Donald Trump’s Approval Rises Nine Points Among Black Voters During RNC

[Regular_Atheist]

Yes. All races commit crimes.

If course, but some more than others. You acknowledged this in your first post as a “gotcha” against BLM, but now you’re frightened to actually discuss it for some reason. I agree that BLM should address black-on-black crime and high crime rates. They should bring it back to the intergenerational poverty that the black working class is subject to, and the grassroots of BLM should divorce itself from the middle class activist types who are from a rival social class and want to make the movement about racial identity.

Why do black Americans kill each other at such a high rate? What do you think is the solution to this problem?

American blacks are the richest blacks in the world.

So there is a huge wealth disparity among American black people. Even more disgusting that the petty bourgeois should want to draw all black Americans together under the “Black Lives Matter’” movement, as if they share a common cause.

Perhaps we should look at the 50+ year progressive Democrat control over the major cities.

I agree. The Democratic politicians should be held accountable, as should the Republicans and the entirety of the capitalistic and democratic American system.

Why do you think electing Republicans into control of the major cities would help?

 

[JonNC]

Would that be like providing a higher amount of funding for African American colleges each year instead of less funding that the colleges have to come and beg for on an annual basis?

Or encouraging investment in disadvantaged communities and neighborhoods so there are jobs and services for people?

Both are programs that Trump has done.

How about criminal justice reform?

Do any of those three programs help the African American community?

You don’t understand. These are the sneaky things racists do to hurt blacks.

 

[JonNC]

If course, but some more than others. You acknowledged this in your first post as a “gotcha” against BLM, but now you’re frightened to actually discuss it for some reason.

There is no gotcha. BLM is a Marxist organization. They don’t care about black on black crime. That’s something they can stop with jack boots later once a Marxist State is in place.
Now, to be sure, this form of Marxism isn’t the same. Class has been replaced by race, but it is still all about power. Blacks dying in the inner cities is irrelevant.

I agree that BLM should address black-on-black crime and high crime rates. They should bring it back to the intergenerational poverty that the black working class is subject to

On this I completely agree. And who has been in charge of this for decades? The progressive left.

grassroots of BLM should divorce itself from the middle class activist types who are from a rival social class and want to make the movement about racial identity.

I agree.

I agree. The Democratic politicians should be held accountable, as should the Republicans and the entirety of the capitalistic and democratic American system.

Democrats should be held accountable because they have implemented and operated what Candace Owens calls these inner city plantations. Republicans because they still are not screaming about this from the tops of their lungs. If the republican and free market systems were actually permitted to operate in the inner cities, their lives would dramatically improve. That won’t happen with the left in charge.

Why do you think electing Republicans into control of the major cities would help?

Republicans? It depends. Electing constitutional conservatives who believe in individual rights would free people to improve their lives. School choice, where the focus is on cultural literacy. Crime prevention that encourages economic investment by entrepreneurs. And policing that, first, defends individual rights.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

Would that be like providing a higher amount of funding for African American colleges

That is all well and good - for those that live long enough and stay out of jail long enough to get into college. Investing in community developing would do just that.

Or encouraging investment in disadvantaged communities

How much “encouragement” are we talking about here?

How about criminal justice reform?

Yes, that would be nice. I’ll take a double order.

 

[PaulinVA]

They had the audio of that part of the interview. It was 55 seconds long. 50 seconds were of Woodward saying the two paragraphs from which the above quote is taken; 5 seconds of Trump’s reply, and then a dismissive characterization of what Trump went on to say.

My radar is beeping like crazy.

Unless he’s an idiot, Trump has a recording, too. So, where is it?

 

[F_Marturana]

He must have put it with the tapes he had of Comey. Lordy.

 

[Annie]

It’s not worth getting drawn into that kind of game.

 

[PaulinVA]

It’s not worth getting drawn into that kind of game.

Happy cake day!

 

[JonNC]

"Woodward discussed the Black Lives Matter protests and suggested to the President that people like the two of them – “White, privileged” – need to work to understand the anger and pain that Black people feel in the US. “You really drank the Kool-Aid, didn’t you? Just listen to you,” Trump responded,

This sounds rather measured to me. He would have been justified in saying , “Listen, Bob. If you want to submit yourself to this racist accusation, go ahead. If you have a history of abusing the rights of American Blacks, go ahead and take ownership of your own racism. But don’t speak for me because I found the accusation racist and untrue. “

 

[Dr_Meinheimer]

Statistically, I believe those using and answering landlines are senior citizens (IIRC). If so, the respondents will tend to en masse lean towards whichever candidate holds sway with that voting block. I think that is Biden this year.

 

[Zzyzx_Road]

That is all well and good - for those that live long enough and stay out of jail long enough to get into college. Investing in community developing would do just that.

Sure you don’t want to address the lack of fathers in the black communities?

Crime goes down much more when some of that police presence is replaced by community development.

The vast majority of blacks contradict you in that they don’t want their police funding reduced. But you think they don’t know what they’re on about? How patronizing.

Black Americans Want Police to Retain Local Presence

It's not so much the volume of interactions Black Americans have with the police that troubles them or differentiates them from other racial groups, but rather the quality of those interactions.

news.gallup.com

Sure they know there are problems and concerns. But they don’t appear to believe on the whole that reducing the funding of their police could be part of the solution.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

The vast majority of blacks contradict you in that they don’t want their police funding reduced.

That’s not what the poll says. The poll asks if they want police presence in their neighborhood. They were not asked if they wanted police to spend money on riot gear and military-style hardware. They were not asked if they wanted police to stop and frisk more people in their neighborhood. They were not asked if they want police to suspect members of their community of a crime and stop and question them just because they look black. In fact, what they wanted was community involvement. In fact, what they expressed was a desire for a different kind of police force - one that put more emphasis on community involvement, like the kind you get when a policeman walks freely among the people he is protecting. In other words, they wanted police reform - not more of the same.

Sure you don’t want to address the lack of fathers in the black communities?

Buying more riot management gear will do nothing to increase the number of fathers in black communities.

Sure they know there are problems and concerns. But they don’t appear to believe on the whole that reducing the funding of their police could be part of the solution.

All reasonable proposals I have seen for “defunding the police” do not result in a total reduction of funding, but they do result in reallocating some of the funding for the more community-oriented efforts, such as social work to manage the mentally ill.

 

[Victoria33]

Lacy Johnson, Ilhan Omar’s African American opponent for I believe CD5, Congressional District #5 has said he knows of no one who wants to defund the police and came out against such.

Ilhan Omar's GOP challenger blasts 'reckless' call to dismantle police department

Lacy Lee Johnson, who's running to unseat Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., called the Minneapolis city council 'reckless' for moving to dismantle the police after George Floyd's death.

www.foxnews.com

Ilhan Omar’s GOP challenger blasts ‘reckless’ call to dismantle police department​

By Sam Dorman | Fox News

…

“We have a reckless city council making reckless decisions about the safety and health of our community by passing this law to disband, stop funding the police. They are putting our community at risk,” Johnson told “Fox and Friends” on Tuesday.

His comments came after Omar and a majority of the city council members supported dismantling the police department.

And so on.

 

[Cathoholic]

Zzyzx_Road . . .

Sure you don’t want to address the lack of fathers in the black communities?

The point of the day. Obama even saw this as a problem (although unfortunately he relegated it to campaign talking points and never acted on it that I am aware of).

 

[Zzyzx_Road]

The point of the day. Obama even saw this as a problem (although unfortunately he relegated it to campaign talking points and never acted on it that I am aware of).

But some posters in this thread do not want to go there. See how neatly Leaf deflects away from that.

 

[Nepperhan]

Anyone with half a brain or more knows he is not a racist.

I just don’t charge people with that anymore – it is such an emotional accusation and who knows a person’s heart?. I just say if their actions are racist. Many of Trump’s actions have been racist.

" WASHINGTON – A narrow majority of Americans voters say President Donald Trump is a racist, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released Tuesday.

“Fifty-one percent of voters say they think Trump is a racist. Forty-five percent say they do not think so, and 5% don’t know.”

A majority of voters say President Donald Trump is a racist, Quinnipiac University poll finds

Fifty-one percent of voters answered "yes" when asked, "Do you think President Trump is a racist, or don't you think so?"

www.usatoday.com

 

[JonNC]

I just don’t charge people with that anymore – it is such an emotional accusation and who knows a person’s heart?. I just say if their actions are racist. Many of Trump’s actions have been racist.

He has been accused of it. Yes. But every four years that happens. In 2012 Biden said Romney would put blacks back in chains.
I have seen no racist actions by Trump.

WASHINGTON – A narrow majority of Americans voters say President Donald Trump is a racist, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released Tuesday.

With the DNC media pushing the leftist narrative, I’m not surprised.
I’m surprised it isn’t higher.

 

[Nepperhan]

I have seen no racist actions by Trump.

Even Republican Tim Scott said that Trump’s saying that woman Congressman should go back to where she came from was racist.

With the DNC media pushing the leftist narrative, I’m not surprised.
I’m surprised it isn’t higher.

Sometimes a cigar is a cigar.

 

[Annie]

If he is a racist, he is really bad at it: he helped a lot of black people by improving the economy (before the virus) and helped black people in various ways before he became president. Jesse Jackson even presented him with an award for one of the projects he was very involved in.