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Crossbones said:
Oh, I don’t think that there is any doubt that suggesting a judge can’t oversee your case because he 'happens to be, we believe, a Mexican" is a racist comment. Since Trump made the comment, it suggests he might be a racist.
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Listen, do you have the actual text because its not that I don’t trust you, but I just think it might help me understand you.
 
Bones its one thing to say I seen a UFO to then suggest Reptile people are invading, you know what I’m saying?
 
So what is more racist-mentioning the ethnicity of a judge you are in a dispute with or supporting the killing $500,000 black an Latino children a year?
 
Mary_Gail_36 said:
Judge Curiel is a member of the San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association. It is the Bar Association of San Diegos Latinas and Latinos.

sdlrla.com/

Trump’s spokesperson got that mistaken with National Council of La Raza.

Prior to being a Federal Judge, he was an Assistant US Attorney, who prosecuted drug cartels.
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And what if someone was a member of the “San Diego white lawyer’s association”, with membership only open to whites, would you think it innocent?

Would you be nervous about a judge belonging to that organization if you were a black member of the NAACP?
 
GaryTaylor said:
What was he guilty of, I didn’t follow the propaganda. Are there criminal charges? Civil action outcome was what? This hard sell pitch is pretty common in these type of schools today?
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Are you defending the practice of encouraging people to max out their credit cards on a get rich quick scheme just on the basis that you think it is common? Isn’t that what we call moral relativism?
I hear this school had a 98 percent positive feedback rating from its creditors.
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A school has creditors? It is more relevant what the students thought of it.
This type of business while is might cast a shadow of doubt on moral ethics…
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It is the kind of ethics people do not appreciate in their President, regardless of how common it might be.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Hmmm. Seems this judge is a member of “La Raza”, a racist Mexican organization, some parts of which favor the Southwest U.S. being returned to Mexico. Trump’s lawyers might have tried to get him to recuse himself but were refused. I think that alone would make me very nervous about the judge.
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I’m a firefighter here in Texas. I’ve been in 2 departments. I’m also Hispanic. Having said that, both departments have a Hispanic firefighter association. And to not hurt the feelings of those here, like the Raza, were not an organization hoping to get the southwest back to Mexico. That’s just fear mongering.
 
GaryTaylor said:
Listen, do you have the actual text because its not that I don’t trust you, but I just think it might help me understand you.
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If you watched the news yesterday you could have seen and heard Trump and his “Mexican” comment for yourself. I don’t know if it makes Trump a racist, but it was clearly a very inappropriate thing for a candidate for any pubic office to say!
 
LeafByNiggle said:
Are you defending the practice of encouraging people to max out their credit cards on a get rich quick scheme just on the basis that you think it is common? Isn’t that what we call moral relativism?

A school has creditors? It is more relevant what the students thought of it.

It is the kind of ethics people do not appreciate in their President, regardless of how common it might be.
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Wait for it, Gary Taylor will call you a supporter of abortion on demand for having posted what you did. SMH
 
LeafByNiggle said:
Are you defending the practice of encouraging people to max out their credit cards on a get rich quick scheme just on the basis that you think it is common? Isn’t that what we call moral relativism?

A school has creditors? It is more relevant what the students thought of it.

It is the kind of ethics people do not appreciate in their President, regardless of how common it might be.
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So should we hold Public Universities to the same standards? Students can sue f they don’t get the desired results from their degrees? And they more than max out their credit cards-they end up 10s of thousands dollars in debt? Or does it become OK when Yale does t?
 
Ridgerunner said:
And what if someone was a member of the “San Diego white lawyer’s association”, with membership only open to whites, would you think it innocent?

Would you be nervous about a judge belonging to that organization if you were a black member of the NAACP?
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A more fitting analogy would be the “San Diego Italian American Lawyers Association” or the “San Diego Irish American Lawyers Association.” Being Latino just means that someone is of Latin American origin and is about national origin, culture and language, not about race. So Pope Francis who is from Argentina could have been a member of the La Raza Lawyers Association if he was a lawyer instead of pope even though he’s white and is of Italian ancestry.
 
estesbob said:
So should we hold Public Universities to the same standards? Students can sue f they don’t get the desired results from their degrees? And they more than max out their credit cards-they end up 10s of thousands dollars in debt? Or does it become OK when Yale does t?
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Everyone knows that a university, a legit university has their program set out for 4 years. 4 years for you the student to think, to meditate about your career path.

Trump and co. Charged 40k for 3 days, kinda fraudelent.
 
Ridgerunner said:
And what if someone was a member of the “San Diego white lawyer’s association”, with membership only open to whites, would you think it innocent?

Would you be nervous about a judge belonging to that organization if you were a black member of the NAACP?
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In my state there is an Italian-American lawyers association, an Asian American Bar Association, as well as a Catholic Lawyers Guild and a Jewish Lawyer’s Guild.

Should I worry about them too?

He’s a Federal Judge with a perfectly normal background.
Curiel was born in East Chicago, Indiana,[1][2] to parents who had immigrated into the United States from Mexico.[3][4] He received his Bachelor of Arts Degree from Indiana University in 1976 and his Juris Doctor from the Indiana University School of Law in 1979.[1][2][5] He served in private practice, first at James, James & Manning from 1979 to 1986 and then at Barbosa & Vera from 1986 to 1989.[2][5][6]
He was an Assistant United States Attorney in the Southern District of California from 1989 to 2002.[1][2][5] While in the Southern District, he served as Deputy Chief (1996-1999) and then Chief (1999-2002) of the Narcotics Enforcement Division.[1][2][5] During his tenure with the Narcotics Enforcement Division, Curiel prosecuted the Arellano Felix cartel in Tijuana, Mexico,[3][4] and was reportedly the subject of an assassination plot connected to the drug cartel.[7][8] He was an Assistant U.S. Attorney in the Central District of California from 2002 to 2006.[1][2][5]
On November 1, 2006, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger announced the appointment of Curiel to the bench of the Superior Court of San Diego in 2007, which is the position he held until his appointment to the federal bench.[5][9]
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chero23 said:
Everyone knows that a university, a legit university has their program set out for 4 years. 4 years for you the student to think, to meditate about your career path.

Trump and co. Charged 40k for 3 days, kinda fraudelent.
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Actually they didnt-the three day seminar was $1,600 .
 
Mary_Gail_36 said:
In my state there is an Italian-American lawyers association, an Asian American Bar Association, as well as a Catholic Lawyers Guild and a Jewish Lawyer’s Guild.

Should I worry about them too?

He’s a Federal Judge with a perfectly normal background.
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Good information Mary, but some here will be biased and blame this on Democrats, the liberal media, or a witch hunt on poor Mr. Trump 😦
 
estesbob said:
Actually they didnt-the three day seminar was $1,600 .
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You only pay more if you want to talk to one of Mr. Trump’s “certified millionaire mentors”. The $1,600 people only get to learn how to make thousands, not millions. Probably one of the first things they teach you as a Gold Elite member is that you shouldn’t have wasted $35,000 on a worthless course.
 
estesbob said:
So should we hold Public Universities to the same standards? Students can sue f they don’t get the desired results from their degrees? And they more than max out their credit cards-they end up 10s of thousands dollars in debt? Or does it become OK when Yale does t?
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When one graduates Yale, one has a degree.

When one graduates Trump university one has nothing.

Comparing a BA or BS from Yale to comparing a “non degree” from Trump university, is like comparing apples to imaginary oranges.

A good analogy would be purchasing a Cadillac and finding out the engine is a Pinto.
 
It is more relevant what the students thought of it
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The problem is you also need an objective view of the students. Basic point is there may be just as many people who swear the place saved their life and have yet to state man or God was the cause. 😃
If you watched the news yesterday you could have seen and heard Trump and his “Mexican” comment for yourself. I don’t know if it makes Trump a racist, but it was clearly a very inappropriate thing for a candidate for any pubic office to say!
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Yes the conflict of manners, but I pay that little mind opposed to raw emotion, its the final moral ethical as they say “multi issue” I focus on. I am disturbed by all the inappropriate language, gestures and policy, right back to affirmative action which imho is insultingly racist against white people.

debate.org/opinions/is-affirmative-action-racism
 
estesbob said:
So should we hold Public Universities to the same standards? Students can sue f they don’t get the desired results from their degrees? And they more than max out their credit cards-they end up 10s of thousands dollars in debt? Or does it become OK when Yale does t?
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Public Universities are held to a much higher standard. They do not high-pressure students into maxing out their credit cards. Students do get loans which have a much lower interest rate. And they have a much better track record of actually benefiting the students. They do not prey upon the vulnerable and the ignorant. They take some steps to qualify students. They do not need to high-pressure students since there are already plenty that apply. It is laughable to compare Trump University with these schools.
 
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