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lmachine
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His lawyer does not seem to be the sharpest tool in the shed.
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Sophie_Lawrence
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Apparently.
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k5thbeatle
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Yawn!!!
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Jig_Saw
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Of course, he should be, but thanks to his ignorance, we now know that the Trump campaign attempted to get damaging information on their opponent from someone that is closely tied to the Russian government. Cant be spun as ‘fake news’ put out by ‘haters’, Of course, some will try.
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sallybutler
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A case of affluenza
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queenofheartscv
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I can’t believe how many are jumping up for glee with this new “revelation”. This will be gone in a week just like all the other Russian collusion dirt they’ve been trying to pile on him. I wish you’d remember what happened last news cycle and not get your hopes up. Oh well, if you have no election wins I guess you need hope even if it’s false.
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Jig_Saw
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He admitted that he meant with an agent of the Russian government with the intention on getting dirt on his campaign opponent. That is now a fact and cannot be disputed.
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Vouthon
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The statute governing foreign interference in US election campaigns:
law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/110.20
** § 110.20 Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510).**
*** (b) Contributions and donations by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value,* or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.
(g)Solicitation, acceptance, or receipt of contributions and donations from foreign nationals. No person shall knowingly solicit, accept, or receive from a foreign national any contribution or donation prohibited by paragraphs (b) through (d) of this section. **.
The operative wording here is “other thing of value”: foreigners are banned from providing any kind of valuable contribution that would be the equivalent of a campaign donation, as in the form of a service (say the transmission of damaging information about Clinton as part of a Russian government effort to aid the Trump campaign), rather than by means of an exchange of goods.
It doesn’t appear to matter, for the purposes of the law, if the perpetrator actually attained valuable information. The illegal act would seem to be the intent to acquire the valuable intel -i.e. on Clinton - from a foreign source.
Might be worthwhile keeping a mental note of this statutory reference.
law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/110.20
** § 110.20 Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510).**
*** (b) Contributions and donations by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value,* or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.
(g)Solicitation, acceptance, or receipt of contributions and donations from foreign nationals. No person shall knowingly solicit, accept, or receive from a foreign national any contribution or donation prohibited by paragraphs (b) through (d) of this section. **.
The operative wording here is “other thing of value”: foreigners are banned from providing any kind of valuable contribution that would be the equivalent of a campaign donation, as in the form of a service (say the transmission of damaging information about Clinton as part of a Russian government effort to aid the Trump campaign), rather than by means of an exchange of goods.
It doesn’t appear to matter, for the purposes of the law, if the perpetrator actually attained valuable information. The illegal act would seem to be the intent to acquire the valuable intel -i.e. on Clinton - from a foreign source.
Might be worthwhile keeping a mental note of this statutory reference.
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Binto
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I think it was just Donald Jr meeting someone with no ties to the Russian govt on some interesting leads on HRC. That’s not illegal
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josie_L
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Does she have ties to the Russian government, if not why would this be considered a foreign government meddling in a country’s democratic process?
Moreover, do you believe accepting money from a foreign government during a presidential campaign illegal, because Hillary Clinton accepted money for her presidential campaign from the Saudis, and Bill, her husband, accepted money from the Chinese government, while campaigning for presidency?
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lmachine
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Vouthon
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The e-mail exchange itself blatantly suggests so, claiming that the “very high level and sensitive information [that she allegedly had to impart] is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr Trump,” and moreover she is described as: “The Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday”.
This is from the e-mail conversation published by Donald Trump Jr. himself.
meltzerboy
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The utter partisanship of the networks is so apparent, as is noted in the case of FOX’s silence on the email issue and then treating it as just another story, while weaving it into other political events which are more palatable for its base viewers. But MSNBC is just as partisan, in the opposite direction, by making it the prime news story and endlessly repeating the case against Trump, Jr. and Trump, almost to the exclusion of any other news item. If this whole affair were not so sad and serious, the polarity of the news coverage would be comical. I do have to chuckle at the last statement involving Alex Jones and HIS explanation for Trump, Jr.'s behavior, which is to protect against Russian spies. The sad part of this is there is an audience out there who believes this scenario.
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7_Sorrows
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is it just me or do the liberals in reality seem mentally off!
they have this unhealthy obssession with Russia every single day, but show a double standard by ignoring Hillary’s ties with the Ukraine. they are on a smear campaign against Trump and his family. Hillary had her reset button and seemed anxious to be friends with Russia and Obama had his moment of how he would have more
flexibility after the 2012 election.
if I were a democrat voter I would tell myself this party is not working for me in Washington. they are only interested in destroying a duly elected president.
I fear the democrat party in our country more than I fear Russia!
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7_Sorrows
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is it just me or do the liberals in reality seem mentally off!?
they have this unhealthy obssession with Russia every single day, but show a double standard by ignoring Hillary’s ties with the Ukraine. they are on a smear campaign against Trump and his family. Hillary had her reset button and seemed anxious to be friends with Russia and Obama had his moment of how he would have more
flexibility after the 2012 election.
if I were a democrat voter I would tell myself this party is not working for me in Washington. they are only interested in destroying a duly elected president.
I fear the democrat party in our country more than I fear Russia!
they have this unhealthy obssession with Russia every single day, but show a double standard by ignoring Hillary’s ties with the Ukraine. they are on a smear campaign against Trump and his family. Hillary had her reset button and seemed anxious to be friends with Russia and Obama had his moment of how he would have more
flexibility after the 2012 election.
if I were a democrat voter I would tell myself this party is not working for me in Washington. they are only interested in destroying a duly elected president.
I fear the democrat party in our country more than I fear Russia!
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7_Sorrows
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FOX has definitely been covering this as a top story all day.
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7_Sorrows
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so who do you think is leaking all these stories to the NYT besides Comey who already admitted to his leak possibly leaks?
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Vouthon
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I don’t have the faintest idea.
All I do know is that your federal law prohibits a U.S. citizen from solicting anything of value from a foreign national in the hopes of influencing an election.
And that’s a sticky wicky now, potentially, for the young Trump.
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7_Sorrows
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and this law does not apply to Hillary?
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Luke6_37
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Of course it applies to the Clintons. What’s your point?
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