Does time have a beginning?

[avflf]

The first recorded science-lesson as to the shape of the earth appeared in Isaias, yes, in the Old Testament, the Bible itself:

‘It is he that sitteth upon the globe of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as locusts: he that stretcheth out the heavens as nothing and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.’ — Ch. 40:22.

The following is from Barnes Notes on the OT:

The circle of the earth - Or rather, “above” (על ‛al) the circle of the earth. The word rendered ‘circle’ (חוּג chûg) denotes “a circle, sphere, or arch”; and is applied to the arch or vault of the heavens, in Pro_8:27; Job_22:14. The phrase ‘circle,’ or ‘circuit of the earth,’ here seems to be used in the same sense as the phrase orbis terrarum by the Latins; not as denoting a sphere, or not as implying that the earth was a globe, but that it was an extended plain surrounded by oceans and mighty waters. The globular form of the earth was then unknown; and the idea is, that God sat above this extended circuit, or circle; and that the vast earth was beneath his feet.

 

[James_S_Saint]

The following is from Barnes Notes on the OT:

The circle of the earth - Or rather, “above” (על ‛al) the circle of the earth. The word rendered ‘circle’ (חוּג chûg) denotes “a circle, sphere, or arch”; and is applied to the arch or vault of the heavens, in Pro_8:27; Job_22:14. The phrase ‘circle,’ or ‘circuit of the earth,’ here seems to be used in the same sense as the phrase orbis terrarum by the Latins; not as denoting a sphere, or not as implying that the earth was a globe, but that it was an extended plain surrounded by oceans and mighty waters. The globular form of the earth was then unknown; and the idea is, that God sat above this extended circuit, or circle; and that the vast earth was beneath his feet.

I wasn’t going to bring that up.

 

[avflf]

I wasn’t going to bring that up.

Seems that Pythagoras first postulated that the Earth must be a sphere way back in 570 BC

 

[sidbrown]

**In the case of MOST since 1741, their heresy is MATERIAL, not deliberate, not intentional, based on absolute ignorance, INCULPABLE IGNORANCE, belief that the cowboys actually proved the sun is fixed relative to the earth. There is no punishment due with material heresy.

But this in turn raises a crucial question and could be the subject of a thread of its own. INCULPABLE IGNORANCE can be breached. If one is told the truth, and one does not search to the best of one’s ability to seek out this truth, then pleading inculpable ignorance at the time of one’s judgement may be rejected. **

Does that mean then, for those of us who are now reading this thread and are aware of your arguments in favor of geocentrism, we would be unable to plead invincible ignorance since we have understood your line of reasoning? So as we adhere to the rejection of geocentrism, we must then be guilty of the sin of heresy in this matter?