Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S

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And the reason is because our forces have been forced to fight with hands tied, rediculous rules of engamemt and with leadership with no will or desire to actually combat the problem. Add to that the fact that “to war on terror” is like “to war on bleeding”. It is not the cause, it is the symptom. War on the problem, just like one would War on the ailment or wound causing the bleeding. That would stop the bleeding, just as a war on islam rather than “terror” would stop the terror.
 
Path_Finder said:
UN resettlement program has been disproportionate in allowing Christians into the US.
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Nothing wrong with that.

Ultimately, each country decides whom it will admit. Most prefer entrants who share a religion with the country they are entering, as religion is the one bit of culture that is international. The idea of admitting people on the basis of “diversity” is very new.

ICXC NIKA
 
Path_Finder said:
I don’t think one can single the United States out and this sounds like an unfair question at the least. Yet, that is whom was singled out, the US as if a narrative that is being pushed.

I can think of, btw, other countries one could ask the same question about but they do not in turn, seemed to be questioned in the same manner.
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You seem British. How has doing nothing gone for you, my good man?
 
Path_Finder said:
There has been a “war on terror” since 911.
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What about the first terrorist attack on the WTC February 6, 1993?

What about the U.S.S. Cole in 2000?

Those are two prominent examples of terrorists being brought to justice without the facade of ‘war on terror’. The Clinton administration (1993-2001) successfully prosecuted and convicted those terrorists and brought them to justice. Since we’re not at war with any countries, I wish the ‘war on terror’ could still be fought by the feds - Obama, not Bush, was the one who finally got bin Laden, and ISIS - evidence shows - formed as a direct result of the vacuum created by Bush’s foreign policy. How, pray tell, do we wage war against terrorists fighting us with missiles and firearms we gave them?

**What about white Muslims coming to the U.S. from white countries? (England, France, etc.) There are in fact white converts to Islam just as there are converts to Catholicism. ** Trump really hasn’t given much thought to his proposal.
 
You seem British. How has doing nothing worked out for you, my good man?
 
GEddie said:
Nothing wrong with that.

Ultimately, each country decides whom it will admit. Most prefer entrants who share a religion with the country they are entering, as religion is the one bit of culture that is international. The idea of admitting people on the basis of “diversity” is very new.

ICXC NIKA
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Actually Geddie,

What I mean is, is that it has been reported that in fact, Christians are low on the totem pole of refugees being let in from Syria.

christianpost.com/news/us-resettlement-policy-discriminates-against-syrian-christian-refugees-favors-muslims-150350/

This is a topic unto itself, this above may say “US resettlement policy” but I have heard of the “UN resettlement program” as well, as if maybe the UN pulls the strings per refugee camps.

Anyway, to state it again, it appears multiple sources will say the refugees that are coming to individual countries in many cases do not include a high percentage of Christians.
 
randomuser said:
What about the first terrorist attack on the WTC February 6, 1993?

What about the U.S.S. Cole in 2000?

Those are two prominent examples of terrorists being brought to justice without the facade of ‘war on terror’. The Clinton administration (1993-2001) successfully prosecuted and convicted those terrorists and brought them to justice. Since we’re not at war with any countries, I wish the ‘war on terror’ could still be fought by the feds - Obama, not Bush, was the one who finally got bin Laden, and ISIS - evidence shows - formed as a direct result of the vacuum created by Bush’s foreign policy. How, pray tell, do we wage war against terrorists fighting us with missiles and firearms we gave them?

**What about white Muslims coming to the U.S. from white countries? (England, France, etc.) There are in fact white converts to Islam just as there are converts to Catholicism. ** Trump really hasn’t given much thought to his proposal.
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Clinton said himself he could have gotten Bin Laden and didn’t, so it seems using this logic above, we can blame 911 on Clinton.
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Somehow bringing race into the equation about religion such as Islam seems to indicate the one who could have issues with race is not Trump.

I’d hardly think Catholicism is a race and not a religion.**
 
Israel must have a continual war against Terror. One is just splitting hairs in mentioning one event over another but 911 is as gigantic as an event as that event on December 7th, 1941 that saw the US enter World War II.
 
I believe one will see that the Taliban did allow Al Qaeda to operate camps and in fact, Bin Laden was caught in neighboring Pakistan.
 
I don’t understand why one is talking about Saudi Arabia.

Whom allowed the Jihadis to attack Coalition forces in Iraq?
Iraq asked Syria’s Assad to stop aiding ‘jihadists’: Former official - See more at: middleeasteye.net/news/iraq-asked-syrias-assad-not-aid-jihadists-former-official-1553468312#sthash.0bvFuTOU.dpuf
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As a matter of historic record, the Bush administration complained to Syria about its relationship to Jihadis in 2004, this is not made up from some fringe source but historic record.

And this famous General Souleimani is known to have been involved in the Iraq war;
noquarterusa.net/blog/78485/is-irans-qasem-soleimani-a-terrorist-no/

And Syria and Iran are both known for their relations with other countries shall we say as they have an alliance of sorts in Syria right now.

So, the evidence is on the table, we can blame the mess on Syria, Iran and perhaps countries that sponsor them as well.

Accusations are made about Saudi Arabia and Turkey, perhaps they can be made elsewhere as well.
 
Well, folks, it’s been nice discussing this but on to other things, have a good day.
 
Path_Finder said:
And? The foremost job of the government is to protect its citizens.
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But the notion that you can identify who is and who is not a Muslim is absolute nonsense. How can you bar Muslims from entering a country if you can’t even identify who they are? If you can’t actually carry something out then it is nothing but empty rhetoric. Empty rhetoric will do nothing to protect you, no matter how tough that rhetoric sounds.

How is this to be done? There are Muslims from all nations of the world. How are you going to identify them, let alone prevent them entering your country?

It’s nonsense, it cannot be done.

Tough sounding ideas that are impossible to implement will do nothing to protect you, nothing at all.
 
It’s led to multiple conflicts that have in turn led to ISIS. USA! USA!
 
Thomas_White said:
Yes, and the question has become “What do we do now?”
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Ironically, Trump is the only one who has expressed the correct answer, get out of the Middle East. Let the Russians get bogged down if that’s their decision.

Not sure if he’s changed his position since.

Jim
 
JimR-OCDS said:
Ironically, Trump is the only one who has expressed the correct answer, get out of the Middle East. Let the Russians get bogged down if that’s their decision.

Jim
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I have to agree The Donal is right on that one. 👍
 
ringil said:
And yet the absolutist nature of the poll speaks to the shallow and absolutist stance taken by Trump in that he believes we should be banning Muslims entry into the US.
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The united states can ban anyone they want to ban from immigrating into the united states. Lets go back to the laws for immigartion that were on the books 1963.
 
obviously permanently barring people from entering our country based on a large religious category is stupid and really wouldn’t work. but how can anyone say ISIS isn’t a type of islam that should be barred? there are limits to most of our civil liberties.

nobody has the right to freely practice a religion that murders innocent people and attempts to overthrow our way of life through violence. maybe what trump wants to sort these people out first, the wahhabists.

I think everyone might be overreacting to his statements and taking them in the most extrere understanding.
 
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