Does Midnight Mass fulfill the Christmas obligation?

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That would seem to be contrary to the precedence of liturgical days and what happens when there is a concurrence of whether to have Evening Prayer II of the current day or Evening Prayer I of the following day.

The solemnity of the Nativity of the Lord outranks the feast of the Holy Family. Therefore, shouldn’t we be saying Evening Prayer II of the Nativity and not Evening Prayer I of the Holy Family on Saturday 25th December 2010?
I checked the Liturgical Guide. For the USA, unless the local bishop decides otherwise, the Evening Prayer for this Dec 25 will be Evening Prayer II of Christmas, but it must be celebrated before the anticipated mass for Sunday. That would bring Christmas Day to a close, not the season, just the day. Parishes may opt NOT to have an Sunday evening mass on Dec 25.

Peace and grace this Christmas and always,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
Br. JR, what if one hasn’t fulfilled the Christmas obligation but goes to Mass after 4pm on Saturday?
If the mass being celebrated is the Mass for the Sunday, then you have missed the Christmas mass.

This will probably be the case in most dioceses. The evening mass on Dec 25 will be the mass for Holy Family Sunday.

To fulfill the Christmas obligation, many parishes will have a Christmas mass on the evening of the 24th, early. Then the midnight mass. Then several masses on Christmas day in the morning. Check your parish buletin to find out the times for the Christmas masses or call. Their answering service will have the information recorded.

May Mary and the Holy Child bless you,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
Midnight Mass on Christmas Eve would straddle Friday and Saturday, but NOT Sunday. Therefore, you do NOT meet you obligation to go to Mass on Sunday, by attending a Midnight Mass on Friday night/Saturday morning.
 
Midnight Mass on Christmas Eve would straddle Friday and Saturday, but NOT Sunday. Therefore, you do NOT meet you obligation to go to Mass on Sunday, by attending a Midnight Mass on Friday night/Saturday morning.
I agree with the last few posts
 
Or they just are trying to avoid fatigue and exhaustion by overscheduling themselves.
You have to keep in mind two points.
  1. In a parish where there is only one priest or two, they can only celebrate two masses each. They need permission to celebrate a third. To do that two days in a row is exhausting, especially because of the Midnight Mass. It makes for a very short night.
  2. In a parish that is run by a religious community, they need to consolidate the masses. They need to be present for the LOTH for the two solemnities, which are back to back this year. They also need to be present for the community Christmas celebration. Religious communities are not allowed to cancel community celebrations unless there is no other choice. Normally, the community’s celebrations take priority over everything else. For example, in our house we have LOTH in common five times, there is the Christmas dinner and Christmas get together. Three houses come together for this. We can excuse one man who has to go on a mission of mercy. But you don’t cancel if you can consolidate.
May the Christ Child bless you!

Br. JR, OSF :christmastree1:
 
Midnight Mass on Christmas Eve would straddle Friday and Saturday, but NOT Sunday. Therefore, you do NOT meet you obligation to go to Mass on Sunday, by attending a Midnight Mass on Friday night/Saturday morning.
The Midnight Mass is the mass for Christmas. It does not fulfill the obligation for any other day except Christmas.

Next year, Christmas will fall on a Sunday. The Midnight Mass will begin Sat night, if it begins before midnight. It will cover Christmas and Sunday, because the two solemnities fall on the same day. In that case, Holy Family Sunday moves to the following Sunday, which will be Jan 2. That will push back the feast of the Epiphany to the following Sunday in those countries where it’s celebrated on Sunday instead of Jan 6.

God bless,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
I thought the OP was referring to Midnight Mass for Christmas, which technically takes place at 12 am Friday/Saturday, not Sunday.
We have to go to Mass on Either Friday at midnight or they are having a 10 AM Mass on Saturday. Christmas is a holy Day of Obligation.

Sunday is always a Holy Day of Obligation so we still go to mass on Sunday at my Parish
 
YIn a parish where there is only one priest or two, they can only celebrate two masses each. They need permission to celebrate a third. To do that two days in a row is exhausting, especially because of the Midnight Mass. It makes for a very short night.
Actually I believe Christmas is the one exception to that rule. Even in the “olden days” priests were freely allowed (yea, even expected) to celebrate the 3 Masses of Christmas (Dominus Dixit, Lux Fulgebit, and Puer Natus). AFIK, that is still the case.
 
They can’t handle 2 consecutive nights of one of the most attended Masses of the year?
I can’t handle large crowds so I attend morning Masses. 🙂
 
They can’t handle 2 consecutive nights of one of the most attended Masses of the year?
I can’t handle large crowds so I attend morning Masses. Besides there is no doubt as to which day they’re for.
Actually I believe Christmas is the one exception to that rule. Even in the “olden days” priests were freely allowed (yea, even expected) to celebrate the 3 Masses of Christmas (Dominus Dixit, Lux Fulgebit, and Puer Natus). AFIK, that is still the case.
Yes, this is still the case. And in the Chicago area you will find all three. It isn’t unusual to find some who go to more than one. 🙂
 
Actually I believe Christmas is the one exception to that rule. Even in the “olden days” priests were freely allowed (yea, even expected) to celebrate the 3 Masses of Christmas (Dominus Dixit, Lux Fulgebit, and Puer Natus). AFIK, that is still the case.
You’re right about the three masses allowed for Christmas. The problem this year is that Christmas falls on a Saturday. If you have anticipated mass on Friday, then Midnight mass, then several masses on Saturday, followed by several more masses on Sunday, it adds up and is exhausting.

Our local parish has three masses on Fri: 5:00, 7:00, 9:00; then Midnight Mass; then Christmas day at 9:30, 11:00 and 12:00. Then Sunday at 8:00, 9:30, 11:00, 12:30, and 6:00 pm. Then there is an additional mass at the nursing home. That’s 13 masses between Friday and Sunday. We only have three priests. You have to find priests to celebrate all of these masses. The Church only sits about 800 and the masses are all full.

Even if you had diocesan priests assigned to such a parish, it would be exhausting. By Monday morning, you’re a basket case, because you’re getting very little sleep.

If you have religious assigned to the parish, they have to find a way to get through it and also be present at all mandatory community functions, especially LOTH and the community celebration.

God bless,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
We have to go to Mass on Either Friday at midnight or they are having a 10 AM Mass on Saturday. Christmas is a holy Day of Obligation.

Sunday is always a Holy Day of Obligation so we still go to mass on Sunday at my Parish
Every Catholic is expected to attend both the mass for Christmas and the mass for Sunday. The obligation for January 1st has been waved this year.

That one is always a tricky one, because it’s not a holy day of oligation around the globe. I’m not sure how they decide where it is and where it’s not. I know that like other holy days of obligation, if they fall back to back with a Sunday, the obligation for the holy day is waved. But you cannot do that with Christmas, because it is a day of obligation for all 22 Catholic Churches, as well as the Orthodox Churches. There are no exceptions.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
The Midnight Mass is the mass for Christmas. It does not fulfill the obligation for any other day except Christmas.
That’s what he was saying. 🙂
Next year, Christmas will fall on a Sunday. The Midnight Mass will begin Sat night, if it begins before midnight. It will cover Christmas and Sunday, because the two solemnities fall on the same day. In that case, Holy Family Sunday moves to the following Sunday, which will be Jan 2. That will push back the feast of the Epiphany to the following Sunday in those countries where it’s celebrated on Sunday instead of Jan 6.

God bless,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
Actually, at least in the United States, the feast of the Holy Family will be moved in 2011 to the Friday after Christmas. The link I provided on the previous page from the USCCB says it’s because there is no Sunday between Christmas and Jan. 1.

And in 2012, it’s January 1 that will be a Sunday, not January 2.

God bless you too, Brother!
 
I can - see just below.

This is incorrect. Here’s a definitive answer:

usccb.org/liturgy/current/2011cal.pdf

It’s the USCCB’s official liturgical calendar for 2011 (it starts with Advent 2010).

On p. 12 (PDF numbering not internal numbering) you can clearly see that the solemnity of the Nativity of the Lord (Christmas), December 25, is marked as a “holy day of obligation.”

If one Mass could fulfill the obligation for both Christmas and Sunday, December, 26, it would specify this, as it does on the next page for the solemnity of Mary, the Mother of God, which is Saturday, January 1, and is specifically marked “not a holy day of obligation this year.”
That’s not a definitive answer at all. In fact, those two things have absolutely nothing to do with each other, and I’m at a loss as to how you might think that there’s any answer at all to be taken from this.

You write, “If one Mass could fulfill the obligation for both Christmas and Sunday, December, 26, it would specify this.” Says who? Did you ask the guy who wrote the notations on the U.S. calendar, and is his opinion canonically binding throughout the world or something?

Yes, Christmas and the next day, Sunday, are both days of obligation, but that is not at all inconsistent with the notion that the obligation for both could be satisfied by attendance at a single Mass. The obligation is to attend Mass on the day itself, or the evening before, and a Saturday evening Mass is on the day of Christmas, and on the evening of before Sunday.

But the case the next week it completely different: the Solemnity of Mary, Saturday, is simply not a day of obligation. Why shouldn’t the calendar say “not a day of obligation this year”? There is no obligation to attend Mass on that Saturday or the evening before, so the situation just has nothing to do with the Christmas situation.

No offense, but your argument makes absolutely no sense – and that’s even if you assume that the parenthetical reminders in the USCCB’s PDF calendar have some sort of canonical force.
 
That’s not a definitive answer at all. Those two things have absolutely nothing to do with each other, and I’m at a loss as to how you might think that there’s any answer at all to be taken from this.
I’ll be happy to explain to you what you’ve missed.
Why shouldn’t the calendar say “not a day of obligation this year”?
Because otherwise U.S. Catholics will think they’re obligated to go to Mass twice that weekend.

Why else?
No offense, but your argument makes absolutely no sense
Yes it does. Q.E.D.

/thread.

Merry Christmas.

See you at Mass, dude.
 
Every Catholic is expected to attend both the mass for Christmas and the mass for Sunday. The obligation for January 1st has been waved this year.

That one is always a tricky one, because it’s not a holy day of oligation around the globe. I’m not sure how they decide where it is and where it’s not. I know that like other holy days of obligation, if they fall back to back with a Sunday, the obligation for the holy day is waved. But you cannot do that with Christmas, because it is a day of obligation for all 22 Catholic Churches, as well as the Orthodox Churches. There are no exceptions.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
Not for us - - January 1st is the Circumcision a Holy Day of Obligation
 
Yes, Christmas and the next day, Sunday, are both days of obligation, but that is not at all inconsistent with the notion that the obligation for both could be satisfied by attendance at a single Mass.
Sure it’s inconsistent. AS I’ve said umpteen times, it is not a “2-fer” situation unless it has been announced as such. One pastor whom I know personally remarked about this in the parish bulletin. To forestall any question or argument on the matter, he canceled the normal Saturday 5:30pm Mass and moved it to Sunday at 5:30 pm. No muss, no fuss, no question of a 2-fer.
The obligation is to attend Mass on the day itself, or the evening before, and a Saturday evening Mass is on the day of Christmas, and on the evening of before Sunday.
Not exactly. The “obligation” is to to attend (or assist at) Mass for the Holy Day and for the Sunday. In pre-conciliar times, this question would never have even been raised. In any case, even in post-conciliar times, it’s not dependent on what amounts to a manipulation of the calendar.
Every Catholic is expected to attend both the mass for Christmas and the mass for Sunday.
 
Ah a Byzantine
January 1st is the Feast of the Circumcision in the Syriac Churches as well. In the Latin Church it had two names (Circumcision and the Octave of Christmas) until the name was changed to the alternate (“Octave of Christmas”) by Bl PP John XXIII. For the Latin Church, note that it was only the name that was: the Propers of the Mass remained the same. In the EF it still commonly (if not officially) called “The Circumcision”.
 
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