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I would say that Trump’s language is rude, crude, and generally socially unacceptable.

Basically, not meant for polite society.
 
sallybutler said:
I would say that Trump’s language is rude, crude, and generally socially unacceptable.

Basically, not meant for polite society.
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Agreed.

I would never want this man to be the face of America to the rest of the world. I am quite appalled that he garnered enough votes to be the face of the Republican Party to the rest of America.
 
sallybutler said:
I would say that Trump’s language is rude, crude, and generally socially unacceptable.

Basically, not meant for polite society.
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This is kind of laughable, because Hillary Clinton has a mouth that makes a sailor blush!
 
on_the_hill said:
Whether or not he’s sexist in the business world, I’m surprised he has a lot of support on CAF considering his history with women in his personal life: three marriages, affairs, divorces…I know we’re not electing a pope, but…
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According to this, and this was when other Republicans were still in the race, “Higher proportions of Catholics than evangelical Christians support Donald Trump”

"pollster John Zogby noted earlier this year that, in Trump versus Clinton polling, “Trump is ahead among Catholics—a group that Democrats have won every election since 1992.”

thefederalist.com/2016/03/08/why-do-catholics-support-an-unrepentant-strip-club-owner-for-president/
 
Ridgerunner said:
I don’t think Trump said it at all well, but I think he has reason to question the impartiality of this judge.

I’ll admit I’m probably spoiled by the fact that in my state judges are not supposed to engage in politics at all, other than their own re-election campaigns. They have to be very careful in avoiding even the appearance of it. That’s the rule so they wouldn’t be questioned as to politically-based biases. Also, in my state, you can disqualify one judge just because you want to, without giving any reason for it. You can’t do that with federal judges. If you want to disqualify one of them, you have to ask them to disqualify and state your reasons. If the federal judge doesn’t do it, you have criticized him without having any remedy at all.

It’s very common for judges who don’t want a biased jury to keep evidence sealed until trial. In this case, there was no good reason for the judge to release it to the public, but he did, despite Trump’s lawyers asking him not to do it. And he did it even though he, himself declared the testimony of the initiating plaintiff unworthy of belief.

Once Judge Curiel released all of the unproven allegations against Trump, that posed two problems for Trump. One is that it will provide campaign material for Hillary Clinton which will undoubtedly be used as if it was undeniably true. The bigger problem ultimately is that the political use of it will make it hard to find an unbiased jury that hasn’t seen any of the spin the Clinton campaign will put on the unproven allegations, including the ones the judge determined unworthy of belief.

There’s not much Trump can do about either problem other than discount it in some way and in advance. So, Trump, as he is wont to do, decided to get out in front of it. I’m not saying he did it well, but that’s what he does when he sees what’s ahead of him in the campaign.
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Trump’s attacks on the judge were inappropriate from a candidate for President - I am with Gingrich, Ryan et al. on that. The accusations are something a New York businessman would say about a judge in one of his litigation lawsuits, offline in the hallway preferably. In that context it is fine; and I will even go out on a limb and say that there may be a bias in Hispanics (justified to a certain degree) against Trump because of his extreme rhetoric on this issue. (But I also believe there are assimilated legal immigrant Hispanics who may be torn between Trump’s arguments and sympathy for the illegal immigrants - see both sides.) As for the Trump University lawsuit, I think Trump’s accusations against the judge are wacko.

I think the GOP needs a good cop / bad cop strategy with Trump - just like what happened here. Trump puts his foot in it - the rest of the party says, uh, no, we don’t believe that. Hopefully this will smooth out - or it may just work as is. Trump does his thing, the party does their thing. Diversity.
 
Mulligan2 said:
Agreed.

I would never want this man to be the face of America to the rest of the world. I am quite appalled that he garnered enough votes to be the face of the Republican Party to the rest of America.
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And isnt it sad that he is far superior to his Democrat opponents
 
Ridgerunner said:
I don’t think Trump said it at all well, but I think he has reason to question the impartiality of this judge.

I’ll admit I’m probably spoiled by the fact that in my state judges are not supposed to engage in politics at all, other than their own re-election campaigns. They have to be very careful in avoiding even the appearance of it. That’s the rule so they wouldn’t be questioned as to politically-based biases. Also, in my state, you can disqualify one judge just because you want to, without giving any reason for it. You can’t do that with federal judges. If you want to disqualify one of them, you have to ask them to disqualify and state your reasons. If the federal judge doesn’t do it, you have criticized him without having any remedy at all.

It’s very common for judges who don’t want a biased jury to keep evidence sealed until trial. In this case, there was no good reason for the judge to release it to the public, but he did, despite Trump’s lawyers asking him not to do it. And he did it even though he, himself declared the testimony of the initiating plaintiff unworthy of belief.

Once Judge Curiel released all of the unproven allegations against Trump, that posed two problems for Trump. One is that it will provide campaign material for Hillary Clinton which will undoubtedly be used as if it was undeniably true. The bigger problem ultimately is that the political use of it will make it hard to find an unbiased jury that hasn’t seen any of the spin the Clinton campaign will put on the unproven allegations, including the ones the judge determined unworthy of belief.

There’s not much Trump can do about either problem other than discount it in some way and in advance. So, Trump, as he is wont to do, decided to get out in front of it. I’m not saying he did it well, but that’s what he does when he sees what’s ahead of him in the campaign.
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I beg to differ. Texas in 2010 actually started an investigation against Trump U. which almost came to trial due to the fraudulent practices.

Trump U. left the state and the state dropped the investigation. Texas is a republican state, with republican AG that was in charge of the investigation.

texastribune.org/2016/06/03/brief-june-3-2016/
 
estesbob said:
And isnt it sad that he is far superior to his Democrat opponents
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How so?

Obama has a better reputation than Trump.

Gore has a better reputation that Trump.

Kerry who ran in 2004 has a better reputation than Trump.

Trust me, just as democrats have their bad apples, republicans have theirs.

But, unfortunately for us, of the 2 main choices we have, both are incompetent for the job.
 
chero23 said:
I beg to differ. Texas in 2010 actually started an investigation against Trump U. which almost came to trial due to the fraudulent practices.

Trump U. left the state and the state dropped the investigation. Texas is a republican state, with republican AG that was in charge of the investigation.

texastribune.org/2016/06/03/brief-june-3-2016/
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How does that justify the Judge releasing confidential trial documents to the press?
 
on_the_hill said:
Whether or not he’s sexist in the business world, I’m surprised he has a lot of support on CAF considering his history with women in his personal life: three marriages, affairs, divorces…I know we’re not electing a pope, but…
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This was posted on January of this year:

“Trump is ahead among Catholics – a group that Democrats have won every election since 1992.”

forbes.com/sites/johnzogby/2016/01/25/zogby-analytics-clinton-45-trump-45/#7ef9e41da226
 
Top Republican lawmakers are upset at what Trump has said about the judge.
reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-idUSKCN0YR0PH

Newt said some strong words yesterday, he stated that had a democrat been in Trump’s shoes, the right wing would have been all over him. Which is true, people talk about us in the country being so, PC, that the Trump supporters are now using the same card now.

How ironic.
 
Crossbones said:
It’s funny how some insist in continuing this right-wing lie that Hillary Clinton is somehow stealing the Democratic nomination without understanding the simple math that she needs only about 30% of the eligible delegates tomorrow to win the majority of those selected directly in elections.
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Exactly. She is ahead in popular votes and delegates (not including the super delegates) but they make it all a left wing conspiracy to make themselves feel good.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Is that anything like being called a “racist” if one is a Republican or supports Trump?
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Ahh, you see how if feels now, for those that do not support Trump, a liberal or an abortion on demand supporter.

Its kind of bad when the tide turns
 
estesbob said:
How does that justify the Judge releasing confidential trial documents to the press?
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And WHY? Trumps attorneys requested he not release the info, so … what purpose did that serve? The Judge is a natural born American but his parents were immigrants - that is the story of America - but the Judge did express, by belonging to a group of attorneys of Hispanic heritage who’s goal involved supporting the political opposition to Trumps, displaying a bias against the Defense. Whether the Judge is a dues paying member any longer because of the law requiring Federal Judges to not belong, it does not remove the suggestion that he could favor the Plaintiff. Even when a sense of wrong doing comes from a Federal Judge, the best defense is a strong offense. Right? (Of course if you are not strong enough, you could suffer the consequences!)

Anyway, the right and fair thing to do for the Judge is to recuse himself - no offense, none taken!
 
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utah_rose said:
This woman will never ever vote for Hillary or for the Democratic Party, and don’t be too sure if she won’t be in trouble because of her emails. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s an upset, like Biden, Bernie, or yes even Elizabeth Warren running.
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I agree 100%. The Dem platform is pro abortion. I also read that Bernie would like the
Platform to encourage a 1 child family like China’s!
 
grotto said:
And WHY? Trumps attorneys requested he not release the info, so … what purpose did that serve? The Judge is a natural born American but his parents were immigrants - that is the story of America - but the Judge did express, by belonging to a group of attorneys of Hispanic heritage who’s goal involved supporting the political opposition to Trumps, displaying a bias against the Defense. Whether the Judge is a dues paying member any longer because of the law requiring Federal Judges to not belong, it does not remove the suggestion that he could favor the Plaintiff. Even when a sense of wrong doing comes from a Federal Judge, the best defense is a strong offense. Right? (Of course if you are not strong enough, you could suffer the consequences!)

Anyway, the right and fair thing to do for the Judge is to recuse himself - no offense, none taken!
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But the facts are that Trump had this over his shoulder since 2 years ago. Why didn’t he ask for the judge to set himself from the case then?

He (trump) has also said a Muslim judge would treat him unfair. What will happen if, this judge steps aside and he gets an Asian judge, or an African American judge? Are we going to play, find the judge that Trump likes to go over his case?
 
_Abyssinia said:
This was posted on January of this year:

“Trump is ahead among Catholics – a group that Democrats have won every election since 1992.”

forbes.com/sites/johnzogby/2016/01/25/zogby-analytics-clinton-45-trump-45/#7ef9e41da226
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Yes, this is quite a weathervane too. I think there is a shift taking placing in the country - and not all of the huffing and puffing from the left, no matter how furious and fierce, will stop it. It’s a 2008 type election. It does all come down to the swing states, Rust Belt, etc. Everyone else may as well take a holiday.
 
chero23 said:
Exactly. She is ahead in popular votes and delegates (not including the super delegates) but they make it all a left wing conspiracy to make themselves feel good.
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Its not a conspiracy. The Democrat elite has things set up so they pick the nominee if the people dont vote the way they want to. Hillary will clinch the nominee tomorrow only because this elite committed to her before the first vote was cast.But as i said the Liberal elite has never been comfortable with the people making the choice-thats why they set things up the way they did. The rank and file of the Democrat Party accepts this-possibly because they prefer their “betters” tyo make such decisions.
 
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