Donald Trump attacks Hillary Clinton as wins set stage for brutal election

[GaryTaylor]

Perfect example of Hillary racist rhetoric and slipping up -open mouth and insert foot.

nypost.com/2016/05/01/hillarys-off-the-reservation-remark-angers-native-americans/

Hillary Clinton drew ire from Native Americans on Saturday over her use of the phrase “off the reservation” in a CNN interview.

Activists pointed to the saying’s dark origins in late-19th-century laws restricting Native Americans to reservation lands.

“When reservations were first established, going #OffTheReservation meant you were going to be hunted down and killed,” Ruth Hopkins tweeted.

The social-media firestorm forced Clinton’s campaign to apologize — also on Twitter.

“Divisive language has no place in our politics,” tweeted Amanda Renteria, Clinton’s national political director. “Hillary Clinton meant no disrespect to Native Americans. She wants this election to be about lifting people up, not tearing them down.”

Clinton employed the idiom in reference to her husband Bill’s bad behavior in an interview Friday with CNN’s Jake Tapper.

“I have a lot of experience dealing with men who sometimes get off the reservation in the way they behave,” she said, dismissing a question about Donald Trump’s boorish attacks on the Democratic front-runner.

And her own agenda comes back to bite her.

 

[GaryTaylor]

I am stating outright (no implications) that anyone who gets upset that a woman would blame the other woman really does not understand women.

Yes, your wife will give you Hell in private. But most women, including your wife will say in public that the other woman was a conniving … fill in the word of your choice … and her husband was hoodwinked or taken advantage of.

Believe it or not, we women have some pride. We rarely admit in public that we married a total jerk.

I was not suggesting you had an affair and your wife abandoned you over it.

So your saying its quite normal for example the way Hillary handled Bills leaving the reservation?

“I have a lot of experience dealing with men who sometimes get off the reservation in the way they behave,”

frontpagemag.com/point/261340/hillary-clinton-shouts-down-rape-victim-daniel-greenfield

"The hypocrisy of so-called women who fight for women”

 

[Peter_J]

It just evidentiary that being black trumped being a smart and politically connected woman, at least once. I don’t think it will work again.

If Hillary were a man, she’d have gotten 5% of the vote (Trump, April 2016). What percentage would Obama have gotten if he were white?

 

[GaryTaylor]

If Hillary were a man, she’d have gotten 5% of the vote (Trump, April 2016). What percentage would Obama have gotten if he were white?

What percentage is grandma Hillary going to get of the youth vote or would she have gotten had she been black of the black vote?

 

[Monte_RCMS]

Maybe this is just me, but I would blame the woman having an affair with my husband before I would blame him as would most women. You men should be grateful for this.

Of course, this is because we can’t admit that we were stupid enough to believe in our husbands.

If you think I am wrong, ask you wife if she would divorce you if you had an affair (probably yes). Then ask her what she would do to the woman you had an affair with. Bet what Hillary Clinton did would pale in comparison.

Would you blame the women, if there were ten women? Or many more than that.

At what point would you acknowledge that the husband had “something” to do with it.

he lied under oath:

nytimes.com/1998/12/20/us/impeachment-overview-clinton-impeached-he-faces-senate-trial-2d-history-vows-job.html?pagewanted=all

 

[Lily_Bernans]

I voted for Obama 3x. (My state didn’t hold a 2012 Democratic primary.) I voted for Bernie. And I am voting for Hillary in Nov. But I agree Obama is a more eloquent speaker that she is. I think she will be a far better POTUS though than Donald J Trump or anyone the GOP is offering.

I agree, Obama is a very eloquent speaker, but Hillary is more fiery, I think, She knows how to rouse the troops, i.e., the Democratic Party. She will be a far better president than Trump or anyone the GOP has offered.

I am one of the ones who genuinely likes Obama and think he’s done much good for the party and the country. He’s been a very moral president, too. (I know, Catholics are going to rant about abortion, but running a country means more than just halting abortion, and the Republican Supreme Court who upheld Roe v. Wade pretty much has Obama backed into a corner on abortion.) I’ve posted an extensive list of his accomplishments several times previously.

 

[Monte_RCMS]

I agree, Obama is a very eloquent speaker, but Hillary is more fiery, I think, She knows how to rouse the troops, i.e., the Democratic Party. She will be a far better president than Trump or anyone the GOP has offered.

I am one of the ones who genuinely likes Obama and think he’s done much good for the party and the country. He’s been a very moral president, too. (I know, Catholics are going to rant about abortion, but running a country means more than just halting abortion, and the Republican Supreme Court who upheld Roe v. Wade pretty much has Obama backed into a corner on abortion.) I’ve posted an extensive list of his accomplishments several times previously.

Can you list Hillary’s accomplishments.

Not sure if setting the Middle East on fire counts.

 

[Lily_Bernans]

Perfect example of Hillary racist rhetoric and slipping up -open mouth and insert foot.

nypost.com/2016/05/01/hillarys-off-the-reservation-remark-angers-native-americans/

And her own agenda comes back to bite her.

People need to lighten up a bit. What if I was offended everytime someone used the expression “lily white.” Or what if African-Americans were offended when people said hair color was “black as coal?”

If Hillary’s remark is the ONLY things to criticize her on, then the GOP has nothing. Less than nothing. Might as well canonize Hillary now.

 

[Lily_Bernans]

Can you list Hillary’s accomplishments.

Not sure if setting the Middle East on fire counts.

Ive listed Hillary’s many, many accomplishments several times. I’m not going to do it again. Feel free to pull up my posts if you want.

I will list Trump’s:

Married three times, twice to women young enough to be his daughters.
Filed bankruptcy four times.
Has flip-flopped on every single issue.
Has no real plan for the US should he become president.
Is pro-abortion “with exceptions.”
Has alienated Hispanics, African-Americans, Muslim-Americans, the entire Muslim world, women, immigrants, the disabled, etc. Making fun of the disabled is awful, at least on my list.

 

[Lily_Bernans]

Obama certainly does have charisma and a youthful appeal that it is unlikely that Hillary would have had even in her youth.

Bill Clinton has that same kind of charm.

They say that on the personal level though, that Bill Clinton was kind of cold and Hillary was the warmer of the two.

Charm and charisma tell us nothing about a person’s character or the quality of his or her actual ideas and ideals, but in politics they are worth more than gold.

The main point would be to understand that being black did not win Obama the Democratic candidacy or the presidency, but it was in no way a detriment to his presidential run either. That was a significant milestone for American politics. The electorate saw in him something that they liked, much the same as they saw in Bill Clinton something that they

liked, and the colour of his skin was irrelevant to that choice.

He was not the fulfillment of MLK dream though. The content of his character was mostly irrelevant to that choice too, but I digress.

But Darryl, we’re not going to marry Hillary Clinton. No one’s looking for a charming romantic partner. We’re looking for someone to lead the country. That said, none of the GOP candidates has charisma, either. None of the candidates, on either side, really do. Maybe this time the US will really have to vote on the issues.

 

[GaryTaylor]

People need to lighten up a bit. What if I was offended everytime someone used the expression “lily white.” Or what if African-Americans were offended when people said hair color was “black as coal?”

If Hillary’s remark is the ONLY things to criticize her on, then the GOP has nothing. Less than nothing. Might as well canonize Hillary now.

That same thinking apply to Trump? Of course and at the end of the day that is the point. As a society and largely because of the left politics a casual comment is taken to racist extremes in pc polemics. And yes the problem with not being able to lighten up results in the type or rioting we are seeing. Much of this as you see isn’t intentional and is a form of ignorance.

That said while I agree with you and grace in yesterdays conversation I understand Sally and Hillary. But its still as Monte stated above at what point does the self admission and honesty arrive. And yes we are looking for this with Donald and quite obviously Hillary as we are suggesting.

 

[Lily_Bernans]

Everyone here is well aware of forum rules,you needn’t remind us.Also your assertions that any discussion re their dysfunctional marriage is assumption and idle gossip is nonsense.If they can’t keep it together for the public eye,I seriously doubt things are any better behind closed doors. They are a couple of power hungry individuals who have put up with each other for political expediency.Really no point in discussing this any further.

It is idle absolutely nonsense that there were “herds” of women. It’s also gossip that the Clintons just put up with each other for political expediency. Show me the proof of that. Which one said that’s true? Which one, of the ONLY two who really know confirmed that? If you can’t show me then it’s gossip.

Gossip is never good:

gotquestions.org/gossip-Bible.html

“In the book of Romans, Paul reveals the sinful nature and lawlessness of mankind, stating how God poured out His wrath on those who rejected His laws. Because they had turned away from God’s instruction and guidance, He gave them over to their sinful natures. The list of sins includes gossips and slanderers (Romans 1:29b-32). We see from this passage how serious the sin of gossip is and that it characterizes those who are under God’s wrath.”

 

[Lily_Bernans]

That same thinking apply to Trump? Of course and at the end of the day that is the point. As a society and largely because of the left politics a casual comment is taken to racist extremes in pc polemics. And yes the problem with not being able to lighten up results in the type or rioting we are seeing. Much of this as you see isn’t intentional and is a form of ignorance.

That said while I agree with you and grace in yesterdays conversation I understand Sally and Hillary. But its still as Monte stated above at what point does the self admission and honesty arrive. And yes we are looking for this with Donald and quite obviously Hillary as we are suggesting.

I, myself, believe that when adultery happens, both the man and the woman who are committing the sin are to blame. If I were an innocent wife, I’d be upset with both.

 

[Theo520]

Ive listed Hillary’s many, many accomplishments several times. I’m not going to do it again. Feel free to pull up my posts if you want.

I think you are deflecting, if you had them you could readily paste them to sing her praises.

A butt in seat is not an accomplishment BTW

 

[Lily_Bernans]

I think you are deflecting, if you had them you could readily paste them to sing her praises.

A butt in seat is not an accomplishment BTW

I have so many times that everyone here can read them. All you have to do is pull up my posts. Feel free. She’s had more than anyone I know.

 

[GaryTaylor]

I, myself, believe that when adultery happens, both the man and the woman who are committing the sin are to blame. If I were an innocent wife, I’d be upset with both.

Me too but its quite another dimension of self reflection and honesty when personal ideals of sexism and racism hit the public arena as a political figure. Most of us understood Bills issues and were not looking to hang him anymore then Kennedy. This is what people are tired of at least I think so, as I am, the immature trickery of hypocrisy and flyng off the handle and with common double standards.

Sheeze if you listen to the leftist you would think they are pacifists and love and peace etc. But look at the result of their handy work in constant rioting and the middle east. Same as I been saying with unity and divisiveness, where is the level headed honest communication?

 

[stinkcat_14]

So iow you’re saying every Democratic President will be vilified to the extent Obama has been.

Bill Clinton was impeached. Ever since the Clinton presidency there has been particularly nasty relations between the president and the opposing party. I am not sure we should be surprised that Obama was vilified. Of course, he was not an angel either. Obama was never denied anything he was owed. The issue is, we don’t owe presidents much and the opposing party is always ready to point that out.

 

[GaryTaylor]

Bill Clinton was impeached. Ever since the Clinton presidency there has been particularly nasty relations between the president and the opposing party. I am not sure we should be surprised that Obama was vilified. Of course, he was not an angel either. Obama was never denied anything he was owed. The issue is, we don’t owe presidents much and the opposing party is always ready to point that out.

And Hillary and Donald made stupid comments admitted etc. For sure Newt and Bill was a very heated interaction as was the 2008 campaign. And also the very ideal of activism can’t be ignored either or protest correctly understood. But the racist/sexist/terrorist pc conversation is resulting in unacceptable rioting and gang mentality on the verge of deadly violence which looms all the time. Its unacceptable imho that American leaders allow it to go on and escalate when we see the level of ignorance right here.

The idea of unifying the country is now more fleeting that ever but as I’m suggesting and we see in comparison its by large intentional and ignorance.

 

[Theo520]

I have so many times that everyone here can read them. All you have to do is pull up my posts. Feel free. She’s had more than anyone I know.

you have over 6 thousand posts, which we can’t wade through.

Instead of deflecting, post a link you your favorite personal expose on her brilliance.

 

[Mary_Gail_36]

Ive listed Hillary’s many, many accomplishments several times. I’m not going to do it again. Feel free to pull up my posts if you want.

I will list Trump’s:

Married three times, twice to women young enough to be his daughters.
Filed bankruptcy four times.
Has flip-flopped on every single issue.
Has no real plan for the US should he become president.
Is pro-abortion “with exceptions.”
Has alienated Hispanics, African-Americans, Muslim-Americans, the entire Muslim world, women, immigrants, the disabled, etc. Making fun of the disabled is awful, at least on my list.

Marla Maples is currently 52, so he really wasn’t significantly older. 17 years isn’t an awful amount.