Does the RCC teach that non-Catholic Christians are anathema?

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Eph 2:8,9 will tell you how to be saved. In Christian love, Ralph.
One ought to use ALL of Scripture, not just parts of it, when determining what we must do to be saved.

Here’s what Scripture says about how we are saved:

By believing in Christ (Jn 3:16; Acts 16:31)?

By repentance (Acts 2:38; 2 Pet 3:9)?

By baptism (Jn 3:5; 1 Pet 3:21; Titus 3:5)?

By the work of the Spirit (Jn 3:5; 2 Cor 3:6)?

By declaring with our mouths (Lk 12:8; Rom 10:9)?

By coming to a knowledge of the truth (1 Tim 2:4; Heb 10:26)?

By works (Rom 2:6-7; James 2:24)?

By grace (Acts 15:11; Eph 2:8)?

By his blood (Rom 5:9; Heb 9:22)?

By his righteousness (Rom 5:17; 2 Pet 1:1)?

By his Cross (Eph 2:16; Col 2:14)?

*Can we cut any one of these out of the list and proclaim it alone as the means of salvation? Can we be saved without faith? Without God’s grace? Without repentance? Without baptism? Without the Spirit?

The Answer:

These are all involved and necessary; not one of them can be dismissed as a means of obtaining eternal life. Neither can one be emphasized to the exclusion of another. They are all involved in salvation and entry into the Church. The Catholic Church does not divide these various elements of salvation up; overemphasizing some while ignoring others; rather, she holds them all in their fullness." *(source: Steve Ray: Crossing the Tiber)
 
I am positive, based on the Word of God, that I am going to heaven, for I am a born again christian, that is, “born from above”. Only god can decide who is a christian or not. My thoughts, by the way, come from scripture, so if you quash my thoughts, you are quashing scripture. In Christian love, Ralph.
 
JL: How is a child saved by Eph2:8-9? Answer, by the unmeritted grace given in the sacrament of baptism, [TITUS 3:5 NOT by WORKS…we’ve done BUT by HIS MERCY he SAVED us **BY the WASHING of REGENERATION
and RENEWING of the HOLY SPIRIT 6 which he POURED OUT ON US richly THROUGH JESUS Christ our Savior 7 SO we might be JUSTIFIED BY his GRACE and become HEIRS…] Baptism not only remits, washes and cleanses, of sins but regenerates our soul, by POURING OUT on us of the Holy Spirit. That indwelling Holy Spirit, justifies us by his grace making us a child of God and heirs. In baptism the body is now dead to sin, whereas before the soul was dead, and slave to the flesh. Now the body (flesh) is subject to the regenerated, Holy Spirit indwelled, regenerated soul. Now we no longer live in old Adam but are reborn into the new Adam, by the Holy Spirit indwelling our soul.

[Eph2:1 And YOU HATH HE QUICKENED, WHO WERE DEAD in trespasses and sins; [The following added by me. We were dead in sins, God brought us to life (QUICKENED), with the supernatural conception of faith, which is the free gift (grace) of God. That grace gives an adult the freedom to CHOOSE, life or death. If we choose LIFE we REPENT, are BAPTIZED for REMISSION OF SINS, RECEIVE THE HOLY SPIRIT. Thereby being BORN AGAIN by water AND the Spirit through baptism. DELIVERED a child of God in family covenant relationship, a member of the HOUSEHOLD OF GOD the Church. If we reject this conception, of faith life, we abort it, we ramain dead in our sins.] 2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. 4 But GOD, who is RICH IN MERCY, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5 EVEN WHEN WE WERE DEAD IN SINS, HATH QUICKENED US TOGETHER WITH CHRIST, (by grace ye are saved) 6 AND hath RAISED US UP TOGETHER, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: [following added by me. Dead in our sins when we are buired and die with Christ in baptism and raised to new life with him thru baptism. End of my remarks] That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. 8 FOR BY GRACE ARE YE SAVED THROUGH FAITH; and that NOT OF YOURSELVES: IT IS THE GIFT OF GOD: 9 NOT OF WORKS, lest any man should boast. 10 For WE ARE HIS WORKMANSHIP, CREATED IN CHRIST JESUS [Following added by me. How do we become a new creature? Baptism. End my remarks] UNTO GOOD WORKS, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. 11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;] There is no question we are saved by God’s grace, that free gift of God. First faith is conceived by God’s grace, we accept by God’s grace, we repent by God’s grace, we are baptized FOR remission of sins by God’s grace, we receive the Holy Spirit by God’s grace and our good works after baptism we do by God’s grace, so NO MAN can boast.

[Acts2:37 Now WHEN THEY HEARD this, THEY WERE PRICKED IN THEIR HEART, [Following added by me. When they were PRICKED in their heart, that’s when the seed (sperm) of God’s word pricked the heart (egg) and faith life was conceived. End my remarks] AND SAID unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, WHAT SHALL WE DO? 38 Then PETER SAID unto them, REPENT, and BE BAPTIZED every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS, and ye shall RECEIVE the gift of THE HOLY GHOST. THE PROMISE IS UNTO YOU, AND TO YOUR CHILDREN, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call.] The water you are referring to in Titus 3:5, is not physical water as we know it, it is referring to “spiritual” water, look at Eph 5:26,27 , it is the word of God that does the washing. You should look at 1Peter 1:23., again it is referring to the “word”. If you look at Acts 2:37,38, basically Peter was preaching the "gospel"to them, and the word “pricked” their hearts, they understood and believed, so they repented of their sins and were baptized,(belief and repentance came first). Verse 47 says that “the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.” This is the “Body of Christ”. In Christian love, Ralph.
 
'zactly. We are not saved until we are dead.

That bears repeating, IMHO:
[SIGN1]
We are not saved until we are dead.[/SIGN1]

The question, “Are you saved?” is an American 20th century invention. 🤷
 
The water you are referring to in Titus 3:5, is not physical water as we know it, it is referring to “spiritual” water, look at Eph 5:26,27 , it is the word of God that does the washing.
JL: [Titus3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy HE SAVED US, by the WASHING OF REGENERATION, and RENEWING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT;] Baptism with WATER, as we know it, IS that WASHING OF REGENERATION.

[Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? Arise, and BE BAPTIZED, and WASH AWAY THY SINS, calling on the name of the Lord.] Paul was regenerated by RENEWING of the Holy Spirit, when he was BAPTIZED with WATER, as we know it. In Acts2:37-37, Peter said, be baptized for remission of sins, RECEIVE the gift of the Holy Spirit.

With the tradition of men you hold, Paul was already WASHED of his sins. Therefore Peter should have said, since you now believe you are automatically REPENTANT, WASHED and have RECEIVED the Holy Spirit, if you want you can be BAPTIZED to indicate publically you have accepted Christ as your Savior.

[Act8:34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man? 35 Then **Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. 36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, HERE IS WATER; what doth hinder me TO BE BAPTIZED?]

[Eph5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the **WASHING OF WATER BY THE WORD, 27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.]

Eph5:26 is clear, it is WATER, as we KNOW IT, and the WORD. It is actually the WORD CHRIST who washes us by WATER, as we know it, thru the action of the Holy Spirit in baptism. Eph5 is talking about the CHURCH, who concevies children by preaching the WORD. Those children are birthed thru the womb of the Church when BORN AGAIN thru WATER, as we know it, and the SPIRIT in baptism, Jn3:5. Just as was done in Acts2:38-37, Peter preaches the WORD, people are pricked (faith life is conceived) in their heart. Those people wanted to know what to do. Peter said REPENT, be BAPTIZED for REMISSION OF SIN, RECEIVE the HOLY SPIRIT. Those people were BORN AGAIN thru baptism. Baptism is a sacrament because Christ (God) is acting thur a visible SIGN (water) and the word, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
You should look at 1Peter 1:23., again it is referring to the “word”
JL: [1Pt1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.] I am born OF the corruptible SEED of my natual father, but I am not DELIVERED as his child until I break thur the water of my mother’s womb. I am supernatually BORN AGAIN by the incorruptible SEED of God’s Word, but I am not DELIVERED as HIS child until I break thru the water of my mother’s (Church’s) womb.
If you look at Acts 2:37,38, basically Peter was preaching the "gospel"to them, and the word “pricked” their hearts, they understood and believed, so they repented of their sins and were baptized,(belief and repentance came first).
JL: Did I ever say, belief and repentance didn’t come first? We are saved as Eph2:1-11 tells us by God’s grace, that free gift of God. First faith is conceived by God’s grace, we accept by God’s grace, we repent by God’s grace, we are baptized FOR remission of sins by God’s grace, we receive the Holy Spirit by God’s grace and our good works after baptism we do by God’s grace, so NO MAN can boast.
Verse 47 says that “the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.” This is the “Body of Christ”.
JL: I don’t know what your point is here, so I’m guessing. Yes it is the Lord who adds to the ONE VISIBLE Church, “body of Christ”, daily such as should be saved. How can one hear an invisible church? How can an invisible body made up of contentious people, with contradicting interpretations, of the same scripture, be a PILLAR and GROUND of TRUTH? Such a body would be unhealthy and of no real use. It could never act as ONE BODY, it can only act as thousands of bodies, as we clearly see. It would be chaos if one foot wanted to go to the right and the other foot wanted to go left, it would be working against itself. As our Lord tells us in [Lk11:17 But he, knowing their thoughts, said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falleth.]

[Mk 9:38 And JOHN answered him, SAYING, MASTER, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and HE FOLLOWETH NOT **US: and WE FORBAD HIM, because HE FOLLOWETH NOT US. 39 But JESUS SAID, FORBID HIM NOT: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. 40 For he that is not against US is on OUR PART.] The Holy Spirit works in those separated denominations outside the Apostles Fellowship. Uniting them to the ONE fellowship in a spiritual way.

By the way you have yet to SHOW ME a scripture telling us, baptism, only indicates one has accepted Christ as Savior. You can’t of course, because that’s going outside of scripture, using a made up tradition of men.
 
'zactly. We are not saved until we are dead.

That bears repeating, IMHO:
[SIGN1]
We are not saved until we are dead.[/SIGN1]

The question, “Are you saved?” is an American 20th century invention. 🤷
I believe if you look at Acts 2:47 as I mentioned in my last quote, people were getting saved, as quoted in that verse, I believe they were “alive” as well. Scripture also says that “today is the day of salvation”, we can absolutely know if we are saved. By the way, scripture says that we are already dead " in trespasses and sin", we are only made alive through the Blood of Christ. I will say it again, anything I say to you in my quotes are totally based on scripture. If I were back in the RCC, I certainly would have a lot of questions to ask the priest or whoever was teaching, and he would have to explain to me where he found that in scripture. I would only accept an answer from the Bible, not from what the RCC has been teaching for a good many years, tradition has no value for me, it is not solid, even the Bible itself says (in so many words) to search and to see that it is right, (I do not have scriptural verses right now to support this last statement), however I can find them. I do not know if RC are Christians, that is up to the Lord, but I do know that belonging to the RCC does not automatically make one a Christian, as well as belonging to any other denomination makes on a Christian. I would implore you to take a look at some of the teaching in the RCC and check it out with scripture, this should be done to help or enlighten your own beliefs. In Christian love, Ralph
 
JL: [Titus3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy HE SAVED US, by the WASHING OF REGENERATION, and RENEWING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT;] Baptism with WATER, as we know it, IS that WASHING OF REGENERATION.

[Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? Arise, and BE BAPTIZED, and WASH AWAY THY SINS, calling on the name of the Lord.] Paul was regenerated by RENEWING of the Holy Spirit, when he was BAPTIZED with WATER, as we know it. In Acts2:37-37, Peter said, be baptized for remission of sins, RECEIVE the gift of the Holy Spirit.

With the tradition of men you hold, Paul was already WASHED of his sins. Therefore Peter should have said, since you now believe you are automatically REPENTANT, WASHED and have RECEIVED the Holy Spirit, if you want you can be BAPTIZED to indicate publically you have accepted Christ as your Savior.

[Act8:34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man? 35 Then **Philip
opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. 36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, HERE IS WATER; what doth hinder me TO BE BAPTIZED?]

[Eph5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the **WASHING OF WATER BY THE WORD, 27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.]

Eph5:26 is clear, it is WATER, as we KNOW IT, and the WORD. It is actually the WORD CHRIST who washes us by WATER, as we know it, thru the action of the Holy Spirit in baptism. Eph5 is talking about the CHURCH, who concevies children by preaching the WORD. Those children are birthed thru the womb of the Church when BORN AGAIN thru WATER, as we know it, and the SPIRIT in baptism, Jn3:5. Just as was done in Acts2:38-37, Peter preaches the WORD, people are pricked (faith life is conceived) in their heart. Those people wanted to know what to do. Peter said REPENT, be BAPTIZED for REMISSION OF SIN, RECEIVE the HOLY SPIRIT. Those people were BORN AGAIN thru baptism. Baptism is a sacrament because Christ (God) is acting thur a visible SIGN (water) and the word, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

JL: [1Pt1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.] I am born OF the corruptible SEED of my natual father, but I am not DELIVERED as his child until I break thur the water of my mother’s womb. I am supernatually BORN AGAIN by the incorruptible SEED of God’s Word, but I am not DELIVERED as HIS child until I break thru the water of my mother’s (Church’s) womb.

JL: Did I ever say, belief and repentance didn’t come first? We are saved as Eph2:1-11 tells us by God’s grace, that free gift of God. First faith is conceived by God’s grace, we accept by God’s grace, we repent by God’s grace, we are baptized FOR remission of sins by God’s grace, we receive the Holy Spirit by God’s grace and our good works after baptism we do by God’s grace, so NO MAN can boast.

JL: I don’t know what your point is here, so I’m guessing. Yes it is the Lord who adds to the ONE VISIBLE Church, “body of Christ”, daily such as should be saved. How can one hear an invisible church? How can an invisible body made up of contentious people, with contradicting interpretations, of the same scripture, be a PILLAR and GROUND of TRUTH? Such a body would be unhealthy and of no real use. It could never act as ONE BODY, it can only act as thousands of bodies, as we clearly see. It would be chaos if one foot wanted to go to the right and the other foot wanted to go left, it would be working against itself. As our Lord tells us in [Lk11:17 But he, knowing their thoughts, said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falleth.]

[Mk 9:38 And JOHN answered him, SAYING, MASTER, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and HE FOLLOWETH NOT **US: and WE FORBAD HIM, because HE FOLLOWETH NOT US. 39 But JESUS SAID, FORBID HIM NOT: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. 40 For he that is not against US is on OUR PART.] The Holy Spirit works in those separated denominations outside the Apostles Fellowship. Uniting them to the ONE fellowship in a spiritual way.

By the way you have yet to SHOW ME a scripture telling us, baptism, only indicates one has accepted Christ as Savior. You can’t of course, because that’s going outside of scripture, using a made up tradition of men. Do you honestly believe that water can take away sin, I do not see that stated anywhere in scripture, can you show me where I can find it. Was the thief on the cross baptized, and what happened to him if he was not. In christian love, Ralph.
 
I believe if you look at Acts 2:47 as I mentioned in my last quote, people were getting saved, as quoted in that verse, I believe they were “alive” as well.
“Were *being *saved”. Not a single one of them was saved until they died. 🤷
Scripture also says that “today is the day of salvation”, we can absolutely know if we are saved.
Except that there are those who think they’re saved but aren’t.

That gives a peculiar dynamic to those who claim they are saved, doesn’t it?
 
Do you honestly believe that water can take away sin,
No Catholic believes water–that is, the molecular joining of hydrogen and oxygen–saves us, ralphy.

It is through the atoning blood of Christ that we are saved. Baptism is the means through which we receive the forgiveness of sins and become re-generated, re-creations in Christ.
I do not see that stated anywhere in scripture, can you show me where I can find it
Why does it have to be in Scripture?

Are altar calls in Scripture? What about getting married in a church? What about wedding rings? What about Wednesday night prayer meetings? And Bible studies?
Was the thief on the cross baptized, and what happened to him if he was not.
He became a saint in the Catholic Church: St. Dismas.

Also, please show us a verse where it says that this thief was not baptized. For it’s quite possible that he received baptism and that indelible mark placed on his soul was the catalyst for grace he needed to ask Christ for forgiveness. Remember, the Scriptures say there are many things Jesus did which are not recorded in Scripture.

(BTW, we are bound by the sacraments, but God is not. God can choose to save whomever he wishes.)
 
This baptism of desire, is it the desire of the child to be baptized, or the desire of the parents. Salvation cannot come by proxy. You and I both know that is very far fetched to say that the thief on the cross could have been baptized. In Christian love, Ralph.
 
“Were *being *saved”. Not a single one of them was saved until they died. 🤷

Except that there are those who think they’re saved but aren’t.

That gives a peculiar dynamic to those who claim they are saved, doesn’t it?
If you look at Eph 1:11-14, you will see the confirmation of our salvation. When we become born again Christians, we also become citizens of heaven, sealed by the Holy Spirit. I do know that I am going to heaven by Gods word. You are right, some people do claim salvation,but are not saved, the Bible says "by their fruits you shall know them’, I believe only God knows for sure who is saved. In Christian love, Ralph.
 
You and I both know that is very far fetched to say that the thief on the cross could have been baptized. In Christian love, Ralph.
Can you show us in Scripture where it says the Good Thief was not baptized?

Really, we just don’t know. You can’t say he wasn’t baptized. We can’t say he was. 🤷

I will say that there’s a verse in Scripture which says Jesus did many things which were not recorded in Scripture.
 
the Bible says "by their fruits you shall know them’,
No doubt. However, how one lives his life is not a testament to the truth of his religion. Or his salvation.

Mormons live quite moral lives–great family values. Quite charitable and honest.

Yet their theology is quite un-Christian.

Good fruits. Bad theology.
 
No doubt. However, how one lives his life is not a testament to the truth of his religion. Or his salvation.

Mormons live quite moral lives–great family values. Quite charitable and honest.

Yet their theology is quite un-Christian.

Good fruits. Bad theology.
I agree with what you say, some people can fool anybody, however this was a scriptural statement, only God can read the heart. In Christian love. Ralph
 
I agree with what you say, some people can fool anybody, however this was a scriptural statement, only God can read the heart. In Christian love. Ralph
Of course it was a Scriptural statement, ralphy.

But, as we all know, some people can lead righteous lives and not be saved. Good fruits. Bad theology. 🤷
 
No Catholic believes water–that is, the molecular joining of hydrogen and oxygen–saves us, ralphy.

It is through the atoning blood of Christ that we are saved. Baptism is the means through which we receive the forgiveness of sins and become re-generated, re-creations in Christ.

Why does it have to be in Scripture?

Are altar calls in Scripture? What about getting married in a church? What about wedding rings? What about Wednesday night prayer meetings? And Bible studies?

He became a saint in the Catholic Church: St. Dismas.

Also, please show us a verse where it says that this thief was not baptized. For it’s quite possible that he received baptism and that indelible mark placed on his soul was the catalyst for grace he needed to ask Christ for forgiveness. Remember, the Scriptures say there are many things Jesus did which are not recorded in Scripture.

(BTW, we are bound by the sacraments, but God is not. God can choose to save whomever he wishes.)
Where did the statement, “bound by the sacraments” come from, let me guess, the RCC? Do you mean this to be, that we cannot be saved unless we follow all the RCC sacraments. How did you come to know that the thief on the cross was a RC, this is the first time I heard this statement, can you explain. In Christian love. Ralph
 
Where did the statement, “bound by the sacraments” come from, let me guess, the RCC?
Well, since the CC instituted the Sacraments at the command of the Holy Spirit, yes, I suppose the statement came from the CC.

(Just like the statement, “By their fruits ye shall know them” came from the CC. :D)
Do you mean this to be, that we cannot be saved unless we follow all the RCC sacraments.
Ralphy, how could someone follow all the RCC sacraments? That’s just whacky. You should know, as a former Catholic even one so poorly catechized, that a woman can never receive priestly ordination.
How did you come to know that the thief on the cross was a RC, this is the first time I heard this statement, can you explain. In Christian love. Ralph
Anyone who’s canonized a saint is a Catholic, ralphy.
 
Well, since the CC instituted the Sacraments at the command of the Holy Spirit, yes, I suppose the statement came from the CC.

(Just like the statement, “By their fruits ye shall know them” came from the CC. :D)

Ralphy, how could someone follow all the RCC sacraments? That’s just whacky. You should know, as a former Catholic even one so poorly catechized, that a woman can never receive priestly ordination.

Anyone who’s canonized a saint is a Catholic, ralphy.
Can you show me in scripture where the Holy Spirit commanded the RCC to institute the “sacraments”, and just what are these “sacraments” suppose to do. Canonization of course is the teaching of the RCC, those who are called saints in the bible, are the ones who are saved, they did not require some group of people to decide if they were or were not saints. There is nothing in the new testament referring to priests (as in the old testament), it does refer to a “royal priesthood”, but these are saved people. Can you see what I am trying to say by using scripture that the RCC does not follow scripture, which makes it “another gospel”. Why don’t you take a few things taught in the RCC and match them up against the word of God, look for yourself and see what has been added, changed, or taken away. God will judge us by His word and nothing else, that’s why He left His word with us, it will not change. In christian love, Ralph.
 
Can you show me in scripture where the Holy Spirit commanded the RCC to institute the “sacraments”, and just what are these “sacraments” suppose to do. Canonization of course is the teaching of the RCC, those who are called saints in the bible, are the ones who are saved, they did not require some group of people to decide if they were or were not saints. There is nothing in the new testament referring to priests (as in the old testament), it does refer to a “royal priesthood”, but these are saved people. Can you see what I am trying to say by using scripture that the RCC does not follow scripture, which makes it “another gospel”. Why don’t you take a few things taught in the RCC and match them up against the word of God, look for yourself and see what has been added, changed, or taken away. God will judge us by His word and nothing else, that’s why He left His word with us, it will not change. In christian love, Ralph.
Let us begin our search for your question with an examination of the sacrament of baptism, the “laver of regeneration.”

Our Blessed Savior, after His Resurrection from the dead and just before his Ascension into heaven, told His Apostles to teach all nations, baptising them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:19). To what was He referring when He told them to baptise in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit? He was referring to a sacramental rite which He Himself had instituted.
 
Can you show me in scripture where the Holy Spirit commanded the RCC to institute the “sacraments”, and just what are these “sacraments” suppose to do. Canonization of course is the teaching of the RCC, those who are called saints in the bible, are the ones who are saved, they did not require some group of people to decide if they were or were not saints. There is nothing in the new testament referring to priests (as in the old testament), it does refer to a “royal priesthood”, but these are saved people. Can you see what I am trying to say by using scripture that the RCC does not follow scripture, which makes it “another gospel”. Why don’t you take a few things taught in the RCC and match them up against the word of God, look for yourself and see what has been added, changed, or taken away. God will judge us by His word and nothing else, that’s why He left His word with us, it will not change. In christian love, Ralph.
We know what you are trying to say ralphy.

What we are saying to you is that your fallible interpetations and misuse of Scriptures are useless.
 
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