Don Lemon: Even Most Skeptical Black, ‘Gay Folks’ Wanted to Believe Smollett

[Cathoholic]

I was just over at Breitbart and thought this was an interesting story (so I am posting it).

It suggests (to me anyway) that there are some people who WANT bad race relations.

Why? Who knows all the reasons?

Some of it doubtedly fuels the race-baiting industrial complex. And they can “fund raise” off of it. The ends justify the means and all of that.

Others think they can get cheap political points. They don’t seem to mind hurting the country.

As for them too, the ends justify the means. (Even when those “means” are self-destructive. Look at how ridiculous Pelosi, Kamala Harris, and Booker look after their reflex comments.)

Others are probably upset at the racial harmony that we DO have in our great country. Since some of them are racists, and they know deep down that is evil, they don’t like that part of themselves.

So they seek to do damage to the racial harmony of other people. It is a form of envy. These are the most likely to PROJECT their own racism upon others in my opinion.

There are likely hosts of other reasons too.

I think it is absolutely bizarre that there are people that WANT things like this “attack on Jussie Smollett” to be true. But again. That is just my opinion.

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Don Lemon: Even Most Skeptical Black, ‘Gay Folks’ Wanted to Believe Smollett​

Tony Lee 22 Feb 2018 Breitbart News

CNN anchor Don Lemon on Wednesday evening admitted that “certain groups of people” like “black folks” and “gay folks” wanted to believe Empire actor Jussie Smollett’s story about being attacked by racist and homophobic supporters of President Donald Trump even though they were highly skeptical of his claims. . . .​

. . . Though Lemon said “a lot of people, including people in the community, people of color and gay people, had questions about this from the very beginning” because “some of the details didn’t seem to make sense,” mainstream media networks like CNN and hosts like Lemon never gave a voice to these “people of color” and “gay people” who supposedly had serious doubts about Smollett’s story from the get go.

Instead, because Smollett claimed that his attackers yelled that Chicago was “MAGA country,” the media amplified the voices of Democrats running for president and activist organizations that rushed to condemn Trump and . . .

. . . Chicago Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson on Thursday said he was left shaking his head and asking why a black man would “use the symbol of a noose to make false accusations.” . . .

Don Lemon: Even Most Skeptical Black, 'Gay Folks' Wanted to Believe Smollett

CNN anchor Don Lemon on Wednesday evening admitted that “certain groups of people” like “black folks” and “gay folks” wanted to believe Empire actor Jussie Smollett’s story about being attacked by racist supporters of President Donald Trump even though they were highly skeptical of his claims. |...

www.breitbart.com

Even though some . . .

. . . had questions about this from the very beginning” because “some of the details didn’t seem to make sense,” mainstream media networks like CNN and hosts like Lemon never gave a voice to these “people of color” and “gay people” who supposedly had serious doubts about Smollett’s story from the get go.

 

[Dr_Meinheimer]

Promoting a culture of victimhood will do that to people. Isolate people into distinct groups, promote the notion that the group is being victimized, and voila, you find yourself believing things that perpetuate your victim status.

 

[stevegravy]

It is called a blood libel. There are still people who believe, because they want to, the “Protocols of Zion”

 

[Cathoholic]

We just saw the same motif with the innocent Covington Catholic boy being used by leftists to demonize other innocent people too.

You would think on the heels of the
so-called “news” from Buzzfeed about President Trump,
and how awful these people made themselves look with
the Covington Catholic debacle,
that they would have waded in a little more carefully with the Jussie story.

But evidently not.

What does all this fake news amplification earn you?

Well if you are liberal media
it gets you among
the most trusted news catagory
with outfits like “NewsGuard”
(who don’t seem to care about these principles. At least in my opinion.).

 

[Cathoholic]

Report: Jussie Smollett Tells ‘Empire’ Cast ‘I Swear to God, I Did Not Do This’​

Joshua Caplan 22 Feb 2019 Breitbart News

Actor-singer Jussie Smollett pled with his Empire cast mates Thursday evening to believe that he did not stage his own racist and homophobic attack last month, according to a report. . . .​

. . . Hours prior, Smollett was released from police custody upon posting bond at $100,000 at a Chicago courthouse. Speaking before hearing attendees, Cook County Judge John Fitzgerald Lyke Jr. characterized the allegations against Smollett as “violent, despicable,” and expressed disgust for the actor’s use of a noose in the allegedly staged attack. Smollet attorney Jack Prior told the judge that his client affirms the charges against him are “outrageous” and denied all allegations. . . .

Report: Jussie Smollett Tells 'Empire' Cast 'I Swear to God, I Did Not Do This'

Jussie Smollett begged his 'Empire' cast mates to believe that he did not stage his own racist attack last month, according to a report.

www.breitbart.com

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These people apparently are having no part of it . . . .

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Nolte: 'Empire' Cast Feel Betrayed, Want Jussie Smollett Fired

Believing he betrayed them and tainted their show, several cast members now want Jussie Smollett fired from Empire.

www.breitbart.com

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Jussie Smollett Cut from Last Two Episodes of 'Empire'

'Empire' producers announced Jussie Smollett will be cut from the final two episodes of the season to avoid "further disruption on set."

www.breitbart.com

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'Empire' Star Gabby Sidibe Deletes Tweet in Support of Jussie Smollett

Actress Gabby Sidibe has deleted a tweet backing her disgraced "Empire" co-star, Jussie Smollett, as further details emerge over how and why he allegedly orchestrated a fake hate crime incident against himself.

www.breitbart.com

 

[gracepoole]

It suggests (to me anyway) that there are some people who WANT bad race relations.

Or it suggests that people don’t want to believe that someone would fabricate a story like this. That seems to be the most logical, non-conspiracy-oriented answer.

 

[JonNC]

Cathoholic:

It suggests (to me anyway) that there are some people who WANT bad race relations.

Or it suggests that people don’t want to believe that someone would fabricate a story like this. That seems to be the most logical, non-conspiracy-oriented answer.

I think the reason is some people have been listening to the poison Lemon and his ilk spew. They actually believe that Trump supporters are all about this kind of behavior, because that’s what they’ve been told.

That said, it is just as disturbing that people are presuming Smollet’s guilt. He’s been charged, not convicted.

 

[Cathoholic]

gracepoole . . .

Or it suggests that people don’t want to believe that someone would fabricate a story like this. That seems to be the most logical, non-conspiracy-oriented answer.

Except you are inverting the episode.

The “conspiracy” was propagated by Smollett and magnified by leftists in the media.

Not by people expressing their opinions on forums about “why” people like Jussie just keep engaging in these types of self-destructive behaviors.

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gracepoole . . .

Or it suggests that people don’t want to believe that someone would fabricate a story like this.

And I might actually believe that regarding the media gracepoole. . . . if the mainstream media applied this equally.

 

[Cathoholic]

Ingraham: Rage vs. results and the great Democrat freak-out​

Feb. 22, 2019 - 7:47 - Ten years ago it would have been unthinkable that major political and media figures would bend over backwards to excuse criminal behavior because they agreed with the perpetrators’ political motivation.

Ingraham: Rage vs. results and the great Democrat freak-out | Fox News Video

Ten years ago it would have been unthinkable that major political and media figures would bend over backwards to excuse criminal behavior.

video.foxnews.com

 

[Theo520]

Or it suggests that people don’t want to believe that someone would fabricate a story like this. That seems to be the most logical, non-conspiracy-oriented answer.

You gotta pick your side if you won’t wait for evidence.

I wanted to believe people wouldn’t commit such a hate crime in downtown Chicago, a far worse thing than someone lying to further their career.

 

[dvdjs]

I wanted to believe people wouldn’t commit such a hate crime in downtown Chicago, a far worse thing than someone lying to further their career.

Far worse, but, sadly, far more frequent.

 

[Theo520]

Far worse, but, sadly, far more frequent.

Really, got a source for recent hate crimes in downtown Chicago?
I think you got your probabilities reversed.

 

[dvdjs]

Really, got a source for recent hate crimes in downtown Chicago?

I may not have understood the comparison.
Are you holding to context in discussing hate crime - in fact recent hate crimes in “downtown” Chicago, but jumping beyond the that locale and the making a false hate crime report to advacne one’s career, into any lie told anytime, anywhere to advance one’s career?

If we stay on point, here is 2017 data on hate crimes for agencies in IL.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2017/tables/table-13-state-cuts/illinois.xls

Unfortunately, “downtown” is not separated. Perhaps you can supply numbers on career-advancing false hate-crime reports. It will be interesting to see if there were more than 41 such cases in 2017.

 

[Rhubarb]

I don’t see anything about wanting bad race relations.

I think it is natural to want to believe in people you identify with, and feel they are trustworthy. And wanting to hold out hope that they aren’t liar-faces.

 

[Theo520]

I’m only asking you to support your clear assertion.

 

[dvdjs]

I’m only asking you to support your clear assertion.

Here is a report on hate crime hoaxes.

https://www.csusb.edu/sites/default/files/2018%20Hate%20Final%20Report%205-14.pdf

Unfortunately, it does not specify the motives (such as career advancement) behind the hoax. Taking them all, however, it appears that the number of such hoaxes - over the entire US - in 2016-May 2018 was smaller than the number of hate crimes reported above in Chicago.

Conversely, our Center has found a very small number of approximately two dozen confirmed or suspected instances of false reporting “hoaxes”in the last couple of years amidst thousands of police of hate crimes reported to police.

Restricting to Chicago, IL, the number was zero in 2017 and 1 in 2016.

 

[Theo520]

Violent Racism Is Very Rare in the Modern USA

Hate crime hoaxes, like Jussie Smollett's alleged attack, are more common than you think

In writing a book about hate crime hoaxes, I found more than 400. Such frauds damage good race relations.

www.usatoday.com

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hate crime hoaxers are “calling attention to a problem” that is a very small part of total crimes. There is very little brutally violent racism in the modern USA. There are less than 7,000 real hate crimes reported in a typical year. Inter-racial crime is quite rare; [84% of white murder victims and 93% of Black murder victims] are killed by criminals of their own race, and the person most likely to kill you is your ex-wife or husband. When violent inter-racial crimes do occur, whites are at least as likely to be the targets as are minorities. Simply put, Klansmen armed with nooses are not lurking on Chicago street corners.

In this context, what hate hoaxers actually do is worsen generally good race relations, and distract attention from real problems. As Chicago’s disgusted top cop, Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson, pointed out yesterday, skilled police officers spent four weeks tracking down Smollett’s imaginary attackers — in a city that has seen 28 murders as of Feb. 9th, [according to The Chicago Tribune]. We all, media and citizens alike, would be better served to focus on real issues like gun violence and the opiate epidemic than on fairy tales like Jussie’s.

 

[Cathoholic]

dvdjs . . .

Here is a report on hate crime hoaxes.

That was on “Hate Crimes” but it merely alluded to “reports” not “crimes.”

At least not “crimes” in the sense of “arrests” and/or “convictions”.

What about arrests? I did a search in the document for arrests and it did not come up.

The same with “convictions”.

Tucker talks about that phenomenon here . . .

Your “study” might merely show there are just more Jussie Smolletts out there now then ever before. (It might not but we need more data for you to make any claims.)

Your study might have very little to do with actual hate crimes and a lot about hate crime hoaxes. You just cannot draw conclusions from it.

 

[dvdjs]

what hate hoaxers actually do is worsen generally good race relations, and distract attention from real problems

I agree with the problem of diversion of resources, but since the number of hoaxes is very small compared to the number of incidents, it is odd to suggest that they worsen the climate, unless one were to suggest that there is a disproprtionate backlash over false reports and relative indifference over true reports.

 

[dvdjs]

That was on “Hate Crimes” but it merely alluded to “reports” not “crimes.”

I neglected to add the FBI link to my ealrier post.
They report crime data. The San Bernadino study was a source on the false reports.
For all of the angst over them, they are far fewer than the crimes.