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One has to read the article, I can’t say she is speaking of human beings.
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Donald Trump Becomes First U.S. President to Speak at March for Life
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Victoria33
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You know, if you actually read the article, I’m not sure she is explicit in speaking of human pregnancies.
Not clear enough to pass a judgement on.
Is this metaphor? It is a strange thing to say but it could be symbolism.
Not clear enough to pass a judgement on.
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dvdjs
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There is more, after this stranger talk about animals, referring to satanic pregnancies.
Really? I googled Catholic Prayers of Deliverance and found nothing at all like this.
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Jeanne_S
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I have a book of deliverance prayers for the laity it is very similar
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Cathoholic
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Look. I am not going to defend Paula White.
Trump can be loyal to old friends to a fault.
She probably should be “Jeremiah Wrighted” (Obama’s old spiritual advisor that was dismissed when people knew what he was preaching to Obama for many years).
But theologically speaking, first of all demons can’t have babies. (They are fallen angels. Evil spirits.)
Second of all, “miscarriages” would come from God and nature.
You know “miscarriages” and “abortions” are not the same thing. (Again. I am not defending Paula White here. Nor would I defend Robert Jeffress giving spiritual advice to President Trump either. But so far he hasn’t asked me.)
That being said, I would not support this woman as a spiritual advisor to me, if I were President Trump.
But President Trump also does not have the gifts of someone who has been in the Church either.
We as Catholics of course, are held to a higher standard.
To who much is given, much is required.
And in the Church that Christ founded, we have been given none other than Christ Himself totally and substantially (Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity).
But President Trump does not have these gifts available to him the same way you and I do. (Why not join me in prayer for his conversion to the fullness of Christianity? For his conversion to Catholicism?)
But if President Trump ever asks me, I will suggest to him someone I think would be better than Paula White.
Trump can be loyal to old friends to a fault.
She probably should be “Jeremiah Wrighted” (Obama’s old spiritual advisor that was dismissed when people knew what he was preaching to Obama for many years).
But theologically speaking, first of all demons can’t have babies. (They are fallen angels. Evil spirits.)
Second of all, “miscarriages” would come from God and nature.
You know “miscarriages” and “abortions” are not the same thing. (Again. I am not defending Paula White here. Nor would I defend Robert Jeffress giving spiritual advice to President Trump either. But so far he hasn’t asked me.)
That being said, I would not support this woman as a spiritual advisor to me, if I were President Trump.
But President Trump also does not have the gifts of someone who has been in the Church either.
We as Catholics of course, are held to a higher standard.
To who much is given, much is required.
And in the Church that Christ founded, we have been given none other than Christ Himself totally and substantially (Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity).
But President Trump does not have these gifts available to him the same way you and I do. (Why not join me in prayer for his conversion to the fullness of Christianity? For his conversion to Catholicism?)
I am amazed President Trump has as much going for him spiritually as he has.
But if President Trump ever asks me, I will suggest to him someone I think would be better than Paula White.
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In His Name and by the power of His Cross and Blood,I ask Jesus to bind any evil spirits,forces and powers of the earth,air,fire,or water,of the netherworld and the satanic forces of nature.By the power of the Holy Spirit and by His authority,I ask Jesus Christ to break any curses,hexes,spells and send them back to where they came from,if it be His Holy Will.
There is more to this particular prayer but this is the gist.
There is more to this particular prayer but this is the gist.
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If I were a pre-born baby, I would not care one bit if President Trump lied through his teeth every day of his life. As flawed a man as he is, and as crude as he can be at times, I would at least know he was trying to protect my life as opposed to the smooth talking, flawless, ever so proper Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, et al who wouldn’t mind me being pulled apart limb by limb.
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PoliticoIAm wanting to understand racism and the liberal democrat mind in some cases (and attempting to put President Trump in there which I refuse to abide by) . . .
PoliticoIAm. I am glad you are opposed to racism.
Would you say premeditatedly helping kill-off pre-born children of color is “racist”?
What would you say if the ANY administration were helping sneak minority girls across state borders here in the United States to help facilitate murder of their pre-born babies of color?
Would that be OK with you?
Or would or at least could you see that as racist?
And do you believe with God’s grace, people can change?
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PoliticoIAm acting as though he or she knows what President Trump thinks about “brown people”.
Trump has been working to PROTECT baby pre-born brown people from being murdered.
(Strange behavior from someone who allegedly has such a seething “hate” against “brown people”.)
All the Democrat Presidential candidates have been
working to FACILITATE the murder of (those) brown people
(and blacks, and yellows, and reds, and whites).
(Even stranger behavior from someone who allegedly has such a love for “brown people”!)
I disagree with your sizing up of President Trump.
And unless you reject all the Democrat unrestricted Pro-abort candidates (that’d be all of them PoliticoIAm),
I will disagree with your acceptance of them too.
You will have to ask racist liberal Democrats why they are racist. I have no idea.
PoliticoIAm. I am glad you are opposed to racism.
Would you say premeditatedly helping kill-off pre-born children of color is “racist”?
What would you say if the ANY administration were helping sneak minority girls across state borders here in the United States to help facilitate murder of their pre-born babies of color?
Would that be OK with you?
Or would or at least could you see that as racist?
And do you believe with God’s grace, people can change?
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PoliticoIAm acting as though he or she knows what President Trump thinks about “brown people”.
Ya know PoliticoIAm.
Trump has been working to PROTECT baby pre-born brown people from being murdered.
(Strange behavior from someone who allegedly has such a seething “hate” against “brown people”.)
All the Democrat Presidential candidates have been
working to FACILITATE the murder of (those) brown people
(and blacks, and yellows, and reds, and whites).
(Even stranger behavior from someone who allegedly has such a love for “brown people”!)
I disagree with your sizing up of President Trump.
And unless you reject all the Democrat unrestricted Pro-abort candidates (that’d be all of them PoliticoIAm),
I will disagree with your acceptance of them too.
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Victoria33
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Look at Matthew the Tax Collector, look at Paul who worked for the Roman Empire and he “might” have done some pretty bad things. So, none of us are perfect.
And the story is in “deadstate.org” or we might not even know she said this stuff? Come on!
So, I look at the front page and it seems to be pointing out what a number of Christians have done, Franklin Graham, Mike Huckabee, Osteen. So, is this a Christian attitude itself??
And the story is in “deadstate.org” or we might not even know she said this stuff? Come on!
So, I look at the front page and it seems to be pointing out what a number of Christians have done, Franklin Graham, Mike Huckabee, Osteen. So, is this a Christian attitude itself??
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Anything about miscarriage of Satanic pregnancies?
I am suprised by the reference to the powers of the earth, air, ire, and water. Does this book have nihil obstat/ imprimatur?
Srsly?
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Deliverence Prayets for the Laity
Over a hundred pages of prayers .
Another one : Lord Jesus Christ n Thy Name,I ask Thee to bind and silence all powers and forces that do not accept Thee as Lord and King,in the air,in the water,in the ground,the netherworld and nature and spiritual world.I ask Thee to bind all demonic action and demonic communication.Lord seal this whole place,all of us here and all of our intentions in the Precious Blood of Jesus Christ…
It goes on a bit more
Over a hundred pages of prayers .
Another one : Lord Jesus Christ n Thy Name,I ask Thee to bind and silence all powers and forces that do not accept Thee as Lord and King,in the air,in the water,in the ground,the netherworld and nature and spiritual world.I ask Thee to bind all demonic action and demonic communication.Lord seal this whole place,all of us here and all of our intentions in the Precious Blood of Jesus Christ…
It goes on a bit more
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Jeanne_S
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Nihil Obstat: Fr. Cliff Ermatinger BA,STL,Phl
Imprimatur: Most Reverend Samual J Aquila,STL
Archbishop of Denver
Satisfied?
Why would you have issues re that air water ,land?
St Francis has a beautiful prayer praising and thanking God in which he calls out all of these things.
You don’t believe the demonic works through all these as well?
Imprimatur: Most Reverend Samual J Aquila,STL
Archbishop of Denver
Satisfied?
Why would you have issues re that air water ,land?
St Francis has a beautiful prayer praising and thanking God in which he calls out all of these things.
You don’t believe the demonic works through all these as well?
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Yes. thanks.
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I am familiar with prayers of this type referring to spirits dwelling within matter, but the first prayer that you quoted sounded as though force and power was attributed to the matter itself. That is what caught my attention.Nihil Obstat: Fr. Cliff Ermatinger BA,STL,Phl
Imprimatur: Most Reverend Samual J Aquila,STL
Archbishop of Denver
Satisfied?
Why would you have issues re that air water ,land?
St Francis has a beautiful prayer praising and thanking God in which he calls out all of these things.
You don’t believe the demonic works through all these as well?
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That’s a peculiar prayer. I wonder what a satanic pregnancy is. Was she watching Rosemary ‘s baby?
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Jeanne_S
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Metaphorical is my guess.misscarriage is used as in a miscarriage of justice,etc.
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F_Marturana
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So she’s praying for miscarriage of justice?
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Jeanne_S
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No I was just using that as an example of how the word is used outside of pregnancy. I’m guessing it means a thwarting and failure of demonic plans
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PoliticoIAm
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Are you for real? I doi not know what you are talking about.
It seems as though you might have had your blinders on all these years if you haven’t heard nor have you not read all about Trump racism. It is a known fact.
I am not talking about abortion. I am talking about Trump.
It seems as though you might have had your blinders on all these years if you haven’t heard nor have you not read all about Trump racism. It is a known fact.
I am not talking about abortion. I am talking about Trump.
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PoliticoIAm . . .
What am I talking about?
Here it is again.
Trump has been working to PROTECT baby pre-born brown people from being murdered.
(Strange behavior from someone who allegedly has such a seething “hate” against “brown people”.)
All the Democrat Presidential candidates have been
working to FACILITATE the (at least legalized) murder of (those) brown people
(and blacks, and yellows, and reds, and whites).
(Even stranger behavior from someone who allegedly has such a love for “brown people”!)
I disagree with your sizing up of President Trump.
And unless you reject all the Democrat unrestricted Pro-abort candidates (that’d be all of them PoliticoIAm),
I will disagree with your acceptance of them too.
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PoliticoIAm . . .
Can people SUPPORT the premeditated murder of “brown people”
(unrestricted as long as they are not born yet)
and yet be considered PRO “brown people” in your world view?
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PoliticoIAm . . .
“Trump” is trying to SAVE those “brown people’s” lives.
The Democrats want unrestricted murder to be legal as long as those brown people are pre-born.
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I want to make sure YOU are in principle concerned about this virulent racist behavior and not mere politics. (That would be kind of trying to fool me if anyone tried that.)
Would you mind putting up three links from your posts where you condemned Democrats for such anti-brown policies here on CAF? I want to see how you apply your own principles.
Yep for real.
What am I talking about?
Here it is again.
Trump has been working to PROTECT baby pre-born brown people from being murdered.
(Strange behavior from someone who allegedly has such a seething “hate” against “brown people”.)
All the Democrat Presidential candidates have been
working to FACILITATE the (at least legalized) murder of (those) brown people
(and blacks, and yellows, and reds, and whites).
(Even stranger behavior from someone who allegedly has such a love for “brown people”!)
I disagree with your sizing up of President Trump.
And unless you reject all the Democrat unrestricted Pro-abort candidates (that’d be all of them PoliticoIAm),
I will disagree with your acceptance of them too.
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PoliticoIAm . . .
So can we prescind from murdering “brown people” before they are born?
Can people SUPPORT the premeditated murder of “brown people”
(unrestricted as long as they are not born yet)
and yet be considered PRO “brown people” in your world view?
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PoliticoIAm . . .
Yes but so what?
“Trump” is trying to SAVE those “brown people’s” lives.
The Democrats want unrestricted murder to be legal as long as those brown people are pre-born.
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I want to make sure YOU are in principle concerned about this virulent racist behavior and not mere politics. (That would be kind of trying to fool me if anyone tried that.)
Would you mind putting up three links from your posts where you condemned Democrats for such anti-brown policies here on CAF? I want to see how you apply your own principles.
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