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rachael_maria
Guest
The sisters did a beautiful job! They are very special. We should not be too quick to judge Oprah. She is searching for God too.
- Status
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Gardenman
Guest
I watched the show and was pleased the Sister’s were as candid as they were and gave a nice glimpse of what they are all about. 30 minutes is hardly enough time, however, to adequately give an informed presentation of their order and what they do. Hopefully there were young women watching that will give this vocation a second look.
Any good talk show host does their “homework” and some minimal research on their guests and what they are about to present. It’s clear that Ms. Winfrey did none of that and she should have. I think she made herself look foolish by her lack of basic knowledge about Sisters in general. Her questions were what one would expect from someone completely clueless about Catholic religious…as she obviously is. She could have easily done an hour or so’s internet search about Sister’s/Nuns and been at least minimally “informed”.
OF COURSE, the issue of sex and celibacy was brought up several times and thankfully, the Sister’s were quick to explain that living a chaste life IS possible and not freakish or abnormal in this day and age…and that the rewards for such are equally as valued.
I loved it when she mentioned that one convent, when asked for permission to be featured on the show asked, "What’s an Oprah Winfrey ??? " She seemed so amazed that there are actually people out there who have never even heard of her. THAT was brilliant !
Any good talk show host does their “homework” and some minimal research on their guests and what they are about to present. It’s clear that Ms. Winfrey did none of that and she should have. I think she made herself look foolish by her lack of basic knowledge about Sisters in general. Her questions were what one would expect from someone completely clueless about Catholic religious…as she obviously is. She could have easily done an hour or so’s internet search about Sister’s/Nuns and been at least minimally “informed”.
OF COURSE, the issue of sex and celibacy was brought up several times and thankfully, the Sister’s were quick to explain that living a chaste life IS possible and not freakish or abnormal in this day and age…and that the rewards for such are equally as valued.
I loved it when she mentioned that one convent, when asked for permission to be featured on the show asked, "What’s an Oprah Winfrey ??? " She seemed so amazed that there are actually people out there who have never even heard of her. THAT was brilliant !
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thebee
Guest
I think that since many of the viewers would be completely in the dark about convent life, Oprah had to take that standpoint to ask questions that would really draw on what her audience’s concerns may be, regardless of her personal knowledge on the topic.
I saw clips of the episode online, and I think it is wonderful that these women were given the opportunity to get the word out about this beautiful way of life.
Is there a way to watch the whole episode online?
I saw clips of the episode online, and I think it is wonderful that these women were given the opportunity to get the word out about this beautiful way of life.
Is there a way to watch the whole episode online?
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JohnnyReb
Guest
I enjoyed it very much and thought the sisters did a very good job. My niece was over and I used the opportunity to teach about Jesus, why she needs to read her Bible and go to church. She listened to me, and I am glad because her parents do not take her to church.
She had many questions about the sisters, and this was an opportunity for the sisters to expel myths and misconceptions people have about the religious life.
She had many questions about the sisters, and this was an opportunity for the sisters to expel myths and misconceptions people have about the religious life.
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Lepanto
Guest
What’s sad is that convents of good sisters like these used to be plentiful. Now, they are considered so unusual (freakish??), that they have become the subject of a freakshow like Oprah.
Nevertheless, well done, sisters. I hope that many more young women will be inspired to join you!
Nevertheless, well done, sisters. I hope that many more young women will be inspired to join you!
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turtle18
Guest
I thought it was a great job by the Dominican Sisters. Oprah even agreed with them several times–that society was too secular and sex was too important in modern society.
But the best part at the end was Lisa Ling’s testimony. She ACTUALLY gets it–basically she was talking about how FREE these women are. It was fantastic.
Since Oprah isn’t Catholics, I find her questions appropriate and I didn’t think she was disrespectful. I would be willing to bet she was asking questions that are on most Catholic minds!
But the best part at the end was Lisa Ling’s testimony. She ACTUALLY gets it–basically she was talking about how FREE these women are. It was fantastic.
Since Oprah isn’t Catholics, I find her questions appropriate and I didn’t think she was disrespectful. I would be willing to bet she was asking questions that are on most Catholic minds!
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goforgoal
Guest
Bravo! To our Dominican Sisters
and most importantly Bravo! to Our Lord & Our Lady.
sistersofmary.org/
God bless this person for making this blog and posting the videos
marysaggies.blogspot.com/2010/02/video-of-dominican-sisters-on-oprah.html
God bless,
goforgoal
and most importantly Bravo! to Our Lord & Our Lady.
sistersofmary.org/
God bless this person for making this blog and posting the videos
marysaggies.blogspot.com/2010/02/video-of-dominican-sisters-on-oprah.html
God bless,
goforgoal
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Majobe
Guest
Hi,
I am glad the Sisters did alright…I got really worried when I saw this topic.Oprah can be a very "interesting " character.God is great.
I am glad the Sisters did alright…I got really worried when I saw this topic.Oprah can be a very "interesting " character.God is great.
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BlackJack774
Guest
Here’s an artical by Sonja Corbitt:
INSPIRE: Called to Freedom: Dominican Nuns Image the Church on Oprah Winfrey
By Sonja Corbitt
2/10/2010
Catholic Online (www.catholic.org)
The sisters were everything beautiful and truthful that the Church has to offer: they were Christ to Oprah and to a world in need of its meaning in Him. BETHPAGE, TN (Catholic Online) - It was a luminous report, burgeoning with respect, ripe with joy. It was a shot of glory between baking salmon fillets, disciplining a wayward 3 year old, and folding a load of colors.
Having previously abandoned Oprah for her politics and new-ageism after years of following, I was a little anxious at the treatment our Dominican convent in Ann Arbor, MI might receive at the hands of reporter Lisa Ling and Harpo producers.
But when, straight out of the chute, the convent was described as “thriving,” the young women “flocking” to it as they never had before, and the laughing, bright, fresh faced sisters proceeded to preach a full Catholic sermon simply by sharing their home and way of life, my apprehension turned to laugh-out-loud delight.
A Golden Opportunity Seized Through the Virtue of Hospitality
A golden opportunity rejected by other convents in the nation, the Ann Arbor Dominicans’ hospitality challenged conventional worldly wisdom in a forum that can only be characterized as miraculous and that represented Catholic women in the most refreshing way I have ever seen on TV. Because the convent is home to 100 sisters whose average age is 26, the feature communicated the vitality of a relationship with a living Christ in the most captivating way.
What constitutes restriction and freedom, happiness and joy, contentment and emptiness? How can I find fulfillment when the fabulous job, the designer duds, the handsome, fascinating boyfriend, and all the comforts and ideologies of modern life are not enough? Where can I “give who I am”? Where does consumerism and “being skinny” cease to matter for women?
These were the questions raised by the sisters’ testimonies of being called by God to religious life. “Did you hear an audible voice?” Oprah asked.
“God wanted me here and made it very clear,” 22 year old sister Francis Mary answered.
Those unexposed to Catholicism or religious life who might have expected inanity or “girliness” from a community of young women, were handed what amounted to a Catholic treatise wrapped in pithy packaging by one of the professed sisters: “Everyone is on a journey in life. But we are on a more intimate journey.”
Another went on to add that in the religious life [people] are “free to pursue God fully,” while admitting that such a life is not “for every woman,” only those in whom “noise gnaws at the human soul” and pleads for silence there.
Those who imagined religious life requires rulers hidden in the recesses of religious habits or faces clouded by somber melancholy were shocked at the brightness, the transparency and the unrehearsed sincerity of the nuns’ answers and a look at their daily routine and experiences.
What About Sex?
When asked about sex, and leaving it behind along with physical motherhood, one sister pointed out how the pervasive sexualization of our society “undermines the dignity of the human person,” while another took up the same thread by expressing that religious men and women “use the same desires [that “regular” people experience] for a greater calling.”
One postulant expressed her recent willingness to abandon sex and physical motherhood for the greater intimacy of spiritual motherhood, in part, because she did not “want to be an object.” Speaking of most nuns and their “spiritual marriage” to Jesus, Sr. Francis Mary admitted, to raucous laughter, that He is a “hard husband, because if something goes wrong in the relationship, I know it’s me.”
By far though, one of the best accounts was given by one of the sisters whose very loving, pre-convent relationship ended in separation, only to ultimately be rediscovered again later in God; she had entered the convent, and he the priesthood! What a breathtaking image of the Christian life, and it was on the world stage.
Spiritual Motherhood and Freedom
The sisters were everything beautiful and truthful that the Church has to offer: they were Christ to Oprah and to a world in need of its meaning in Him. I felt as though, finally!, someone was speaking with my voice and my faith, and not by rejecting men, sex, society, or even necessarily material things, but by their acceptance of something inexplicably more holy and beautiful. It was real feminism at its best, and true spiritual motherhood, for who knows how many vocations will be born from the womb of this broadcast?
Lisa Ling’s investigative report for Oprah inspired me to deeper love: to a greater, more total, more radical obedience, a brotherly love on which I place no limits, shocking generosity and simplicity, and an attractive, positive modesty and its accompanying spiritual allure.
In a world where religious brothers and sisters probably hold the seams of a morally teetering earth together with their invisible, fervent, ceaseless prayers for us all, the broadcast revealed the Church in all her glory through our religious brothers and sisters. Surely those sisters inspired Lisa Ling to investigate true freedom, for the last words about them before the end of the show were hers, “Their lives are much more liberating.”
Sonja Corbitt is a Catholic Scripture teacher, study author and speaker. She is a contributing writer for Catholic Online. Visit her at www.pursuingthesummit.com and www.pursuingthesummit.blogspot.com.
I didn’t see it! But I am so happy this was showen. I really hope this brings more to Holy Mother Church!
God Bless!
P.S. Does anyone know if it will be aired?
INSPIRE: Called to Freedom: Dominican Nuns Image the Church on Oprah Winfrey
By Sonja Corbitt
2/10/2010
Catholic Online (www.catholic.org)
The sisters were everything beautiful and truthful that the Church has to offer: they were Christ to Oprah and to a world in need of its meaning in Him. BETHPAGE, TN (Catholic Online) - It was a luminous report, burgeoning with respect, ripe with joy. It was a shot of glory between baking salmon fillets, disciplining a wayward 3 year old, and folding a load of colors.
Having previously abandoned Oprah for her politics and new-ageism after years of following, I was a little anxious at the treatment our Dominican convent in Ann Arbor, MI might receive at the hands of reporter Lisa Ling and Harpo producers.
But when, straight out of the chute, the convent was described as “thriving,” the young women “flocking” to it as they never had before, and the laughing, bright, fresh faced sisters proceeded to preach a full Catholic sermon simply by sharing their home and way of life, my apprehension turned to laugh-out-loud delight.
A Golden Opportunity Seized Through the Virtue of Hospitality
A golden opportunity rejected by other convents in the nation, the Ann Arbor Dominicans’ hospitality challenged conventional worldly wisdom in a forum that can only be characterized as miraculous and that represented Catholic women in the most refreshing way I have ever seen on TV. Because the convent is home to 100 sisters whose average age is 26, the feature communicated the vitality of a relationship with a living Christ in the most captivating way.
What constitutes restriction and freedom, happiness and joy, contentment and emptiness? How can I find fulfillment when the fabulous job, the designer duds, the handsome, fascinating boyfriend, and all the comforts and ideologies of modern life are not enough? Where can I “give who I am”? Where does consumerism and “being skinny” cease to matter for women?
These were the questions raised by the sisters’ testimonies of being called by God to religious life. “Did you hear an audible voice?” Oprah asked.
“God wanted me here and made it very clear,” 22 year old sister Francis Mary answered.
Those unexposed to Catholicism or religious life who might have expected inanity or “girliness” from a community of young women, were handed what amounted to a Catholic treatise wrapped in pithy packaging by one of the professed sisters: “Everyone is on a journey in life. But we are on a more intimate journey.”
Another went on to add that in the religious life [people] are “free to pursue God fully,” while admitting that such a life is not “for every woman,” only those in whom “noise gnaws at the human soul” and pleads for silence there.
Those who imagined religious life requires rulers hidden in the recesses of religious habits or faces clouded by somber melancholy were shocked at the brightness, the transparency and the unrehearsed sincerity of the nuns’ answers and a look at their daily routine and experiences.
What About Sex?
When asked about sex, and leaving it behind along with physical motherhood, one sister pointed out how the pervasive sexualization of our society “undermines the dignity of the human person,” while another took up the same thread by expressing that religious men and women “use the same desires [that “regular” people experience] for a greater calling.”
One postulant expressed her recent willingness to abandon sex and physical motherhood for the greater intimacy of spiritual motherhood, in part, because she did not “want to be an object.” Speaking of most nuns and their “spiritual marriage” to Jesus, Sr. Francis Mary admitted, to raucous laughter, that He is a “hard husband, because if something goes wrong in the relationship, I know it’s me.”
By far though, one of the best accounts was given by one of the sisters whose very loving, pre-convent relationship ended in separation, only to ultimately be rediscovered again later in God; she had entered the convent, and he the priesthood! What a breathtaking image of the Christian life, and it was on the world stage.
Spiritual Motherhood and Freedom
The sisters were everything beautiful and truthful that the Church has to offer: they were Christ to Oprah and to a world in need of its meaning in Him. I felt as though, finally!, someone was speaking with my voice and my faith, and not by rejecting men, sex, society, or even necessarily material things, but by their acceptance of something inexplicably more holy and beautiful. It was real feminism at its best, and true spiritual motherhood, for who knows how many vocations will be born from the womb of this broadcast?
Lisa Ling’s investigative report for Oprah inspired me to deeper love: to a greater, more total, more radical obedience, a brotherly love on which I place no limits, shocking generosity and simplicity, and an attractive, positive modesty and its accompanying spiritual allure.
In a world where religious brothers and sisters probably hold the seams of a morally teetering earth together with their invisible, fervent, ceaseless prayers for us all, the broadcast revealed the Church in all her glory through our religious brothers and sisters. Surely those sisters inspired Lisa Ling to investigate true freedom, for the last words about them before the end of the show were hers, “Their lives are much more liberating.”
Sonja Corbitt is a Catholic Scripture teacher, study author and speaker. She is a contributing writer for Catholic Online. Visit her at www.pursuingthesummit.com and www.pursuingthesummit.blogspot.com.
I didn’t see it! But I am so happy this was showen. I really hope this brings more to Holy Mother Church!
God Bless!
P.S. Does anyone know if it will be aired?
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JohnMPhilomena
Guest
What a great article! Sonja Corbitt really nailed it. I’ve been to this convent and the Sisters ARE the face of the Catholic Church. They are wonderful and now they are all my daughters.
Giving our daughter to them was one of the hardest things we’ve ever had to do. My wife cried for 2 weeks. After 3 years we still miss her incredibly. She is only allowed to write home once a month (since this is the year she takes her first vows). Over New Years day weekend, we spent 20 hours and drove 1100 miles through white-out snow conditions so we could have a 6 hour visit with my daughter and the rest of the sisters. It was well worth it. This summer (after her first vows) she will be able to come home for a week visit. We can’t wait.
The Oprah show aired on Tuesday this past week and I haven’t seen it yet because I’m out of town. My wife recorded it though and said our daughter was only on for a split second, but I can’t wait to see it.
Peace,
John Marie Philomena
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GilChrist77
Guest
Honestly when I heard about this from Sister Joseph I was a bit worried about it and was praying quite a bit for them that the Holy Spirit would guid them. I’m actually very pleased with how it came out. They really were a great light and they were very open and honest with Oprah and I feel that it was a very positive thing for not only them but for religious life as a whole. There are so many misconceptions out there about religious life and I think the Sisters did a great job with dispelling some of them. I loved how Sister Mary Judith used chocolate in talking about the vow of chastity. Also I loved when she said “He’s not an easy man to be married to because if something goes wrong in the relationship I know it’s me!” That really made me laugh. Also when Sister Amata (I believe) said that one of the most commen misconceptions is that “we all have a ruler in our pockets.”
Over all I think it was a wonderful thing and they did a great job. God bless them!!
JMJ+
~Betsy
Totus tuus Maria!
Over all I think it was a wonderful thing and they did a great job. God bless them!!
JMJ+
~Betsy
Totus tuus Maria!
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Rising_Suns
Guest
Dear BlackJack,
Thank you for posting the article by Sonja Corbitt. I could not agree more with it.
I am certain that Satan is furious about this video.
.
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JReducation
Guest
Call me naive, but I never felt any apprehension about the sisters being on Oprah. My feeling was that the sistes selected to be on the program would be those who could hold their own before a large TV audience and grilling questions. No religious superior is going to place their more fragile sisters in that situation.
I did not see the program. We do not watch much TV. But from what I heard from the laity around here, it was delightful. I’m glad that the sisters were able to present religious life in a very human and positive light.
Fraternally,
Br. JR, OSF
I did not see the program. We do not watch much TV. But from what I heard from the laity around here, it was delightful. I’m glad that the sisters were able to present religious life in a very human and positive light.
Fraternally,
Br. JR, OSF
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JohnMPhilomena
Guest
From what I’ve seen, they don’t have any fragile sisters. (and I have been there). But I understand what you are saying. I don’t think you can go into the walls of that convent without being changed in some way.Call me naive, but I never felt any apprehension about the sisters being on Oprah. My feeling was that the sistes selected to be on the program would be those who could hold their own before a large TV audience and grilling questions. No religious superior is going to place their more fragile sisters in that situation.
I did not see the program. We do not watch much TV. But from what I heard from the laity around here, it was delightful. I’m glad that the sisters were able to present religious life in a very human and positive light.
Fraternally,
Br. JR, OSF
Some of the clips are on youtube now if you haven’t seen it.
Part 1 youtube.com/watch?v=CSa40…eature=related
Part 2 youtube.com/watch?v=25sp-…eature=related
Part 3 youtube.com/watch?v=KL0SQ…eature=related
Part 4 youtube.com/watch?v=Xrdky…eature=related
Peace,
John Marie Philomena
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Jennifer_G
Guest
Which Carmel is that in the 2nd video (around 42 seconds)? (Ada Parnell? Looks like their chapel from Google Maps - has 3 windows)
I cracked up laughing when Oprah said something like, “We contacted many convents. All [but one] denied our request.”.
I cracked up laughing when Oprah said something like, “We contacted many convents. All [but one] denied our request.”.
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John_Lazarus
Guest
I would, because I certainly didn’t invite her into my house…
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goforgoal
Guest
You can also watch it here if you like. God bless this person for the blog and video
marysaggies.blogspot.com/2010/02/video-of-dominican-sisters-on-oprah.html
I know that Lisa Ling spent the night at the convent. Hmm, I wonder how Oprah would have “handled” it?
Sr. Mary Judith, O.P., Lac La Ronge, Saskatchewan, CA and Sr. Miriam, O.P, , Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada. Are from the same Province as me.
marysaggies.blogspot.com/2010/02/video-of-dominican-sisters-on-oprah.html
I know that Lisa Ling spent the night at the convent. Hmm, I wonder how Oprah would have “handled” it?
Sr. Mary Judith, O.P., Lac La Ronge, Saskatchewan, CA and Sr. Miriam, O.P, , Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada. Are from the same Province as me.
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marytk
Guest
Our local (I live in the same town as the sisters) news did a story on the sisters last Tuesday (News comes right after Oprah). Besides showing their schools the reporter said that the sisters said that they invited Oprah to come and she said yes. (we will see if it happens)You can also watch it here if you like. God bless this person for the blog and video
marysaggies.blogspot.com/2010/02/video-of-dominican-sisters-on-oprah.html
I know that Lisa Ling spent the night at the convent. Hmm, I wonder how Oprah would have “handled” it?
Sr. Mary Judith, O.P., Lac La Ronge, Saskatchewan, CA and Sr. Miriam, O.P, , Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada. Are from the same Province as me.
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ambevil
Guest
Gardenman (and others who expressed disagreement with this),I disagree with this completely. This is just as bad as Notre Dame having Obama speak at their graduation.
Oprah Winfrey is NOT a Christian and I think the Sisters are making a huge mistake going on her show. She will only give lip service to the Sisters and what they have to say.
Bad idea all around.
Oprah is just full of herself and as radically liberal as they come…not to mention as phony as a three dollar bill.
Why is this such a horrible idea? There is a definite difference between President Obama speaking at Notre Dame and the Dominican Sisters being aired on Oprah: in the first case, you have a staunch liberal spreading his message (which is definitely NOT one of life or of the truth) to a body of young, intelligent Catholic believers just graduating and preparing for the rest of their lives. And in the second case, you have a group of women who DO belong to the culture of life and the Holy Roman Catholic Church, who speak the language of love, life, and the truth of the Gospel in the very living out of their lives, being given the opportunity to spread this message to an audience that is most often bombarded by the culture of death and staunch liberalism.
Just last night my brothers and I re-watched the first part of Jesus of Nazareth and one particular scene really hit me (its actually kind of ironic that I run across this very thread just the day after). It was the scene where Jesus went to eat with Matthew the tax collector and the rest of his “sinful brood”, and it depicts the difficulty Peter has with Jesus’ willingness to dine with sinners and the effect that this same loving willingness of Christ’s had had on those sinners.
I feel this situation with the Sisters is similar to the one in the film. The Dominican Sisters of Mary Mother of the Eucharist went on Oprah not because they were succumbed to the lures of the culture, or to get their 15 minutes of fame. They went there to “dine with sinners” in a sense, to be a light to those who do not live in or even understand the Light of Christ, to be the somewhat strange yet altogether necessary taste of the Salt of the Earth, and to spread the message of the Culture of Life to an audience that so readily settles for the lies of the Culture of Death. What better prism for the Light of Christ to spread itself than through (as horrible as it can be) the media which was open and willing to air their message nationally (if not globally! Gosh, that’d be great if it went around the world…)
I saw this very segment on Oprah (I made FOR ABSOLUTE SURE that my DVR tape it on the exact episode I wanted) and I thought it was wonderful. Of course, there were times where their portrayal of the sisters made them seem a bit anti-cultural, but I thought it was as bias-less as it could be (well, for Oprah at least). It was truly exciting to see these beautiful and holy Brides of Christ speak about their lives of total abandonment to God and the true happiness and peace that they had found in doing such a seemingly “odd” and “anti-cultural” kind of thing. It was a great Light to an audience who seldom ever see the Light at all. Praise God for these beautiful and holy women! I love you and am praying for you, Sisters!
God bless,
Angela
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JReducation
Guest
When speaking about the activities of religious it is important that the laity pay special attention to the founder of the religious family, his vision and mission for his family.
The Dominican Sisters of Mary belong to the Augustinian-Dominican tradition. St. Dominic founded an order of preachers and gave them the Rule of St. Augustine with his commentaries. In those commentaries he commands his brothers and sisters to go out to preach to the heretics. They were not to preach to Catholics, because that field was covered by the Franciscans. While the Franciscans converted the Catholics back to the Gospel, the Dominicans were to convert the heretics back to the Gospel.
The mission of the Dominican Sisters today is the same as it was in 1209, to preach to and convert the heretics. Heretics don’t usually congregate in convents. They’re out there in the secular world. The Dominican Sisters are being faithful to the wishes and vision of their founder.
We, who are not Dominicans, must respect this and support them in this. This is what they were called to do, not to hide in the safety of Catholic circles. The early Dominicans were famous for entering places of prostitutions, child sexual abuse, schools of heretics, bars, and other unsavory places. That’s the mission of a Friar or Sister Preacher. It’s in the rule that St. Augustine wrote and in the commentaries that St. Dominic wrote.
Dominic conceived for the first time the idea of founding an Order that would combat heresy and spread the light of the Gospel by preaching to the ends of the then known world.
3op.org/stdominic.php
Fraternally,
Br. JR, OSF
The Dominican Sisters of Mary belong to the Augustinian-Dominican tradition. St. Dominic founded an order of preachers and gave them the Rule of St. Augustine with his commentaries. In those commentaries he commands his brothers and sisters to go out to preach to the heretics. They were not to preach to Catholics, because that field was covered by the Franciscans. While the Franciscans converted the Catholics back to the Gospel, the Dominicans were to convert the heretics back to the Gospel.
The mission of the Dominican Sisters today is the same as it was in 1209, to preach to and convert the heretics. Heretics don’t usually congregate in convents. They’re out there in the secular world. The Dominican Sisters are being faithful to the wishes and vision of their founder.
We, who are not Dominicans, must respect this and support them in this. This is what they were called to do, not to hide in the safety of Catholic circles. The early Dominicans were famous for entering places of prostitutions, child sexual abuse, schools of heretics, bars, and other unsavory places. That’s the mission of a Friar or Sister Preacher. It’s in the rule that St. Augustine wrote and in the commentaries that St. Dominic wrote.
Dominic conceived for the first time the idea of founding an Order that would combat heresy and spread the light of the Gospel by preaching to the ends of the then known world.
3op.org/stdominic.php
Fraternally,
Br. JR, OSF
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