips from figure skating and gymnastics that look the same.

There was only one move, one that JLo did more than once, that I’m surprised no one has said anything about. But I also think I know why it’s not mentioned. 🤔

And when will people realize feminism isn’t about being better than men but about having the same agency. Why aren’t the same people calling out Adam Levine for actually stripping last year?
 
Honestly, I expected worse when I saw the backlash. Then I watched the performance and I was too caught up in the talent and energy to notice anything. So I watched it again.

They should’ve worn clothes that are at least slightly more covered (crotch shots and butt cheeks are completely unnecessary), but I frankly didn’t find it as extreme as what was being reported. Of course, the news and stills are probably the culprit because they kept showing the worst. But you would have to have sex or modesty on your mind to be immediately offended imo. I do think many conservatives are guilty of that, ironically.

That being said, I obviously wouldn’t say the performance was not sexual. That’s taking it too far. I’m just surprised people were really, really offended over it. Most people by now know who J.lo and Shakira are. You shouldn’t be surprised, lol!
 
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Most people by now know who J.lo and Shakira are. You shouldn’t be surprised, lol!
Are you implying that a sporting event with people beating up on each other while scantily-clad dancers cheer them on and which is frequently interrupted by sexually-explicit (or at least suggestive) commercials about alcohol is not family friendly?

Oh, no, it’s just the halftime show that was clearly not meant to be family friendly!

Edit: Just to make it clear, this post was meant to be playful. The mention of J.Lo’s and Shakira’s reputations was, to me, kind of funny given how the entirety of the Super Bowl doesn’t really convey a family-friendly nature.
 
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From our Gospel reading today: “I say this to you: if a man looks at a woman lustfully, he has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”

So, based on these words, here’s the question: Was the lust of men encouraged by this performance?

I say, yes it was. Adultery was being committed in the hearts of men around the world, and it was presented for our lust by the people who broadcast the Superbowl. Shame on them!

What parts of a woman’s body (J-lo’s or Shakira’s) were not exposed? Nipples? Vagina? Anus? There was little that was left to the imagination - but the imaginations of men were, nonetheless, fully engaged.

I saw with my own eyes what was being exposed. I’m a man. When I see scantily clad physically attractive women gyrating to a beat - on a pole no less - I get aroused - and I’m not a minority among men. The vast majority of men who see these things will respond the same way I do.

Now I’m being told - on a Catholic forum website no less - that this is “Latin” culture. Really!?!

I’ve been around the block more than a few times, and I’ve known plenty of beautiful, dignified, virtuous and honorable Latinas, and NEVER in my life of observation would I EVER consider what was performed at the Super Bowl as being ANYTHING WHATSOEVER associated with the noble and beautiful culture of Spanish speaking women OR men. What occurred during that halftime event was sinful, shameful and an insult to Latin people everywhere - especially Latin women.

How do I explain to my beautiful and innocent grandchildren that what they saw during this filthy performance was somehow normative or acceptable? I cannot. And, I will not!
 
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Now I’m being told - on a Catholic forum website no less - that this is “Latin” culture. Really!?!
Stop it. All of you. No. One. Has. Said. This.

Ard y’all just now stumbling on some trad post about the half time show? Because it was two weeks ago already.

Still want to know why there’s no mention of last years halftime show.

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From our Gospel reading today: “I say this to you: if a man looks at a woman lustfully, he has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”
Definitely. The gospel also talks about cutting off your arm if it causes you to sin.

In this context, it would be switching it off the moment you know it’s going to be Shakira/Jlo. Or possibly not even watching at all because of the cheerleaders/ads.

Your post seems very blamey. These people will have to answer to God, but the men watching are going to be held accountable because they chose to sin as well.
 
The point was the fallen away Catholics I know were never properly taught. The faith has never been properly modeled or taught to them.

The rules are rules and the “go and sin no more” shouldn’t be used as an excuse to never teach one’s children or model to one’s children the faith.
 
Honestly being out and about in wider American society there is no furor.

The furor is probably just here in CAF. 🤷‍♀️
 
Definitely. The gospel also talks about cutting off your arm if it causes you to sin.

In this context, it would be switching it off the moment you know it’s going to be Shakira/Jlo. Or possibly not even watching at all because of the cheerleaders/ads.

Your post seems very blamey. These people will have to answer to God, but the men watching are going to be held accountable because they chose to sin as well.
I think we have to be careful. God created men, and becoming aroused at the sight of a beautiful woman is not a sin, it’s a learned NORMAL reflex that God made so that the human race will continue.

A man’s sex drive is one reason he seeks out a woman to marry and father children with, and staying with his wife and helping her rear those children is a way that he can expect more sexual experiences throughout his lifetime.

What’s sinful is dwelling on arousal and allowing it to burn and eventually catch fire when the object of the arousal is not a man’s wife, and of course, ACTING on that arousal by pursuing a sexual experience. (I hope I’m phrasing this in an acceptable way.)

In many countries, women routinely bare part of their bodies that in the U.S., would be considered provocative and often against the law. It’s interesting that the men in Africa don’t become aroused at the sight of bare-breasted women in their villages. That’s why I said, “learned reflex.”

Male coaches generally do not become aroused at the sight of their scantily-clad athletes (e.g., figure skating, gymnastics, track and field, swimming, volleyball and beach volleyball, basketball, etc.). If they do have problems with arousal around their athletes, they have to learn to deal with it or get out of the sport–to stay in a setting where they are constantly burning would be dangerous for the women and the coach! But for the most part, it’s not a problem for male coaches–we have been part of the figure skating world for years and years, and we know of only a few coaches who became predators on their students. But most don’t.

Same for gay coaches and male students, BTW–they don’t routinely get aroused by the sight of their male athletes.

One more thing–my husband tells me that when he was a teenager, he would get aroused by the sight of the Sear’s Catalog bra ads! He would get aroused at the sight of his grandmother’s bra strap showing! MOST teenaged boys learn how to control their natural tendency towards pursuing sexual activity, and learn to deal with unexpected “arousal.”

And there are men who become aroused when they see fully-covered women–the eyebrows, or the lips, or the eyes appeal to some men! So should women do as some Muslims’ do–fully cover themselves from head to toe? Well, it seems that even that isn’t enough to stop men from becoming aroused! It’s normal physiological response in men, created so that the human race will continue!

If a man was becoming aroused by the Super Bowl halftime show, he could have walked away and filled up his chip and dip bowl.

I hope this post is helpful.
 
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I think the show was no less scandalous than most concerts or videos we see these days. JLO and Shakira are known for how they dress and dance, I was not expecting anything different. Now the question is if we accept it as a normal dress code for performers or we want higher standards. From a worldly point of view, as a woman, I think we are fighting for equality and for men not to objectify us, so it sends confusing messages. Like “look me in the eye when I speak to you”, but I wear things that make it impossible for a guy to do that. As a Catholic woman, modesty is important and I have no desire for anyone to see too much of me or for people to see me in a certain way. Still, though I believe they see no harm in their actions, it is good that voices were raised questioning what is being sold to viewers as art and entertainment and for them to know that they do not represent all working mothers or Latinos. I just think that they follow a trend; Beyonce, Rihanna… they need to compete and that is how they know how to. Does not make them bad, they just need to find God, put Him first and the rest will follow.
 
These women were not selling women’s empowerment, fitness or any other virtue. The were selling sex.

I personally think the message to girls should be that they can be modest and reserved with their sexuality and the right man will respect and love them one day. The argument that they empower women or that this was about encouraging core strength is silly and disrespects everyone’s intelligence.
 
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