Donald Trump attacks Hillary Clinton as wins set stage for brutal election

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gracepoole said:
Bernie is only 6 years older than Hillary – and she’s only 1 year younger than Trump. They’re all aging.

I don’t think anyone under 40 cares where he honeymooned – I’m pretty sure that they don’t assume anything negative about him as a result of where he took his bride.
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Wowzers. I sure hope no one assumes something negative about him because he honeymooned in Russia, years and years and years ago. :eek:

Sheesh.

#noneofourbusiness
 
Monte_RCMS said:
Another thing for Mr. Trump to do on Day One:

Immediately repeal the “Gun Free Zone Act”!!
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I don’t see how does any of the things on your long list of day one actions on day one. Most he probably can’t do at all. Probably none on day one.

Tax reform on day one? Reforming EPA regulations? Repealing a bunch of laws? He would be lucky to get those done in a year, let alone a day. I don’t think he can get them done at all, frankly.
 
TMC said:
I don’t see how does any of the things on your long list of day one actions on day one. Most he probably can’t do at all. Probably none on day one.

Tax reform on day one? Reforming EPA regulations? Repealing a bunch of laws? He would be lucky to get those done in a year, let alone a day. I don’t think he can get them done at all, frankly.
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I agree with you.
 
TMC said:
I don’t see how does any of the things on your long list of day one actions on day one. Most he probably can’t do at all. Probably none on day one.

Tax reform on day one? Reforming EPA regulations? Repealing a bunch of laws? He would be lucky to get those done in a year, let alone a day. I don’t think he can get them done at all, frankly.
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Getting rid of regulations is not difficult at all. Obama got rid of Bush’s regulations limiting abortion almost immediately. Stroke of a pen easy.

Changes in the “black letter law”, that’s something else.
 
gracepoole said:
I don’t think it’s that kind of “dirt” we’re likely to hear about Trump. Maybe instead something like he paid for women to have abortions – his refusal to answer questions about this is weird. And then of course there are the hours and hours of Howard Stern shows and the like that HRC staffers are probably being paid to pour over to find more Trump gems from the past. I hate to wish away a summer but I think I’d be somewhat happy to skip this one.
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Don’t know much about Howard Stern, was never my cup of tea, but didn’t this happen back when Bill was chasing Monica naked around the White House?

We don’t even have to wish with Hillary and Bill just repeat the facts. 😊
 
PRmerger said:
Wowzers. I sure hope no one assumes something negative about him because he honeymooned in Russia, years and years and years ago. :eek:

Sheesh.

#noneofourbusiness
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Well, if he wore a Trotsky beard at the time and those round glasses and a “worker cap” and held a red flag (and still has the flag hanging in his living room) I would say that’s negative. :rotfl:
 
Ridgerunner said:
Getting rid of regulations is not difficult at all. Obama got rid of Bush’s regulations limiting abortion almost immediately. Stroke of a pen easy.

Changes in the “black letter law”, that’s something else.
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Getting rid of some regulations can be easy if you don’t care what the result is. If you do care, it takes some time to figure out how to adjust regulations without creating unintended problems. But most regulations are more difficult to change than that. The president can order the EPA to change some of their regulations, for example, but public review and commentary is still required. And he can’t, as another example, simply cancel CAFE standards, which are mandated by statute. The EPA can adjust CAFE to a certain degree, but can’t simply do away with it.

Governing is more complex than most people seem to want to admit. It is not as simple as the President shouting “tax reform” or “simplify regulations” and having that happen.
 
TMC said:
Getting rid of some regulations can be easy if you don’t care what the result is. If you do care, it takes some time to figure out how to adjust regulations without creating unintended problems. But most regulations are more difficult to change than that. The president can order the EPA to change some of their regulations, for example, but public review and commentary is still required. And he can’t, as another example, simply cancel CAFE standards, which are mandated by statute. The EPA can adjust CAFE to a certain degree, but can’t simply do away with it.

Governing is more complex than most people seem to want to admit. It is not as simple as the President shouting “tax reform” or “simplify regulations” and having that happen.
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If you want to replace them, sure. But a stroke of the pen would return a lot of things to an entirely acceptable status quo ante. WOTUS is a good example of that. The HHS contraceptive and abortifacient mandate is another.
 
mary_bobo said:
Thank you for compiling this list. I am tired of hearing that no Republican president has done anything to stop some of these horrors.
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Thanks also - all of that highlights what has been undone since.
 
GaryTaylor said:
Don’t know much about Howard Stern, was never my cup of tea, but didn’t this happen back when Bill was chasing Monica naked around the White House?

We don’t even have to wish with Hillary and Bill just repeat the facts. 😊
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The majority of Americans were disgusted by the Starr investigations back then – pretty sure the number who care now about Bill’s affair with Monica is low.
 
gracepoole said:
Bernie is only 6 years older than Hillary – and she’s only 1 year younger than Trump. They’re all aging.

I don’t think anyone under 40 cares where he honeymooned – I’m pretty sure that they don’t assume anything negative about him as a result of where he took his bride.
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I would suggest that the Soviet regime was the moral equal of the Nazi regime, if somewhat more efficient in the mass murder of its citizenry. If a politician had taken advantage of the currency exchange rates offered by the Third Reich and the beautiful landscapes over the filled-in remains of the labor camps near Buchenwald to enjoy a honeymoon with his bride, I would feel the same way about him.

There were legitimate reasons to go there, and I certainly had to travel there because of my employment, but I suspect Bernie went there because it was the Mecca for American leftists, and he wanted to make his Hajj.
 
Arizona_Mike said:
I would suggest that the Soviet regime was the moral equal of the Nazi regime, if somewhat more efficient in the mass murder of its citizenry. If a politician had taken advantage of the currency exchange rates offered by the Third Reich and the beautiful landscapes over the filled-in remains of the labor camps near Buchenwald to enjoy a honeymoon with his bride, I would feel the same way about him.

There were legitimate reasons to go there, and I certainly had to travel there because of my employment, but I suspect Bernie went there because it was the Mecca for American leftists, and he wanted to make his Hajj.
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:rolleyes:
 
gracepoole said:
The majority of Americans were disgusted by the Starr investigations back then – pretty sure the number who care now about Bill’s affair with Monica is low.
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I suppose, then again I imagine depending how the rhetoric goes for the next 6-mths anything can be an issue again. To some degree it already has. Propaganda is at all time high levels also, so I suppose anything is expected. You know building campaigns as we see on racism, sexism and xenophobia by the liberals is quite a historic pattern of behavior if you ask me. I suppose one can make the same reverse claim. 🤷 No harm meant grace just saying.
 
GaryTaylor said:
I suppose, then again I imagine depending how the rhetoric goes for the next 6-mths anything can be an issue again. To some degree it already has. Propaganda is at all time high levels also, so I suppose anything is expected. You know building campaigns as we see on racism, sexism and xenophobia by the liberals is quite a historic pattern of behavior if you ask me. I suppose one can make the same reverse claim. 🤷 No harm meant grace just saying.
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Right - this is so true - it is just hyperbole, at a fever pitch of negativity. But that is where the left more or less hangs out these days. I cannot believe this country will buy that over and over and over and over…but frankly I could be overestimating the intelligence and capacity for resistance of the public.

Do you realize that 20% of the electorate (both parties) voted in the primaries. What an incredible minority of people. We have such huge numbers of disengaged basically clueless people - social media, bad education makes this so much worse. We are making history in this regard. (how dumb, disengaged can we be and still function/not function…I think we are about ready to find out)
 
gracepoole said:
The majority of Americans were disgusted by the Starr investigations back then – pretty sure the number who care now about Bill’s affair with Monica is low.
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I don’t care one bit. That’s between Bill and Hillary.
 
GaryTaylor said:
Sally go back and read the thread. The idea Obama is a great christian and the bin laden death as proof was the evidence is what the conversation stemmed from making them mutually exclusive and my point is clearly they are not. The crusader claim doesn’t originally come from the muslims it comes right from this type of loose thinking and talking. They were and are values we disagree with in killing and a double standard would be confirmed.
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I think Obama is a great Christian not for killing Bin Laden, but for trying to providing healthcare to all people. Their have been reasonable criticisms of Obamas healthcare system but Obama did make an effort and in some ways is helping to make positive differences in the US healthcare system. Healthcare should be totally free, that is the Christian way. We are also taught to forgive even our greatest enemy… your other post about what the Vatican said about Bin Ladens death was a good reminder to me. I appreciate that.

President Obama did I believe make some sort of one sentence comparison of the Crusaders to AQ/ISIL terrorists. Truth be told your going to find a # of Jewish and Muslim folks who dislike the Crusaders in general. Go on youtube and you will find its not just some(some of them respect the Crusaders)of our friends from the other 2 religions of Abraham who dislike the Crusaders…but many folks have negative views of the Crusaders.

Obama is just one of many folks who have made a negative remark at some point in their life about the Crusaders. At the same time Obama might have at another time praised the Crusaders, or at least praised maybe Richard the Lionheart.

Of course I side with the many Catholics and non Catholics who respect the good deeds of the Crusaders, and their were many good deeds. Certainly I think its wrong and offensive to compare the Crusaders to AQ/ISIL terrorists. I know for a fact leading and common Crusaders took up friendships with Muslims and Jews. Their is a romance in this regard to the middle ages.
 
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